Counter-Terrorism Mafia MAFIA WIN! LSU AND SPIESR KILLED!

[Suspect101]

Now I feel a little compelled to claim, as I'm pretty sure falko isn't scum.

I am a commuter. I commuted last night. Nothing happened.

I have a few things bothering me:

1) why would there be a commuter in a Terrorist Mafia game. This seems like a really odd role.
2) It was odd that you voted Thezz on Thursday then did not speak again until Monday, right before Thezz blew up PMC. I know you had a 24 hour ban, but that leaves 72 hours with no post, and it is odd that you posted with such little time before Thezz killed himself. Almost like you knew he was going to do it, then posted how scummy he looked to clear your name.

Lets assume:

There are 10 people.

Thezz is confirmed terrorist.
PMC is confirmed town.
Suspect101 town politician
Falkomagno town (pretty much confirmed)
jnd94 role blocker (unless he and Falkomango are scum buddies, which I doubt, but could be)

That means there is 1 more scum, a governor, a protector/dr, and some kind of investigator. In my mind.
If we assume that you are the commuter, Simon, that means these other roles have to be as such:

Stroop
sam_levi_11
Speiser
LSU Tiger Josh

FOS Simon because I do not think there is a commuter in this game, there maybe other reasons for claiming that role, which is why you are not getting a vote from me. But after rereading I would like to pressure someone else, who I feel has shown massive signs of scummage, once I get some opinions on what have written.

[sam_levi_11]

if it would help narrow down the whole thing i could claim.

[spiesr]

You know, looking at the setup is seems like are chances of having the all important doc or cop aren't that good. Especially if Falkomagno is town and jnd94 is a role blocker. Unless suspect is a mafia politician or the governor is mafia there simply isn't a lot of room in the setup...

if it would help narrow down the whole thing i could claim.

I don't know, it generally isn't the best idea to drop a bunch of unprovoked claims, but everyone else seems to be into it, so do whatever you think is best.

[jnd94]

unvote

This kinda of took out most of our options.....

[Simon Viavant]

I claimed because it looked like falko was going to be lynched if I didn't.
(He'd probably still be lynched if I hadn't claimed and/or he hadn't quoted the mod)

If I was scum why would I call attention to myself?
The only concievable reason for that would be trying to save my scumbuddy falko, and I think we all agreed that he's town.
And don't forget I was the first one to accuse thez and call attention to him when everyone was focused on pmc.

Pretty much every time a bandwagon is started today it's been for some petty reason.

Now it appears I'm the next scum target.

Back on topic...
There are one, possibly even two scum still left alive.
If I look at the voting trends regarding the avove mentioned bandwagons and sam seems the most suspicious, although LSU doesn't exactly shine either.

Going with my scum detectong instincts here, vote sam_levi11

[sam_levi_11]

so wait, your voting for me simply because. Obviously you have no idea what you are doing.

[Falkomagno]

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(I mean...)

I agree in part with Simon. But in fact, since I found the sam_levi posts as irrational and shallow-minded, I would incline the balance by LSU.
Plus,

I'm REALLY suspicious of Simon at this time because there really was NO REASON whatsoever for him to claim. He strikes me as the overeager scum trying to clear his name to try to prevent getting investigated and found as being the scum that he most likely is.

I think that the BW starts here.

So, unvote, vote LSU

[Simon Viavant]

so wait, your voting for me simply because. Obviously you have no idea what you are doing.

Actually I'm voting for you because
1)You've gone with pretty much all the bandwagons
2) You've been lurking (Yes you've posted frequently enough but you haven't really said much in those posts.)

If I "obviously have no idea what I'm doing" why was I the first person to suspect thez?

[spiesr]

If I "obviously have no idea what I'm doing" why was I the first person to suspect thez?

So that after he inevitability used his power to kill himself you would have a could say exactly what you are saying now? It is a classic scum move.

I mean...

Cheater...

[Simon Viavant]

So me and thez had a master plan where he'd suicide and I'd survive because I accused him?

[spiesr]

Well, scum mates sometimes accuse each other so that if one of them dies and is reveal then the other looks like he had been going after that person. Not sure that that is what you did, but maybe?

[LSU Tiger Josh]

So because I pointed out an observation that I've noticed over my time playing mafia I'm now getting accused by the noob without any evidence to back it up lmao.

[Stroop]

(I mean...)

We're supposed to translate ourselves, I think

If I was scum why would I call attention to myself?

Oh, please

If I "obviously have no idea what I'm doing" why was I the first person to suspect thez?

Lucky guess? Scum buddy? Mod screw-up? There's plenty of possible reasons apart from you having an idea.

So me and thez had a master plan where he'd suicide and I'd survive because I accused him?

Yeah, why not? It makes perfect sense.

Now that I've said that, I think that you do have a point in accusing sam.

SEAsportsfan (now sam) put Drench on L-2 on the very beginning of day 1, perhaps looking for an easy lynch.

Then sam replaces, he talks some sense and disappears again.

He shows up hours before the deadline and posts:

to the person who asked why i didnt vote and its still on drench, i simplt forgot it was on drench when i took over, unvote. Otherwuise this all seems like we are running around like headless chickens. No one has enough suspicion and scummy behaviour to warrant a lynch yet, so i am going to hold off untill we actually get someone who looks scummy for more cemented reasons.

Which is essentially nothing. In addition, someone was going to be lynched by deadline, that was unavoidable at that point, so there was no point in looking for "cemented reasons". This was a meaningless post, just there to show that he's watching the game.

Sam's first post on day 2:

So, the one who block knows who is scum. but we have to protec him, since is pro-town and is so usefull. Why pmc try to reveal who is that pro-town, exposing him to a mafia night kill?

Im tempted to vote you because your posts give me a headache. Each one is its own riddle.

Anyway, we dont seem to have any leads...

Oh well, get the ball rolling, vote falko

Quite a turn-around, as sam was the first to defend Falko. The very next post is by Thezz, FOSing Falko, which was also after he defended Falko on day 1. Looks to me like they agreed to try to get Falko lynched, since he could be an easy lynch.

my vote stays on falko as i have seen nothing to suggest someone is more scummy.
I believe day 1's target for lynch is town, as he didnt know we had a gov, and still claimed his innocence after lynch. Therefor im, so far, thinking he is town.

Or your vote stays on Falko because you didn't want to lynch Thezz?

So, vote sam_levi_11 for the slight lurking and being Thezz's scum buddy.

[sam_levi_11]

to the person who asked why i didnt vote and its still on drench, i simplt forgot it was on drench when i took over, unvote. Otherwuise this all seems like we are running around like headless chickens. No one has enough suspicion and scummy behaviour to warrant a lynch yet, so i am going to hold off untill we actually get someone who looks scummy for more cemented reasons.

Ever thought there was a very good reason i posted that. Because im the governor. I saved suspect because at the time we had no clue what we were doing, and just jumping from person to person hoping strike lucky. To me it looks more likely thezz was simply trying to start a bandwagon. Vote for falko was simple, since nothing happened in the night, and i save suspect101 day 1, we had no new leads, and he now officially looked scummiest. There is only so long you can use the newb card for and he seems to have made stupid mistakes people dont normally make. Coupled with the fact his posts(i know its a second language) are incredibly hard to read being dyslexic.

[Stroop]

Coupled with the fact his posts(i know its a second language) are incredibly hard to read being dyslexic.

Oh, of course. Why didn't you tell me poor English was a scum tell?

Ever thought there was a very good reason i posted that. Because im the governor.

Hm... well... suppose I'll wait to see if someone counter-claims.

Until then, unvote and another re-read

[Suspect101]

how does a commuter know someone is innocent. Do they pick a person to commute with?

[Stroop]

how does a commuter know someone is innocent. Do they pick a person to commute with?

No, they commute alone. There's no way for them to know someone is innocent outside of posts in the thread.

[spiesr]

how does a commuter know someone is innocent. Do they pick a person to commute with?

I think the only reason he said Falkomagno was innocent is that he knew that the fact the there was no kill could have come from his commuting and not only from Falkomagno being blocked. But since Falkomagno has since pm quoted and is now thought to be a townie this is kind of a mute point.

So now the only unclaimeds are me, Stroop and LSU Tiger Josh.

To me LSU Tiger Josh seems more suspicious at this moment so why not go there next? Vote LSU Tiger Josh

[Stroop]

List plus comments:

Live Players:
1. Simon Viavant* claims Commuter
2. Stroop*
4. Drench replaced by Suspect101* confirmed Politician
6. SEAsportsfan replaced by sam_levi_11* claims Governor
7. jnd94* claims Roleblocker, apparently a 1-shot deal
8. ace1217 replaced by Samuraipizzaguy*... replaced by spiesr
9. LSU Tiger Josh*
10. Falkomagno* quotes vanilla townie PM

There's 1, maybe 2 more scum left. No doctor? No investigative role? I don't believe all of these claims, and Simon's claim is the hardest to believe, for me...

Still, I suppose I'll have to look within the unclaimed group first. I don't really have a read on spiesr... LSU seems bad... I'll re-read...

[sam_levi_11]

For me LSU has been way too aggresive, and knew if he voted me i would had to claim. I think he knew what he was doing and in my book was real scummy.

And no stroop, of course i didnt mean bad english is scummy, but we had no other leads, so i just voted for him he was most scummy, and cos im dyslexic it meant i had trouble reading his posts.

[Suspect101]

For me LSU has been way too aggresive, and knew if he voted me i would had to claim. I think he knew what he was doing and in my book was real scummy.

And no stroop, of course i didnt mean bad english is scummy, but we had no other leads, so i just voted for him he was most scummy, and cos im dyslexic it meant i had trouble reading his posts.

The only problem with that theory is that I have LSU's vote, LSU can be agressive as he wants, but he still gets no vote .

I think I know what stroop is and I believe that LSU, although might be scum, is a non-factor for today. I still do not believe Simon becuase I doubt there is a commuter in this game. I find it hard to believe that there is a role blocker as well. How can the town have all these odd roles and no doc or cop?

[Simon Viavant]

Themes rarely effect what roles go into the game, and you can't be an expert on which games have a commuter as you didn't know what a commuter was before this game.

In light of sam's claim, unvote

I have to think over this a bit.

LSU seems a little suspicious, but not really.

I agree with all these claims, one of them is probably not legit though.
However commuter is hardly the oddest role in the game.

Looking it over, jnd's claim seems scummiest, claiming one shot roleblocker when he could've gotten a lynch on falko, and still innocently been wrong, but not expected to use his powers again. Also, I highly doubt a one-shot role blocker would use his powers on day one.
And he's kinda been lurking, and was part of the whole crowd calling for falko's head.
FOS jnd

[Suspect101]

Looking it over, jnd's claim seems scummiest, claiming one shot roleblocker when he could've gotten a lynch on falko, and still innocently been wrong, but not expected to use his powers again. Also, I highly doubt a one-shot role blocker would use his powers on day one.
And he's kinda been lurking, and was part of the whole crowd calling for falko's head.
FOS jnd

I completely agree with this. I have called JND out two or three times for lurking, and each time his response has been nothing more than trivial. He claimed 1 shot role block, which now makes him vanilla, and gives him an easy cover. I am not buying this.

unvote vote JND

[Simon Viavant]

vote jnd

[Falkomagno]

But, why simon would claim, to save a town, been scum? By now, I'm sure of innocence of Simon.

if you read the moment before the simon claim, it was clear as imminent falko's lynch. Who was pushing by that, besides, obviously, thezz??...


As main suspicious, I think that scum is between LSU,sam-dyslexic. and Jnd.

Suspect, can you show me the questions you are asking me, I can't find them.

I really think that falko is scum. Nothing happened last night for a reason, atleast I think. I was given one roleblock ability, and i decided to use it to see what would happen. I did use it on falko, and nothing happened.


vote falko

In fact, this post was the point when almost thez would be saved for being lynch, and after that, jnd has just unvote, without any reason.

I would like to be less busy, so I could quote some post from page 9 and 12, that I found scum, from sam and lsu, but, by now I think that we have something here...

unvote vote jnd