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Postby Zackismet on Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:52 pm

Can someone help me decide to report this guy or not? I DON'T WANT TO WASTE THE HUNTERS' TIME- THAT'S WHY THIS ISN'T IN THE "ABUSE" FORUM, PLEASE DO NOT MOVE IT.

There are many people that i find and suspect, but i never report tham, either becuase they're not one, or they are damn good at pretending not to be one... The reason i don't report them is becuase the hunters already have a crapload of false accusations being made.

Anyway, this one guy- Hunter_zr, i want to report him so badly!!! (with stefanelemir, marco88, pereca, and cop.zoro),

If you look at just his games played with them- it seems obvious. But review the text and it gets VERY complicated... In one game he played with pereca- Pereca knew exactly what he was doing- he even told the other player how to choose and trade in 3 cards. However, in a later game with Pereca, Hunter acts like he doesn't even know him!! Even saying newbs ruin the game and so on. That's not the odd part- it's that Pereca acted like a complete moron in that game!!!

Then take Hunter's games with stefanelemir. He seems to nearly every one! However, in the logs Stef doesn't seem to favor Hunter very much, if at all.

Now for hunter's games with cop.zoro, the same deal. Hunter and stef have proven to be very chatty and friendly in some games, but in one game with cop.zoro AND stefanelemir, nobody says a word! But again, Hunter lost that game!!!!!!!! However, after he was eliminated, the other two players just deadbeat it out....

Speaking of deadbeating... Hunter and those other players always miss turn at the same time! except one... Cop missed all his turns and hunter always played... And Hunter always takes his turn at the same time as the others- but they never come within 2 seconds of eachother- and that's only when they click a button like "end turn" all attacks and fortifications are at least 20 seconds apart.

Another player- marco88, acts completely ignorant in a game with Hunter as well, and hunter treats him the same way as he treated Pereca when he was ACTING dumb.

anyway- i don't want to report him because so far i've never been wrong about a multi (well... one time all i did was get 2 names banned from playering with eachother, they weren't busted.... i guess that counts as being wrong) and i don't want to put another like that on my record- and as before- don't want to waste the Hunters' time since morons already fill that forum with crap.

so can anyone help me out?
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Postby zarvinny on Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:27 pm

report dem :!:
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Postby hermanitor on Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:53 pm

I agree with you. I have just been beaten by him today.
It left a foul taste in my mouth...just checked him out and yes he does appear under a number of aliases from serbia....

cop zoro
stefanelemir
pereca
marco88

All new users who have suddenly stopped playing the game after losing a few against mr hunter_zr superior skills.
I have asked some of the people I play with to check him out.
I think I will be reporting him shortly.
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Postby gerry22 on Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:01 pm

I have said this before and wouldn't be short of examples. The main reason people don't report something when they should is because someone who submits a negative or what they think might be a stupid post generally just get abuse, laughed at or a smart ass reply for their effort, it's a great deterent.

I must add this. A smart ass reply is only bad if it's negatve towards the person who posted.
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Re: I can't decide about this guy....

Postby hunter_zr on Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:34 pm

Zackismet wrote:Can someone help me decide to report this guy or not? I DON'T WANT TO WASTE THE HUNTERS' TIME- THAT'S WHY THIS ISN'T IN THE "ABUSE" FORUM, PLEASE DO NOT MOVE IT.

There are many people that i find and suspect, but i never report tham, either becuase they're not one, or they are damn good at pretending not to be one... The reason i don't report them is becuase the hunters already have a crapload of false accusations being made.

Anyway, this one guy- Hunter_zr, i want to report him so badly!!! (with stefanelemir, marco88, pereca, and cop.zoro),

If you look at just his games played with them- it seems obvious. But review the text and it gets VERY complicated... In one game he played with pereca- Pereca knew exactly what he was doing- he even told the other player how to choose and trade in 3 cards. However, in a later game with Pereca, Hunter acts like he doesn't even know him!! Even saying newbs ruin the game and so on. That's not the odd part- it's that Pereca acted like a complete moron in that game!!!

Then take Hunter's games with stefanelemir. He seems to nearly every one! However, in the logs Stef doesn't seem to favor Hunter very much, if at all.

Now for hunter's games with cop.zoro, the same deal. Hunter and stef have proven to be very chatty and friendly in some games, but in one game with cop.zoro AND stefanelemir, nobody says a word! But again, Hunter lost that game!!!!!!!! However, after he was eliminated, the other two players just deadbeat it out....

Speaking of deadbeating... Hunter and those other players always miss turn at the same time! except one... Cop missed all his turns and hunter always played... And Hunter always takes his turn at the same time as the others- but they never come within 2 seconds of eachother- and that's only when they click a button like "end turn" all attacks and fortifications are at least 20 seconds apart.

Another player- marco88, acts completely ignorant in a game with Hunter as well, and hunter treats him the same way as he treated Pereca when he was ACTING dumb.

anyway- i don't want to report him because so far i've never been wrong about a multi (well... one time all i did was get 2 names banned from playering with eachother, they weren't busted.... i guess that counts as being wrong) and i don't want to put another like that on my record- and as before- don't want to waste the Hunters' time since morons already fill that forum with crap.

so can anyone help me out?


I am going to comment the things you said... Hunter_zr is me Nikola Stankov, Stefanelemir is my friend from school Stefan Saravolac, cop.zoro is my another friend Zoran Pajic, Marco88 is my friend Marko Rajic from Petnica Science Center and he is from Belgrade. I am from Zrenjanin, and Stefan and Zoran live near Zrenjanin... Pereca is my sister Jelena Stankov... WE ARE NOT CHEATERS!!!! .... Stefan and I started to fight against each other... then Zoran joined and then Marko... Look for Miks... he is also our friend. He is Miroslav Stojkovic and he also lives near Zrenjanin.... As I sead, we are not cheaters, we play against eachother and the only reason I am winning is because my friends have some problem with organisation of theyr troops... I am going to send this message to other forum topics because I don't have time to type on every topic diferent message... Forgive me for my bad English and spelling mistakes... My English is Bad...
Next... for the missed turns... We here in Serbia have dail-up internet and it is very slow and it costs a lot of money in Serbia... This week I was seack... i have got the flu.... Zoran, Stefan and Miroslav have been in school and they had not payed attention to the gaims because they had to study... I was at home, and I had much spair time, so I contacted Marco who was lucky for me also out of school and hade some time to play with me... Marco is a dumbass... he doesn't know a thing about computers, and less to play this kind of games... So he made some stupid attack and made more damnage then good to the games...
I can prove it... If anyone likes to learn Serbian, i can upload a log form googletalk where Stefan, Zoran and I comunicate during our games on Serbian because our English sucks ass....
As I said... we are not cheaters... we don't want to bring anyone trouble... we are 4 or 5 if Miks is incluaded highschool students who wants to fight amongst OURSELFS!!!!!.... but in case where onlu Stefan and I are playing, we are not a team... in school we don't eaven talk to eachother very much... We are rivals who want to destroy each other, but there is allways somone else to ruin our game, so we play everyone to him self.... I have no attantion of getting my friends and my sister in some kind of danger because I am the best from my little brotherhood... Stefan, Jelena, Miroslav, Zoran and Marko are not good enough to beat me down.... I love Risk and I loved it form my 4th birthday when I got my first Risk set... I love strategy games and I only want to say... you are makeing a misstake by thinking that we are a multi logged cheaters... because we are not!...
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Postby hunter_zr on Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:57 pm

As i said to Herminator and Zackismet...
I have and i don't want anything to hide, so if you want anything to ask me, just ask me... ok?
My friends and me only want to play... nothing else... The game would be batter if it chould be a fight only amongst ourselves... but it manycases it hasen't been... I'm sorry for makeing a bad impression of myself, my friends and Serbia...
If anyone want's to ask me or myfirends anything... just send us a pm because Stefan, Zoran, Jelena and Miroslav don't visit the forum...
Marko alerted me about this missunderstanding, and because I am the leader and I am the president of my class 4-11 of Zrenjanin high school I took the responcability of making this missunderstanding straight...
I must apologise for my English again...
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Postby D.IsleRealBrown on Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:45 pm

hunter_zr wrote:Forgive me for my bad English


Your English is better than 90% of the people posting in this forum.

However, if you're playing standard or terminator public games together, I have a problem with that. If you want to play against your friends, start a private game. Otherwise only join team public games with your friends and family, this way you'll avoid a lot of the confusion and speculation you see here.
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Postby AAFitz on Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:51 pm

hunter...i suggest you guys play private games...it just eliminates suspicion and grief

im not saying you cant play together and not play fairly, but other people wont view it that way, and it ruins their game, and ultimately yours

play privates with your friends, and team games...once youve gained some experience and people know you, you wont get resistance...but until then, you will be questioned a lot...

if you truly just want to have fun, then private games are the way to go...or singles without them....

having a close friend in a singles game, can only make it harder, because not only can you not cheat, you have to make it look like you are not cheating....or go to callouts and ask people to join your games given the situation

and dont worry about your english my russian is pretty bad, nyet(that means thank you right)

in any case..they will block you if you are suspicious anyways...so agree to only play privates, or your fun may be over anyways...

youre obviously an enthusiast, and a welcome member, but cheaters are not welcome, and ruin it for everyone
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Postby D.IsleRealBrown on Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:59 pm

AAFitz wrote:What D. said, but longer.
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Postby hunter_zr on Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:33 pm

D.IsleRealBrown wrote:
hunter_zr wrote:Forgive me for my bad English


Your English is better than 90% of the people posting in this forum.

However, if you're playing standard or terminator public games together, I have a problem with that. If you want to play against your friends, start a private game. Otherwise only join team public games with your friends and family, this way you'll avoid a lot of the confusion and speculation you see here.
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hunter...i suggest you guys play private games...it just eliminates suspicion and grief

im not saying you cant play together and not play fairly, but other people wont view it that way, and it ruins their game, and ultimately yours

play privates with your friends, and team games...once youve gained some experience and people know you, you wont get resistance...but until then, you will be questioned a lot...

if you truly just want to have fun, then private games are the way to go...or singles without them....

having a close friend in a singles game, can only make it harder, because not only can you not cheat, you have to make it look like you are not cheating....or go to callouts and ask people to join your games given the situation

and dont worry about your english my russian is pretty bad, nyet(that means thank you right)

in any case..they will block you if you are suspicious anyways...so agree to only play privates, or your fun may be over anyways...

youre obviously an enthusiast, and a welcome member, but cheaters are not welcome, and ruin it for everyone


thanks for the advices...
but for private games I need a premium Membership(if I am not mistakeing)... But unfortunately for me and all my people, the coutry where we live, Serbia is an unhappy, primitiv, poor and bad country to live in... sh*t is here happening everiday... in time you get used to it... And so because of all those things... stuff like e-shopping is very very bad... if there is any?... I even don't have a credit card to buy online... I know my friends very well and I am sure that they don't have a credit card... :(((
So... I am sure and I hope that we will find a way to somehow get along with all of you and then everyone will be happy...

But If not... or if there is anymore problem.. (I don't like this bann scenario, it is not honerable)... bann all of us freely and without a dout... as I said... we are here only for fun...

wish you all the best people...

P.S. a little tip... you can find us only on Friday's or Saturday's.... On other days (not Sunday) we have school and we concentrate our time to school... I came this week because I was ill and hade extra time...
By the way... I will probably came to finish game 204642... and as for my friends... I saw that Stefan started some new games and I dought that he will finish them... but... I don't know, maybe he will... He needs some points for a remach next weekend because he is not pleased because of kicking his ass every time...
So... see ya peopole on Friday's and Saturday's
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Postby AAFitz on Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:39 pm

well id suggest you coordinate and join at the same time so no one else gets into your games....it unfortunately is the only way

enjoy the game, and dont worry about not being able to pay the premium...its set up for free for a reason...but you are going to have to be more careful
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Postby D.IsleRealBrown on Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:40 pm

Hmmmm, I see.

What if you organize real-time games with your friends on the weekends?

If you don't take your turns during the week you'll just end up being put on ignore by everyone at the site after a while. No one likes deadbeats here, regardless of their problems.

Good luck to you and yours though.

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Postby hunter_zr on Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:00 pm

Yes.... we organise a real-time games... we comunicate to eachother through googletalk... But when Zoran doesnt want to play... There is no map for 2 players... I create the game... Stefan joins and we wait for the 3rd person...
THEN WE DON'T TEAM UP AND DESTROY THE 3RD PERSON SO WE CHOULD FIGHT EACHOTHER.... WE PLAY A NORAMAL WAR!!!....
The only reason we got deadbeats was because we were new and didn't know what it means... We started a 6game map and I didnt realised that we can continue.... That was on 20.januar... the 1rst day we joined..
And there is a game where Zoran killed me, Stefan and him decided to start a new game because it is not interesting without me... So that game stayed not finished... And I think 3rd game... Stefan, me and gamecockfreak200... We waited for gamecockfreak200 long time and then decided to start our own game.... Tomorow and day after that... Stefan never came back... I came because i was sick and finished the game....
I promice to be more carefull with playing games with my friends
Marko likes it and I think that the "love triangle" will be Stefan, Marko and Me... and Zoran....
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Postby AAFitz on Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:46 am

hunter_zr wrote:Marko likes it and I think that the "love triangle" will be Stefan, Marko and Me... and Zoran....


good luck, but you should really delete this line...
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