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WW2 Operation Market Garden - v4

Postby crosseout on Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:29 pm

Operation Market Garden

Vital info:
Map Title: Operation Market Garden
Mapmaker: crosseout
9 Regions
71 territories (+ 13 cities = 84)
Bonuses: 9(regions) + 4 (ammunition storage)
Gameplay: Hold the cities to win, other than that, standard.
Size: Large 840px Ɨ 800px; Small 630px Ɨ 600px

Setting
September 17 1944, Operation Market Guarden was launched. The plan was to secure a crossing over the Rhine, which was the last natural barrier into germany.

Objective

Seize all the cities along the route.

Neutrals
5 neutrals in every city
1-3 neutrals on normal territories.
3 neutrals on any river crossing

Features
- Cities have a -2 bonus
- Cities can only attack the cities in front and back, but may attack any territory its own territory boarders.
- Ammunition points, 1 bonus for every territory with ammunition supplies.

plan
I do everything, but obviously I depend on the community feedback(;


Work done

- Created the base layers
- Created the route and cities
- Rivers & crossings
- Territories & regions
- City names, region names & territory labels
- ROE (rules of engagement)
- Legend
- update 3
- colored bonusregions
- clearer background
- added ammunition points
- better bridges


- Bonus overview not completed
- need feedback on everything:)


suggestions
- small map coming soon
- color territories working on it now

note that the style is supposed to look like it was hand drawn by a soldier, not just rough state....

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v1: http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/16 ... rdenv1.jpg
v2: http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/16 ... rdenv2.jpg
v3: http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/16 ... rdenv3.jpg
v4:
small: http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/16 ... 4small.jpg
large: http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/11/16 ... 4large.jpg
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden

Postby Qwert on Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:34 pm

Work
-how map look in small size
- Paper, ink and pencil
- Created the base layers
- Created the route and cities
- Rivers & crossings
- Territories & regions
- City names, region names & territory labels
- ROE (rules of engagement)
- Legend

You forget to add these first to work. ;)
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden

Postby crosseout on Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:37 pm

qwert wrote:
Work
-how map look in small size
- Paper, ink and pencil
- Created the base layers
- Created the route and cities
- Rivers & crossings
- Territories & regions
- City names, region names & territory labels
- ROE (rules of engagement)
- Legend

You forget to add these first to work. ;)


?
Thats a list of what I have done already...?
Do you think the map looks fun/playable?
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden

Postby Natewolfman on Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:49 pm

neat looking map, keep going =D>
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden

Postby crosseout on Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:07 pm

Natewolfman wrote:neat looking map, keep going =D>


Thanks, i'm not sure what to do next though... I need some feedback, something to work with(;
Got any suggestions?
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden

Postby Qwert on Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:58 pm

well i give you sugestion,right,soon or later you will ask to see how map look in 630x600 dimension,and these is what is required for Main Map Foundry.
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden

Postby crosseout on Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:56 pm

qwert wrote:well i give you sugestion,right,soon or later you will ask to see how map look in 630x600 dimension,and these is what is required for Main Map Foundry.


alright, will do; thanks :D
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden

Postby the.killing.44 on Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:51 pm

Wow this is looking nice, my only critique so far is about the bonuses - you probably want some color code or bolder lines to clarify further.

What did you do this in?
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden

Postby crosseout on Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:56 am

the.killing.44 wrote:Wow this is looking nice, my only critique so far is about the bonuses - you probably want some color code or bolder lines to clarify further.

What did you do this in?



will do:D

photoshop cs2

thanks for the feedback :D
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden - v3

Postby crosseout on Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:02 pm

update

added color

which one do you like the best?
this(?):
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or this(?):
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thanks for feedback:D
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden - v3

Postby Natewolfman on Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:05 pm

i personally like the 2nd one better, though i would make a more definate line between the map and the note pad. It looks likea like they are just melting togeather
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden - v3

Postby Qwert on Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:46 pm

ok,lets try to give some oppinion.
1.Add army shadows
2.Bonus space cover to much of map.
3.Bridges can be much better.
4.I belive that everything writen on these map size,will be very imposible to read in small map.
5.I think that you start with huge task,to create map with these numbers of territory,who is look to much.
6.I will give more oppinions when you present small images
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden - v3

Postby crosseout on Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:30 pm

qwert wrote:ok,lets try to give some oppinion.
1.Add army shadows
2.Bonus space cover to much of map.
3.Bridges can be much better.
4.I belive that everything writen on these map size,will be very imposible to read in small map.
5.I think that you start with huge task,to create map with these numbers of territory,who is look to much.
6.I will give more oppinions when you present small images



thanks:)

1. what is army shadow, what do you mean?
2. I'll try to squeese it down
3. The map is supposed to look hand drawn, but I suppose I'll make some decent ones(;
4. I'll make the typing larger if it becomes a problem.
5. I don't get what you mean?
6. Smaller image is coming within 24 hours.
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden - v3

Postby crosseout on Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:32 pm

Natewolfman wrote:i personally like the 2nd one better, though i would make a more definate line between the map and the note pad. It looks likea like they are just melting togeather


2nd one it is then, and i'll make a clear division.


qwert wrote:ok,lets try to give some oppinion.
1.Add army shadows
2.Bonus space cover to much of map.
3.Bridges can be much better.
4.I belive that everything writen on these map size,will be very imposible to read in small map.
5.I think that you start with huge task,to create map with these numbers of territory,who is look to much.
6.I will give more oppinions when you present small images



thanks:)

1. what is army shadow, what do you mean?
2. I'll try to squeese it down
3. The map is supposed to look hand drawn, but I suppose I'll make some decent ones(;
4. I'll make the typing larger if it becomes a problem.
5. I don't get what you mean?
6. Smaller image is coming within 24 hours.[/quote]
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden - v3

Postby the.killing.44 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:36 pm

IMO you should make all the cities start neutral, possibly with 4 or 5.
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden - v3

Postby whitestazn88 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:42 pm

looks pretty cool, but one of the cities isn't on the trail...
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden - v3

Postby crosseout on Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:04 pm

the.killing.44 wrote:IMO you should make all the cities start neutral, possibly with 4 or 5.


crosseout wrote:Neutrals
5 neutrals in every city
1-3 neutrals on normal territories.
3 neutrals on any river crossing



whitestazn88 wrote:looks pretty cool, but one of the cities isn't on the trail...


i'll fix that
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden - v3

Postby the.killing.44 on Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:16 pm

My bad didn't look at the text from the first post :oops:
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden - v4

Postby crosseout on Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:59 am

update number 4
small and large map
added a bit of route
added suppliespoints
added sharper line between map and notepad
better brides?

do you guys think ammunition points are a good idea?

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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden - v4

Postby Natewolfman on Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:30 pm

ya, the text in the small is really hard to read, and is it really need to split the word 'territory' into two lines?
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden - v4

Postby Qwert on Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:16 pm

Army shadows-these is circle where you put army numbers.

I can give you sugestion,that you first add army circle and names,and then to create new territory, who will have enough space for bouth things.
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden - v4

Postby crosseout on Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:34 pm

Natewolfman wrote:ya, the text in the small is really hard to read, and is it really need to split the word 'territory' into two lines?


I'll see what I can do about it



qwert wrote:Army shadows-these is circle where you put army numbers.

I can give you sugestion,that you first add army circle and names,and then to create new territory, who will have enough space for bouth things.


I'll post a map with army-numbers, and then we'll see if armycircles are needed; I have a feeling that the circles are not necessary on this map. I'll post update tomorrow(;

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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden - v4

Postby sailorseal on Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:48 pm

This is a great map i look forward to playing.
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden - v4

Postby whitestazn88 on Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:18 pm

the instructions about cities can only own territories or something ridiculous doesn't make sense (i'm talking about the paragraph right above bonuses)
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Re: WW2 Operation Market Garden - v4

Postby Premier2k on Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:20 pm

I like this map crosseout! I'd play it!

I particulay like the graphics you've done on this. Keep up the good work!

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