Virgin Hologram's C9+2 Game Game over! Mafia wins!

[animorpherv1]

No, my theory is that there is an sk but no more mafias.

Oops.

Well then we get the SK to kil the other sk?

[spiesr]

If you go here you can look up the serial killer and find how it works. It is normally out to kill everybody.

[spiesr]

Well then we get the SK to kil the other sk?

What are you talking about? One of the extra roles is already dead, so there can only be one left.

[Natewolfman]

Well then we get the SK to kil the other sk?

What are you talking about? One of the extra roles is already dead, so there can only be one left.

why? there are 4 of us, what is the likely hood that 2, or at least 3 of you are something other then regular villigers?

[spiesr]

why? there are 4 of us, what is the likely hood that 2, or at least 3 of you are something other then regular villagers?

Zero
This is a C9+2 game. That means there are the usual C9 roles (two mafia, doc, and a cop, all of whom are dead as well as three townies all of whom are alive) plus two extra rolls one of which is dead. So there is one left alive.

[Natewolfman]

ok i think i get it... at least the system, 9=9 players and +2 means two roles that are not mafia or town? but my question is why does it have to be an assassin? cant it be something else, im not sure of the other roles though.

Right now im leaning twords perhaps on round 1 the assassin/mafia both chose the same person to kill, therefor only 1 person died, its the only logical explination (from my point of view at least)

[spiesr]

Err...no.
Let me try to explain again. C9 is are common albeit badly named type of mafia game. It consists of 7 players. 2 mafia, a cop, a doc, and 3 townies.
This game is entitled C9+2. There are 9 players in this game. So logically this game consists of the 7 roles from a C9 game plus 2 extra roles which could be anything.
So the players in this game should go as follows:
Mafia#1 (DEAD)
Mafia#2 (DEAD)
Doctor (DEAD)
Cop (DEAD)
Townie
Townie
Townie
Extra Role#1 (DEAD)
Extra Role#2

[spiesr]

To further elaborate here is what we know about the remaining extra role:
There is only one extra role left. Because there are three dead people labeled "mafia" one of them is an extra role.
It has killing abilities. Because their was two deaths on night two.
It is a threat to the town. Because the game continues and there is only one extra role left.
It is not part of the mafia group. Because it killed Stephen Wayne.

Pretty much all this leaves is a serial killer.

There the actions that must have been taken are as follows:
Night 1
Mafia Kill The1exile (Death Miller & Extra Role#1)
SK also kill The1exile or send no action like Fircoal would have.

Night 2
Mafia Kill pmchugh
SK Kill Stephen Wayne

[animorpherv1]

I understand now, there is only 1 role left that isn't town. It has to be a SK.

GAH.

[Natewolfman]

thanks for the explination, i was wondering what C9+2 ment now i get it! ok so sk is definately the remaining, so next step is what do we know about the players? again i have not reread through this whole thread since it was at like 10 or 12 pages when i got here

and also, why isnt the 4th player posting in opinions?

[Hologram]

Because he's being stupid. I'll prod him.

[drake_259]

Okay, in order that i would guess who is the SK is

Natewolfman
Spiesr
Animorpherv1

Nate is first because of the issue with fircoal and only being one kill that night, the chances of two people killing the same person 29% while if it was fircoal it would have been 0% as he would have not sent in a NA

Spiesr because he seems to be quite on top of this case, and i have never really seen it before in any other game. but we are at lynch or lose so he may just be putting up a step just to keep us from losing

and as for ani, there is nothing on him really


So my HOS goes to nate, i will be voting for him in a day or two unless someone gives me a reason why we shouldn't


P.S. Sorry about low amount of posting, haven't been able to get on much for this week for the amount of things i normally do on cc

[animorpherv1]

The thing is, people who are helpful may be trying to fool us into thiking they are town, by being helpful.

I'd rather say its spiesr.

[Natewolfman]

my suspect list goes as such

Spiesr
Animorpherv1
drake_259

Spiesr - basically for the same reason drake gave, nothing substantial other then a gut feeling... sorry Spiesr
Animorpherv1 - only in 2nd because i dont suspect drake at all at this point
drake_259 - I think that if he was the sk he would have more stake at this point and would post alot more and try to be minipulateing the situation... but hes less then enthusiastic dealings here lead me to belive he is without a doubt innocent

[drake_259]

okay here are all of our who we think are sk list

Drake:
Nate
spis
ani

Nate:
spis
ani
drake

ani:
spis
nate
drake

spis
nate
ani
drake

some of these may be wrong but its more guess work with spis and ani

if the list is indeed like this then spis and nate are dead even with votes

i can see spis as being scum really easy, so lets see what he has to say to defend himself

[spiesr]

Aw, come on! When I finally figure a game out its gonna get me lynched?
Seriously though, we get this one wrong we lose. Let's pull this together. Nate is my suspicion now so lets discuss.

[Natewolfman]

honestly (this is me speaking from a neutral view) discussion on me is tough... Because i came in the game so late, nothing from previous areas will give me away OR claim me innocent, other then the option that I came in on the same night 2 people were killed...

What i find somewhat fishy however is that, in all honesty you are VERY mythotical, you plan everything out and are quite thurough in your research in every way shape and form (from what i could see at least), and yet you didnt think of the possibility that the assassin/mafia killed the same person in the same night, instead it was an instant jump on the new comer so the others wouldnt think about it... In all honesty BOTH senerios are very likelly, but the fact that you didnt even think of the one that *might* have implicated you seems very strange to me...

[spiesr]

Night 1
Mafia Kill The1exile (Death Miller & Extra Role#1)
SK also kill The1exile or send no action like Fircoal would have.

[Natewolfman]

Night 1
Mafia Kill The1exile (Death Miller & Extra Role#1)
SK also kill The1exile or send no action like Fircoal would have.

i mean originally when you had the senario set that i was it, you posted that after i mentioned the possibility

[spiesr]

Yeah that's right. I guess that came about when I was putting the theory together. Early on in thinking it up I figured exile really was mafia so I didn't consider cross kill then and it must of stuck that way somehow... Thanks for pointing it out later though.

[animorpherv1]

I'm surprsed drake got that right without me saying where nate/drake were, and in all honesty, I am suprised that drake is here, and I'm cofnused.

[spiesr]

Your surprised he is here? You are really confused...

[animorpherv1]

Your surprised he is here? You are really confused...

See? I told you.

[drake_259]

Your surprised he is here? You are really confused...

See? I told you.

tbh im not sure what your getting at.

first i thought that im now talking more often, but then you say 'see? i told you.' when spiesr says why are you suprised i am here. unless spiesr had meant to put a comma after surprised.


anyway i also had some big investigations in the thread also which both turned out to be be misunderstanding what was being said, so just because he might of done it in this game just because he found something he doesn't normally find.

im sorry nate but if i don't vote you off i won't get over it that i didn't if you turn out to be scum whereas the others i could.

Vote: nate

[Natewolfman]

im sorry nate but if i don't vote you off i won't get over it that i didn't if you turn out to be scum whereas the others i could.

Vote: nate

on the plus side this does reinforce my opinion that you are NOT the scum, but at the cost of a vote to me >.< Im sticking with my gut on this one, im almost possitive its not animorph, so vote spiesr because he is the only logical choice in my opinion, and i hope im not wrong, because if its not him we lose, but im confident that it is!