War of the Triple Cult (Day 6)

[Juan_Bottom]

Based on the people who voted for Derf, I wonder if Haggis was blocking the wrong cult member... maybe stroop isn't the leader and blue is sacrificing him... it's one or the other, leader, or subordinate....

[spiesr]

Based on the people who voted for Derf, I wonder if Haggis was blocking the wrong cult member... maybe stroop isn't the leader and blue is sacrificing him... it's one or the other, leader, or subordinate....

It is possible that at this point in the game the cult thought their leader was not their most important role. They could have chosen to protect some one else. Like whatever role killed Suspect today. The cult had to know that whatever member the bodyguard took the hit for would probably be lynched the next day. So maybe they protected something with a day action? I don't really see them wasting their bodyguard by having him protect a townie though. So it would seem that stroop is still cult, but possibly not the leader. Even so he should be lynched.

[Stroop]

I don't really see them wasting their bodyguard by having him protect a townie though.

Have you considered this?

A lot more likely is that Haggis's action wasn't only bodyguarding. I think he had 2 actions, which he both had to use on one target (like a jailkeeper). The other action could be roleblocking or anything else Nate would find a good fit (after the "flip flopper", I have no idea what to expect from a role anymore).

[spiesr]

Have you considered this?

A lot more likely is that Haggis's action wasn't only bodyguarding. I think he had 2 actions, which he both had to use on one target (like a jailkeeper). The other action could be roleblocking or anything else Nate would find a good fit (after the "flip flopper", I have no idea what to expect from a role anymore).

Yeah, and it doesn't seem that likely...

[ace1217]

This means vote stroop, unless you are cult as well spiser.

You seem to be angry/pushy. Understand that since it only take a majority to lynch, that not everyone gets to vote for the person being lynched, and that in this situation there will be at least as many cult members voting for stroop as not. That being said, the case against stroop appears to be a sure thing and I will cast my vote right after my couple questions are answered

Not quite, There are 11 people left. Only 4 are blue cult, if they recruited last night, which I am sure they did. (Ace might have been that target, and have a strong feeling that he killed william.) assuming they did not grab Ace that leaves 5 cult members, and 6 town. Which the town has the majority and the ability to vote lynch. The numbers are not equal, the town still has the upper hand.I don't think I can be recruited quite honestly and I did not kill william, why would I? Right now not hunting for blue will make me lose and I don't want that.

You are the blue "cult investigator" right? Did you previously investigate stroop and find him cult? Because I thought that if you tried to kill a townie, something bad would happen. If that is true and you had not previously investigated stroop, why would you take the risk of attempting a kill against an unconfirmed? If you had previously investigated stroop and found him to be cult why wouldn't you have said something? Or I am just misunderstanding what happen if you target a townie?

Becuase of the derf lynch, which I was strongly against for this reason, if I did not kill a blue cult, they would have 5 town would have 6 and with Ace left over. The game is over. Blue cult would win. All they have to say is "Ace vote no lynch and we will make you blue and give you the win". Even if I got a confirmed investigation, there is no majority to get a lynch, which is why as I explained we needed to keep derf alive. So I killed a person who I was 90% sure was cult and now know for sure.
Again, I don't think I can be recruited to blue now, despite the fact that would be good for me.

We don't need to blow through the day so fast we don't get any discussion...

agree, but since stroop is at L-4, your vote would be appreciated to show your allegiance

[spiesr]

Ace, what exactly do you mean by quoting that post of suspect's? Are you just saying that that is your position on the matter?

[Stroop]

Ace, what exactly do you mean by quoting that post of suspect's? Are you just saying that that is your position on the matter?

Look closely. There's a reply in there in Italic

[spiesr]

Why is no one posting!

Ace, most of us would guess that you can't be recruited from one cult to another. And the person who was mistaken is dead. But, at least you posted at all...

[captainwalrus]

No one is posting cause stroop is cult, and they are just trying to use thier nubers and our lack of unity to just wait out untill someone else looks scummy. unvote vote stroop for emphasis

[Stroop]

I'm not posting because I've said enough in my defense. I'm just waiting for a verdict now

[Juan_Bottom]

Well I haven't been posting because I wanted to hear everyone else speak... Hoping I could figure out who killed our investagator....
And obviously who's blue. I also wasn't online long yesterday.

No one is posting cause stroop is cult, and they are just trying to use thier nubers and our lack of unity to just wait out untill someone else looks scummy. unvote vote stroop for emphasis

Something weird is going on here, and I want to figure it out.

I think derf was killed by blue cult, so those that voted for him are highly suspect. If I could figure out that he was innocent, the rest of you should have too.

I'm not posting because I've said enough in my defense. I'm just waiting for a verdict now

Our investagor believed you are cult. You had been suspected before he tried to catch you. I think that you're cult. I just don't know if Haggas was a throw away or not.

[spiesr]

I'm not posting because I've said enough in my defense. I'm just waiting for a verdict now

Guilty?

[Stroop]

I'm not posting because I've said enough in my defense. I'm just waiting for a verdict now

Guilty?

Big surprise. You're already voting me and convinced I'm cult and now you won't listen to reason.

Pretty much the same mistake I made on the derf lynch.

[ace1217]

Vote stroop the evidence against you is rather incriminating, and the fact that the one who brought said evidence against you is now dead doesn't help you much either.

[captainwalrus]

Is that enough to lynch?

[Stroop]

Is that enough to lynch?

I don't think it is. L-1, I believe.

I would claim, but I've already done that.

[Juan_Bottom]

You still won't get my vote until I get this.

[spiesr]

You still won't get my vote until I get this.

Until you get what?

[Juan_Bottom]

You still won't get my vote until I get this.

Until you get what?

Based on the last vote, and this latest one... It feels to me like some blue are voting for Stroop, while some are remaining silent. So what I'd like to know is if I'm right; Why would they do that?

[Stroop]

You still won't get my vote until I get this.

Until you get what?

Based on the last vote, and this latest one... It feels to me like some blue are voting for Stroop, while some are remaining silent. So what I'd like to know is if I'm right; Why would they do that?

Why would they vote me or why would they remain silent?

[spiesr]

It feels to me like some blue are voting for Stroop,

To look like townies by being on the vote when a blue cult member is lynched.

while some are remaining silent.

To not be noticed.

[norsemsn1066]

You still won't get my vote until I get this.

Until you get what?

Based on the last vote, and this latest one... It feels to me like some blue are voting for Stroop, while some are remaining silent. So what I'd like to know is if I'm right; Why would they do that?

It would seem that is what is happening here. The Blue cult is on the verge of winning this thing so they'll railroad threw a lynch on pretty much anyone they want right now. I'd bet the ones argueing loudest for Stroops lynch are blue cult members. That's why my viote is where it is.

[The Fuzzy Pengui]

I'd bet the ones argueing loudest for Stroops lynch are blue cult members. That's why my viote is where it is.

Agreed. That's why I haven't voted for him yet. I fear they may just be throwing the first "unimportant" person they could under the bus to save the rest of their cult and be able to win. I could vote stroop if the rest of the town would like, but I'd rather be 100% sure it's the leader instead of allowing them to recruit somebody else tonight.

[spiesr]

It would seem that is what is happening here. The Blue cult is on the verge of winning this thing so they'll railroad threw a lynch on pretty much anyone they want right now. I'd bet the ones argueing loudest for Stroops lynch are blue cult members. That's why my viote is where it is.

So you think stroop is town and the blue cult is trying to bandwagon him in order to win today? Why would the cult bodyguard be guarding stroop if he was not cult?

Agreed. That's why I haven't voted for him yet. I fear they may just be throwing the first "unimportant" person they could under the bus to save the rest of their cult and be able to win. I could vote stroop if the rest of the town would like, but I'd rather be 100% sure it's the leader instead of allowing them to recruit somebody else tonight.

So you think that stroop is a cult member but possibly not the leader because the cult is sacrificing him? So you don't actually agree with norse despite that you said you did. How would the cult choose to sacrifice him? Remember that we found him out because suspect tried to kill him last night, but he was saved the the cult bodyguard. It looks to me that the cult was trying to keep him alive.

[Stroop]

It would seem that is what is happening here. The Blue cult is on the verge of winning this thing so they'll railroad threw a lynch on pretty much anyone they want right now. I'd bet the ones argueing loudest for Stroops lynch are blue cult members. That's why my viote is where it is.

So you think stroop is town and the blue cult is trying to bandwagon him in order to win today? Why would the cult bodyguard be guarding stroop if he was not cult?

You keep asking that, but I provided a reasonable explanation.