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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby Skittles! on Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:04 pm

Ha, strokem doing the 'don't lynch me, you'll regret it!' trick. I would call it a scum tell except most scum tells aren't actually scum tells. I'm not going to give you the benefit of the doubt this time because I've seen that action too often which has actually turned out to be scum.

As for you squirrel, very nice post. Explained yourself well and has probably caused the shift to go to strokem. However, I'm going to leave my vote on you because I'm not totally convinced of your innocence. With the question on the cult, I've seen them have two members at the start of the game. Usually a recruiter but also a worthless follower.

That's all I can post cause I'm on my phone so can't do so much.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:02 pm

strokem1257 wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:Squirrl does seem to try to manipulate people, but chasing squirlls often ends bad. I will Vote Stokem for the reasons skittles said, but also because since then, he has not really said much to cofront it. A Townie, IMO would face an accusition head on, especialy if it is only a FOS and the accuser voted someone else, since that other person is first on the chopping block, and the Townie is not afraid of the cop investigating them that night, so they can afford to stay in the foreground of the descussion. Also, remember when I reilized I was sort of acting scummy by posting enough to not be lurking, but posting nothing of sustinance? He is doing exactly that.
He seems a bit like a newbie scum trying to figure out how to avoid the suspicion.

ok I am sorry I haven't been as active in this thread. I have been playing more risk and also some rt mafia games, so it is hard to keep up with everything on here along with stuff in real life. go ahead and vote me out. but you will be sorry you are trying to lynch a big asset for every one of my fellow townies. I don't feel I should have to divulge who I am as of yet, but if any of you are big into movies....

just remember sometimes that there are worse things out at night than vampires. and besides, What the hell makes you think you know about huntin' vampires?

I know skittles and everyone else will say I'm doing this to try to separate myself from you, but vote stroke. Stroke, your reply is less than satisfying to skittles' attack on you. Anyone can claim to hold a power role so your reply is pretty much worthless. If you want to get yourself out of this, you better give a pretty good defense of your actions. That is the only way anyone will believe you are a townie.

Let me stress that this is not an RT game. RT games are mainly for quick jokes and hardly anyone takes them seriously. In a long game like this, reason and logic are what matters. People don't just lynch in these games for the fun of it. RT games are fun and they help you nail the basics, but they require no strategy or thought whatsoever and are played in a completely different way.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby Skittles! on Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:48 am

Seconded with squirrel's assessment about the difference between non-rt and rt games. I was going to have a go before but i withheld from it.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby cena-rules on Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:34 am

unvote? vote stroke

seen the move too many time, 99% of the time it is done by scum. You also didnt answer most of the claims skittles threw your way
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby strokem1257 on Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:30 am

it seems everyone has their sights set on lynching me. go ahead if you really feel like it. I don't care. this is just a game so it really doesn't matter to me. and since it was the first mafia game i ever joined I was just trying to get a feel for how things were played. but now that it seems whatever I say everyone tries to twist it around back at me I have basically just said screw this game. maybe if I actually decide I would like to stay around and play mafia again, besides a few rts every now and again I will take the longer games more seriously. I got myself into some early suspicion by being too aggressive though having seen the movies that my character is based on I felt that he usually takes that kind of stances. He is a man of action. But that is besides the point now. As for trying to defend myself against all my accusers I am not going to even try going back and hitting every one of them. I am a vigilante townie, thats all I am going to say. If you don't like my response then go ahead and lynch me to see I am telling the truth. Oh and btw obviously noone took the time to look up my movie hints in one of my earlier posts or they would have seen why I acted like I have.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby pmchugh on Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:19 am

Deadline roughly 5 days from this post.

No lynch if a lynch is not reached by this time.

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strokem 3- (fuzzy, mr squirrel, cena)
walrus 1- (falko)
falko 1- (suspect)
masterchief 2- (naxus,stroke)
mr squirrel 1- (skittles)

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

SEAsportsfan and masterchief are being replaced.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby Skittles! on Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:30 am

pmchugh wrote:SEAsportsfan and masterchief are being replaced.

lolwut? I can understand masterchief, but SEA? Unless he stated that he wants to be replaced, you should always give a few days before you replace them.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby Skittles! on Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:35 am

strokem1257 wrote:it seems everyone has their sights set on lynching me. go ahead if you really feel like it. I don't care. this is just a game so it really doesn't matter to me. and since it was the first mafia game i ever joined I was just trying to get a feel for how things were played. but now that it seems whatever I say everyone tries to twist it around back at me I have basically just said screw this game. maybe if I actually decide I would like to stay around and play mafia again, besides a few rts every now and again I will take the longer games more seriously. I got myself into some early suspicion by being too aggressive though having seen the movies that my character is based on I felt that he usually takes that kind of stances. He is a man of action. But that is besides the point now. As for trying to defend myself against all my accusers I am not going to even try going back and hitting every one of them. I am a vigilante townie, thats all I am going to say. If you don't like my response then go ahead and lynch me to see I am telling the truth. Oh and btw obviously noone took the time to look up my movie hints in one of my earlier posts or they would have seen why I acted like I have.

I'm suggesting to everyone not to vote strokem now, unless they themselves wish to be seem as scum. With Strokem's role claim, it's good not to target him now. A newbie wouldn't know that, I don't think.

Anyway, strokem, when you feel under pressure you don't just give up. You need to defend yourself, as you did this time. That is good. You don't just go 'screw this game' and give up, because you'll never fully commit to mafia if that. And as for your movie hints, I'm sure I know what your role name is now. Central to vampire hunting.. And you don't have to actually take on what the character is like.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby Suspect101 on Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:42 am

sorry for not posting my normal 5 posts per page. I am on vacation and have to hang out with fiance's family :x
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby pmchugh on Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:48 am

Skittles! wrote:
pmchugh wrote:SEAsportsfan and masterchief are being replaced.

lolwut? I can understand masterchief, but SEA? Unless he stated that he wants to be replaced, you should always give a few days before you replace them.


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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby MeDeFe on Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:46 am

Town vigilante?

Possible, I'm not going to counterclaim that role.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby cowboyz on Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:10 pm

strokem1257 wrote:but if any of you are big into movies....

just remember sometimes that there are worse things out at night than vampires. and besides, What the hell makes you think you know about huntin' vampires?


Just googled strokes little hints and I guess he is some kind of Blade-like vampire hunter. So I'd say leave him be we want to see some dead vamps.

strokem1257 wrote:
Skittles! wrote:I love the counter scum tactic. fos squirrel and stokem. Trying to shift the attention by blaming each other.


I don't think you want to get in the middle of this. My personal vendetta to see the annihilation of all vamps does not keep me from removing all obstacles from my path. That includes mister colors-of-the-rainbow and your furry-tailed little friend too.


You can see that strokem is just playing his role by the way he speaks.

MeDeFe wrote:Town vigilante?

Possible, I'm not going to counterclaim that role.


Me either, I'd say that's what he is claiming and I won't counterclaim.

Mr. Squirrel wrote:I'm gonna vote CW for right now. Looking back, he was acting fairly strange, and then he starts pointing out his own scummy behavior. Maybe he's trying to just help the newbies or maybe he is trying to just confuse us. Either way, we don't have much else to go on at this time.
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I think you are trying to pin CW for his actions, which might have seemed scummy, but were obviously not, reason 1.a. why I took my vote off of him.

They aren't necessarily scummy, but they are pretty strange and I'd like him to explain himself.


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strokem1257 wrote:
captainwalrus wrote:Squirrl does seem to try to manipulate people, but chasing squirlls often ends bad. I will Vote Stokem for the reasons skittles said, but also because since then, he has not really said much to cofront it. A Townie, IMO would face an accusition head on, especialy if it is only a FOS and the accuser voted someone else, since that other person is first on the chopping block, and the Townie is not afraid of the cop investigating them that night, so they can afford to stay in the foreground of the descussion. Also, remember when I reilized I was sort of acting scummy by posting enough to not be lurking, but posting nothing of sustinance? He is doing exactly that.
He seems a bit like a newbie scum trying to figure out how to avoid the suspicion.

ok I am sorry I haven't been as active in this thread. I have been playing more risk and also some rt mafia games, so it is hard to keep up with everything on here along with stuff in real life. go ahead and vote me out. but you will be sorry you are trying to lynch a big asset for every one of my fellow townies. I don't feel I should have to divulge who I am as of yet, but if any of you are big into movies....

just remember sometimes that there are worse things out at night than vampires. and besides, What the hell makes you think you know about huntin' vampires?

I know skittles and everyone else will say I'm doing this to try to separate myself from you, but vote stroke. Stroke, your reply is less than satisfying to skittles' attack on you. Anyone can claim to hold a power role so your reply is pretty much worthless. If you want to get yourself out of this, you better give a pretty good defense of your actions. That is the only way anyone will believe you are a townie.

Let me stress that this is not an RT game. RT games are mainly for quick jokes and hardly anyone takes them seriously. In a long game like this, reason and logic are what matters. People don't just lynch in these games for the fun of it. RT games are fun and they help you nail the basics, but they require no strategy or thought whatsoever and are played in a completely different way.


FOS Squirrel. He's changed his vote a couple of times and seems dead set on voting Strokem. Strokem is also in the lead to be lynched with 3 votes. So a bit bandwagonee?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby captainwalrus on Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:06 pm

Unvote. It seems likely enough. This is a fair sized game, so a vig is a fine role.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby strokem1257 on Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:35 pm

pmchugh wrote:Deadline roughly 5 days from this post.

No lynch if a lynch is not reached by this time.

Vote Count!
strokem 3- (fuzzy, mr squirrel, cena)
walrus 1- (falko)
falko 1- (suspect)
masterchief 2- (naxus,stroke)
mr squirrel 1- (skittles)

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

SEAsportsfan and masterchief are being replaced.

since it seems mc is being replaced... UNVOTE
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:52 pm

MeDeFe wrote:Town vigilante?

Possible, I'm not going to counterclaim that role.

You posted just to tell us that? Seems kind of useless.
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strokem1257 wrote:it seems everyone has their sights set on lynching me. go ahead if you really feel like it. I don't care. this is just a game so it really doesn't matter to me. and since it was the first mafia game i ever joined I was just trying to get a feel for how things were played. but now that it seems whatever I say everyone tries to twist it around back at me I have basically just said screw this game. maybe if I actually decide I would like to stay around and play mafia again, besides a few rts every now and again I will take the longer games more seriously. I got myself into some early suspicion by being too aggressive though having seen the movies that my character is based on I felt that he usually takes that kind of stances. He is a man of action. But that is besides the point now. As for trying to defend myself against all my accusers I am not going to even try going back and hitting every one of them. I am a vigilante townie, thats all I am going to say. If you don't like my response then go ahead and lynch me to see I am telling the truth. Oh and btw obviously noone took the time to look up my movie hints in one of my earlier posts or they would have seen why I acted like I have.

I'm suggesting to everyone not to vote strokem now, unless they themselves wish to be seem as scum. With Strokem's role claim, it's good not to target him now. A newbie wouldn't know that, I don't think.

Anyway, strokem, when you feel under pressure you don't just give up. You need to defend yourself, as you did this time. That is good. You don't just go 'screw this game' and give up, because you'll never fully commit to mafia if that. And as for your movie hints, I'm sure I know what your role name is now. Central to vampire hunting.. And you don't have to actually take on what the character is like.

I'm still not 100% convinced. After all, if a vet made the kind of posts he did, he would be lynched already. But I'll unvote anyway. You had better live up to your claim stroke.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby MeDeFe on Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:51 am

Mr. Squirrel wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:Town vigilante?

Possible, I'm not going to counterclaim that role.

You posted just to tell us that? Seems kind of useless.

I posted to voice my opinion about Strokem's claim of being town vigilante, how is that useless? It shows that I'm still active, following the discussion, and will make sure I'm not suddenly struck by pmc's divine lightning.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby Stroop on Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:58 am

unvote... was I voting?

Stroke's claim seems plausible and I think Mr. Squirrel doesn't deserve a vote yet.

@stroke: getting a certain character as role does not mean that you have to talk/play like they would. As you see, it is not in the town's best interest (and you get caught if you're scum/third party).
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby e_i_pi on Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:00 am

Just a forewarning guys, I'm not going to "deadbeat" this mafia game, but there may be times I don't post for a bit - the amount of PMs I'm getting and having to reply to lately, with the whole DM thing and the sh!t hitting the fan site-wide is taking up a lot of my reading time.

As for the unfolding of events, I'm taking the FOS away from stroke. I'm no longer convinced he's scum, though I'm pretty sure he's not vanilla. I can't be sure about anyone right now, there's about 4-5 people I hae an eye on as scum, but there's not much to go on.

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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby Stroop on Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:30 am

e_i_pi wrote:As for the unfolding of events, I'm taking the FOS away from stroke. I'm no longer convinced he's scum, though I'm pretty sure he's not vanilla. I can't be sure about anyone right now, there's about 4-5 people I hae an eye on as scum, but there's not much to go on.

Share your suspicions. Nothing bad can come out of it, most of the time. We need all that we can take on day 1.

Vote No Lynch

This is probably the worst thing to do in this game. The vampires are likely to have some cult element, and if they recruit tonight we're just one step closer to defeat. We need to lynch someone for information, and maybe get lucky and hit a vamp.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby strokem1257 on Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:15 pm

I think we need to come up with a list of the scummiest people so far, lynch one of them, I can night kill another and then we can continue on from there. If we are really lucky we may even get two vamps out of the way early in the game. any suggestions guys?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby The Fuzzy Pengui on Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:23 pm

Based on stroke's claim I am going to unvote.

Back to the drawing board I guess...
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby Skittles! on Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:27 pm

The thing is, we don't have much time (4 days?). So we gotta think of someone to go after and then yeah.

However, I think I'll be targeted tonight :/
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby e_i_pi on Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:45 pm

Stroop wrote:
e_i_pi wrote:As for the unfolding of events, I'm taking the FOS away from stroke. I'm no longer convinced he's scum, though I'm pretty sure he's not vanilla. I can't be sure about anyone right now, there's about 4-5 people I hae an eye on as scum, but there's not much to go on.

Share your suspicions. Nothing bad can come out of it, most of the time. We need all that we can take on day 1.

Ugh, okay, my raw suspicions are captainwalrus, masterchief, MeDeFe, and I'm a little suspect of Skittles but I wouldn't attest to it. They are very raw suspicions just based on how often they post, what they post, and how often they vote. I couldn't make a convincing case against any of them

Vote No Lynch

This is probably the worst thing to do in this game. The vampires are likely to have some cult element, and if they recruit tonight we're just one step closer to defeat. We need to lynch someone for information, and maybe get lucky and hit a vamp.

I've heard that from people before, that No Lynch is the worst thing, never understood it. If we lynch a townie, and the vamps kill someone, we're down two. If we don't lynch, we're down 1. Sure, it's not aggressive play, but it's not risky either.
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby captainwalrus on Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:52 pm

e_i_pi wrote:I've heard that from people before, that No Lynch is the worst thing, never understood it. If we lynch a townie, and the vamps kill someone, we're down two. If we don't lynch, we're down 1. Sure, it's not aggressive play, but it's not risky either.


I used to agree, untill voting no lynch almost got me lynched a few times.

Skittles! wrote:However, I think I'll be targeted tonight :/

Why?
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Re: Vampire Mafia for begginers- Day 1.

Postby Skittles! on Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:56 pm

captainwalrus wrote:
Skittles! wrote:However, I think I'll be targeted tonight :/

Why?

cause i think i've proved that I can come up with a concise argument enough to convince people to lynch suspects.
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