C9 game - Mafia wins!

by **pmchugh** on Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:48 pm

ga7 wrote:Lol, you're bad at stats Pmc.

Hell yes, failing maths miserably. I will take your word those are the stats, but despite them I still reckon its that 1/3 chance. And yes i did just defend him again, i think im in love

Fact is, there was plenty of info in day 1 however short that was. You blatantly defended Cena even though you had no reason to, and pushed hard for Spiesr's lynch. I think either you or Spiesr is scum, it can't be both.

Then it must be speisr, you may see a claim coming.

The unknown would be the second scum then; if you're scum it's likely Cena, if Spiesr is scum it's likely Diddle, although I can't really get a read on Nag since he posted so little and could be whoever's scumbuddy.

Sounds fair.

Now let's look at our situation. We lynch a townie, we lose. We lynch a scum, there will be 1/3 chances for scum to target the cop anyway. Except if the cop did the unthinkable and investigated Spurg, he needs to come out even if his investigation was on a townie, making it 2 cleared townies and making our chances of getting scum 1/2 even on a random lynch. Considering it's LYLO, whatever raises our odds to lynch scum now is needed.

Fair enough Im the cop and i unfortunatly didn't go with my gut and investigate speisr but instead i went with you ga7 and got town.

IN SUMMARY
I am cop.
Investigated ga7- got town
Im cant do stats

by **pmchugh** on Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:58 pm

pmchugh wrote:IN SUMMARY
I am cop.
Investigated ga7- got town
Im cant do stats

Im cant do good sentences either.

In C9 is it definate that if you have a doc you also have a doc?

If so then its confirmed 100% that:
Town=
pmchugh
ga7
spurg(dead)

That leaves us with 4 options:
cena- unless his scum buddy voted for him then he is town.
speisr- my gut instict as scum.
diddle- possible partner for speisr.
nag- not enough info.

2 of the above must be scum. I think that cena is town and speisr is scum as you know. For me that leaves a toss up between diddle and nag for the scum buddy but chances are I will be dead before I have to make that choice.

by **pmchugh** on Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:58 pm

pmchugh wrote:
pmchugh wrote:IN SUMMARY
I am cop.
Investigated ga7- got town
Im cant do stats

Im cant do good sentences either.

In C9 is it definate that if you have a doc you also have a cop?

If so then its confirmed 100% that:
Town=
pmchugh
ga7
spurg(dead)

That leaves us with 4 options:
cena- unless his scum buddy voted for him then he is town.
speisr- my gut instict as scum.
diddle- possible partner for speisr.
nag- not enough info.

2 of the above must be scum. I think that cena is town and speisr is scum as you know. For me that leaves a toss up between diddle and nag for the scum buddy but chances are I will be dead before I have to make that choice.

EBWOP

by **ga7** on Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:07 pm

Pfff, poor play. I don't get why you were so adamant on defending Cena (which would be one major suspect less if the lynch had occured) and investigated me instead of 2 freaking suspects. It sounds so far fetched I'll wait for a potential counter claim before voting.

by **spiesr** on Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:04 pm

Ohh, why you picking on me?

by **spiesr** on Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:02 pm

In all seriousness, why, pmchugh, did you investigate ga7?
Cena why are you doing things that make ga7 want to lynch you?
ga7, you seem to be trying to be a driving force in this game. Are you potentially a mafia trying to railroad the winning lynch through? Faking protown hero or the real deal?
Why can't I do anything better than ask dumb questions?

by **ga7** on Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:21 pm

Bah, if I was scum it would necessarily be with Pmc, and if he was fakeclaiming cop he could have as well fakeclaimed a townie to be scum which would have made more sense

So likely he is telling the truth, but everyone needs to post just in case.

by **pmchugh** on Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:42 am

spiesr wrote:In all seriousness, why, pmchugh, did you investigate ga7?

You wrote:ga7, you seem to be trying to be a driving force in this game. Are you potentially a mafia trying to railroad the winning lynch through? Faking protown hero or the real deal?

Thats why, I realise now it was "poor play" but at the time I had the same thoughts as you and forgot that the time was so limited (usually play bigger games). I regret it now but its the truth ga7, as you just told us.

spiesr wrote:Cena why are you doing things that make ga7 want to lynch you?

This is why i am defending him, he did virtually nothing exceept that "claim bitch" comment and got bandwagonnned so fast it seems unlikely he is scum.

And yeah didnt you listen spiesr, I got ga7 as town in my investigation.

Where is everyone else? Diddle? Nag? Cena? At least one of our scum is lurking.

by **nagerous** on Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:18 am

I'm liking this way of thinking.. Spiesr is my number one suspect of maf at the moment... he seems very edgy, especially when pushing against the cleared townie.

Apologies if you think I have been lurking pmc but I have had a tough last few days and haven't that much internet time... ga7 can even confirm this.

by **The1exile** on Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:35 am

pmchugh wrote:In C9 is it definate that if you have a doc you also have a cop?

*definite

The choice to have a doc, cop, both or neither is entirely a mod decision in C9.

spurgistan wrote:Damn, and I had it all figured out, too. **

**Not actually true.

Then use "...and I would have gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for those meddling kids!"

by **spiesr** on Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:42 am

Not thinking so much there on my part... #-o

by **cena-rules** on Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:32 pm

having read the last discussion i say vote spi

you guys get ideas Ill act on them

by **diddle** on Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:37 pm

To metagame slightly, in the extremely messed up pokemon mafia, Spiesr was very overbearing, and very pushy in his posting style, but only because he knew he was surrounded by generally unexperienced players. He turned out to be scum. In this game, he's slightly more toned down, possibly because he is scum, but can't employ his previous tactics, becasue he knows the players in this game are more likely to see through them.

Its not evidence though, so I'll have to make do with an FOS for now.

by **pmchugh** on Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:34 pm

diddle wrote:To metagame slightly, in the extremely messed up pokemon mafia, Spiesr was very overbearing, and very pushy in his posting style, but only because he knew he was surrounded by generally unexperienced players. He turned out to be scum. In this game, he's slightly more toned down, possibly because he is scum, but can't employ his previous tactics, becasue he knows the players in this game are more likely to see through them.

Its not evidence though, so I'll have to make do with an FOS for now.

I thought you didnt metagame lol. I dont get what you are saying though. Peoples styles change, espicially under different circumstances. He couldnt really be overbearing in this game, since he got it from the first minute lol.

CENA- you lazy bastard.

NAG- totally understand, I know things can get like that, ask anyone in my football game.

Im actualy beginning to think a little now, we cant afford to get it wrong in LYLO. What if Im wrong? I have no proof cena is town so easily could be scum. The question then would be who is his scum buddy, when they must have voted for him. only one i can think of is nag, who knew he would arise suspicision if he didnt hammer. (unlike me lol)

But spiesr is still my major suspect. I guess i will look a little closer at whats been said later-ish. Problem is there is a very harsh time limit even if there is major activity.

by **spiesr** on Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:05 pm

Well, since I am town, I believe that lynching cena will be better for the town than lynching me because a potential scum give a a chance not to instantly lose. I am also kinda suspicious of diddle and nag. At this point we need to be sure though...

by **ga7** on Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:16 pm

Pff, with Cena acting as usual it's hard to see heh. I'm slightly more inclined to vote Spiesr right now anyway.

by **ga7** on Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:35 pm

Ok I made up my mind. We basically have either a nag-cena partnership or a spiesr-diddle. While I know Nag wouldn't be that lazy and actively trying to avoid suspicion while scum, he had indeed no time for this these days. Nonetheless his attempted hammer could have fitted as Pmc said.
Then we have Spiesr, attempting to avoid voting Diddle day 1 and now trying to stir doubt about Pmc and me.

In both cases we have Cena and Diddle, both quite scummy and hard to trust.

Sigh, I really believe it could go either way but obviously if we let this go to a no lynch Pmc will get killed which will bring us no input whatsoever. I'm gonna go ahead and trust Nag, as I think the second option is a bit more likely and if I'm wrong at least Nag will be cheered up a bit

Vote Spiesr

by **nagerous** on Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:58 am

I was thinking if spiesr was not mafia there would have been a quick hammer, as a spiesr lynch would give the mafia the game... there would be 2 mafia on this wagon and ga7 is a cleared townie so spiesr in my views is a high chance of being maf so I'll go ahead an hammer his ass...

vote spiesr

by **ga7** on Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:03 am

It's 4 to lynch actually... But yeah, I think at least one more would have voted.

by **spiesr** on Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:25 am

I am a townie, you are about to lose, what more can I say?

by **The1exile** on Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:44 am

Vote Count
Spiesr: ga7, cena-rules, nagerous (3)
Not voting: Spiesr, pmchugh, diddle (3)

by **The1exile** on Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:44 am

ga7 wrote:It's 4 to lynch actually... But yeah, I think at least one more would have voted.

The frenchy speaks truthfully.

by **diddle** on Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:19 pm

spiesr wrote:I am a townie, you are about to lose, what more can I say?

But you suggested we lynch cena, who also claimed townie.

Vote Spiesr

by **pmchugh** on Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:53 pm

Just to make double sure, we dont want a repeat senario vote spiesr.

nag wrote:I was thinking if spiesr was not mafia there would have been a quick hammer, as a spiesr lynch would give the mafia the game... there would be 2 mafia on this wagon and ga7 is a cleared townie so spiesr in my views is a high chance of being maf so I'll go ahead an hammer his ass...

Not if cena and you were scum.

This may be my last post as I have a slight feeling I may die tonight, not sure why though. Win the game for me town eh?

by **spiesr** on Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:17 pm

You don't have to worry about that, because this game is over...

C9 game - Mafia wins!

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