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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby drake_259 on Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:55 pm

im still in chunks with this game.

okay well as for the daykill, it could be 1-shot ability, but i think its more likely to be 1-shot per day vig

as for who killed the psychic it could be absolutely anyone, we have no leads on it or anything so we need to try finding something else to work on in order to find the scum.
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby animorpherv1 on Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:38 pm

LIST OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE DIED (FOR neatness sake:)

Diddle-Postponer-Ethereal Tau.
Sheepofdumb Necron Lord-Godfather of Necrons)
LSU-Sorcerer-Chaos roleblocker
Mr. Incrediball-Governor Militant Lukas Alexander-Godfather of the Imperial guard
Ace1217-Commander of Guardsmen-Imperial Guard Goon
Thezzaruz-Apothecary- Space Marine Doctor has died. .
Kwanton-Pariah Thomas Macabee-Poisoner- Necron
Ga7-Brother Captain Davian Thule-Godfather of Space Marines.
Icedagger-Decipher #1-Ork.

not counting haola (and jnd)
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby jnd94 on Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:06 pm

Good for nothing nothings.
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby Iliad on Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:41 pm

More activity is needed in this game. Lurkers you know who you are. Post. Couple of posts per game day is not good enough.
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby Hologram on Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:28 am

kalishnikov wrote:
dunc_2007 wrote:
Stroop wrote:Would diddle's postponing be able to do this, even though he died?

I wouldn't kill jnd publicly after arguing with him :lol:


Yeah, that would be too obvious. I'm guessing it was someone else. But why jnd?


To sow the seeds of confusion. The scum have the advantage in large chaotic games like this as all they must do is stay hidden whereas the town must weed them out, JND outed himself with a power role by claiming his investigation so the scum took him out seeing an easy shot with a daykill further deepening an already very confusing situation.

I don't think it was a delayed kwan kill unless Iliad is using different mechanics on the Poisoner role then I've seen, generally their kills come off as just a plain day or night kill and sense kwan is dead it seems unlikely it was him. I'll also bet that it was some sort of one-shot ability as opposed to a daykiller, I don't know that with all the NKs that Iliad would also include a daykiller, that seems a little extreme. Seems more likely it would be an item or a one-shot ability or something. Of course this is all just speculation...

And I doubt it was Stroop unless he was playing that 'too stupid of a move to be me' card, in which case I applaud your ballsy move sir. ;)
Indeed it was a ballsy move, just ballsy enough to be plausible.

Pending further leads vote Stroop
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby F1fth on Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:02 am

Ever heard of WIFOM? Obviously, it would be the best time to do it because you could just say "Why would I argue with him first." Besides, you weren't even arguing, you were asking him questions.

Anyway, to me the only reason I could come up with why you so concerned about whether JND was Tau is that you're a lyncher or have some kind of special objective to kill a Tau. But secret objectives don't bother me so much. Daykilling does, and there is a fair chance that you are the daykiller.

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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby Iliad on Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:35 am

Vote count
Stroop 2- hologram, f1fth

With 16 people alive it takes 9 to lynch
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby The1exile on Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:37 am

man, I totally forgot I was even in this game :lol:

Sorry. I'll read up and post this afternoon with my thoughts.
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby Stroop on Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:28 am

F1fth wrote:Ever heard of WIFOM? Obviously, it would be the best time to do it because you could just say "Why would I argue with him first." Besides, you weren't even arguing, you were asking him questions.


Yes I have heard of WIFOM and I do realize that "It would be a stupid move" is a worthless argument. I was just trying to uncover some info to work with, and it obviously backfired a bit. Arguing, asking questions... my English is good, not perfect.

Anyway, to me the only reason I could come up with why you so concerned about whether JND was Tau is that you're a lyncher or have some kind of special objective to kill a Tau. But secret objectives don't bother me so much. Daykilling does, and there is a fair chance that you are the daykiller.


I'm not in the least concerned with anyone's alignments but my own but, to be cliche, knowledge is power. ;)
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby sam_levi_11 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:10 am

Jnd94-Farseer Taldeer of Ulthwe (Eldar Psychic) has died

Diddle-Postponer-Ethereal Tau. has died

Mr. Incrediball-Governor-Militant Lukas Alexander-Godfather of the Imperial Guard have died
Ace1217-Commander of Guardsmen-Imperial Guard Goon have died


Thezzaruz-Apothecary- Space Marine Doctor has died
Ga7-Brother Captain Davian Thule-Godfather of Space Marines. has died.


Icedagger-Decipher #1-Ork. has died.

Sheepofdumb Necron Lord-Godfather of Necrons has died
Kwanton-Pariah Thomas Macabee-Poisoner- Necron has died


Pcmhugh-heretic-Chaos goon. has died
LSU-Sorcerer-Chaos roleblocker has died
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby sam_levi_11 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:13 am

well im guessing no one is town and its simply a faction battle as no townie died amongst them.

Therefor we have to work out who is the "good" factions and who is the "bad" factions.

good:
Jnd94-Farseer Taldeer of Ulthwe (Eldar Psychic) has died

Mr. Incrediball-Governor-Militant Lukas Alexander-Godfather of the Imperial Guard have died
Ace1217-Commander of Guardsmen-Imperial Guard Goon have died

Thezzaruz-Apothecary- Space Marine Doctor has died
Ga7-Brother Captain Davian Thule-Godfather of Space Marines. has died.



bad:

Sheepofdumb Necron Lord-Godfather of Necrons has died
Kwanton-Pariah Thomas Macabee-Poisoner- Necron has died

Pcmhugh-heretic-Chaos goon. has died
LSU-Sorcerer-Chaos roleblocker has died


not sure:
Diddle-Postponer-Ethereal Tau. has died
Icedagger-Decipher #1-Ork. has died.
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby dunc_2007 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:00 am

I'm going to give stroop the benefit of the doubt on this one; I don't think he would pull such a move.

sam_levi_11 wrote:not sure:
Diddle-Postponer-Ethereal Tau. has died
Icedagger-Decipher #1-Ork. has died.


I'm guessing we'd classify the orcs as a 'bad' faction.
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby kalishnikov on Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:43 am

Well, from the very small amount of knowledge I've got in regard to the storyline the only factions I know are 'good' are the Space Marines and the Imperial Guard, the Tau seem like they want to be but walk the line a lot and the Orcs aren't so much good or bad, they are the just there and doing what they do (killing... I mean they're Orcs, what else do you expect from them?) which happens to make them 'bad' because they kill Marines and everyone else (including themselves sometimes). This is all just from quick reading from Wiki and other 'net sources from the last DoW game.

To be honest though, none of that shit matters though, we need to lynch the people that act/seem scummy or are a detriment to the game/side YOU are on, defining the factions with fairly irrelevant terms like good and evil is helpful for context but hardly important for the overall game, its just semantics as I'm betting each faction has a win condition totally unrelated to each other's (other then maybe the Orcs would have to kill all the Marines or vice-versa, just meant that I doubt they would have to work together for any shared goals like to eliminate all the 'evil' factions).

You guys pickin up what I'm putting down here? We can classify people and factions with arbitrary labels until we're blue in the face and it's not gonna help anyone get anywhere as far as actual game progress is concerned. All that said, I've got nothing as far as following my own advice goes... ;)
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby kalishnikov on Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:45 am

Yes, yes, I overuse the word 'though' sometimes, my fingers type it without my brain telling them to... #-o
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby F1fth on Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:56 am

I agree, Kalish. I don't see why in every game people insist on defining a "good" side and a "bad" side. From what I understand, it's a 7-way free-for-all with a few unfortunate spectators in the middle (like Haola). The only realistic option is for them to target killers in an attempt to make this game less filled with death. That said, Stroop may or may not be one of those killers, but it's certainly the best lead I have right now, so I'm leaving my vote on him.
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby sam_levi_11 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:18 pm

well tbh we have no leads and so i agree stroop is our best bet on taking a daykiler.

vote stroop
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby animorpherv1 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:33 pm

vote Stroop he's our best lead right now, so let's go for it.
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby drake_259 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:34 pm

Vote Stoop

He may be the day killer, but that's probably not the case. why am i voting for him, we need answers, and the only way to get onto leads are pretty much only by killing people
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby william18 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:42 pm

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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby pancakemix on Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:58 pm

I dunno. Just from those posts pulled together, they're entirely unrelated. You guys are ignoring the obvious other side of the coin: Isn't that exactly what the hypothetical real killer wants me to think? I'm not denying Stroop could have done it, but it's absolutely baseless just from those posts. In fact, Stroop was doing exactly what I would do. Jnd claimed investigative, so since he's given away the nature of his role, he should be more than willing to share some extra information. It's Jnd's fault he got himself killed because he didn't read the scene (or the thread, Ga made a voice from the grave comment) carefully, so he had it coming. It's even mentioned in his death scene.

Remind me, why are we lynching Stroop?
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby animorpherv1 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:01 pm

PCM- This game is more than liekly factions based -like his CC mafia and my Pokémon mafia- so it doesn't matter who gets lynched.
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby william18 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:03 pm

I doubt Iliad would make it that each faction is good, even though a few obviously arn't. I agree there is no mafia, but perhaps Iliad could have concocted some more sinister win condition for the more evil nations.
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby pancakemix on Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:06 pm

animorpherv1 wrote:PCM- This game is more than liekly factions based -like his CC mafia and my Pokémon mafia- so it doesn't matter who gets lynched.


Why would that make the lynch irrelevant?
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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby Stroop on Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:09 pm

animorpherv1 wrote:PCM- This game is more than liekly factions based -like his CC mafia and my Pokémon mafia- so it doesn't matter who gets lynched.


Then you'll agree on lynching you :|

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Re: Dawn of War Day 2-The bloodiest night in history 10 deaths!!

Postby Natewolfman on Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:22 pm

I agree who we lynch is very relivent... im not voting yet as i have not seen a good reason to lynch anyone given yet... and at what PCM said, why are we voting for Stroop? i dont remember reading anything that marks him as a killer, unless i missed something?
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