Avatar, The Last Airbender - Game over

by **pancakemix** on Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:22 pm

I don't think ace is as bad as people make him out to be. Granted, I haven't seen a whole lot of him, but he usually just gets attacked.

by **jnd94** on Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:27 pm

vote daydream

First he wants ace to claim at -4, then when it is decided that ace is probably telling the truth, he backs off.

Just like a newer player mafia would play it out. Not trying to stand out from the crowd.

by **nagerous** on Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:36 pm

ga7 wrote:Unvote Vote Nag he doesn't love me anymore
I doubt Toph could be left out as a fakeclaim, so yeah Ace is town. I'd like to say that people overreacted and bandwagonned on an obvious townie, but... Well, it is Ace.

Where did you get that idea from? I tried to say hi on msn, but my msn is playing up major... can't get any messages through on it for some reason.

by **FloresDelMal** on Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:39 pm

since i unvoted ace, im going for the second best thing: vote skoffin

by **Shadowstar** on Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:37 pm

Unvote in light of the claim.

I don't pay too much attention to newer Mafia players and their behaviors these days... I really should.

Though I do get what you are saying about daydream... Not sure if it's enough for a lynch, but it's at least enough to build pressure. Vote daydream

by **F1fth** on Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:54 pm

Unvote. Obviously if there's no counterclaim to Toph, then we got a confirmed townie. Not a doubt in my mind.

And I agree the call for a claim was early, but how else could that have ended? People grumbling about the ace bandwagon are doing the same thing to the (consequently new) Daydream. If you have a problem with one, shouldn't you have a problem with the other?

by **daydream** on Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:00 pm

pancakemix wrote:
daydream wrote:unvote, since the Toph claim seems fitting.

pancakemix wrote:Fos Daydream because asking for a claim at -4 is a little... early, methinks.

help me out here, i've seen Fos few times, and havent quite figured out what it stands for :S
and please, daydream with a small d

You'll probably end up as dd anyway.

works great for me

jnd94 wrote:vote daydream

First he wants ace to claim at -4, then when it is decided that ace is probably telling the truth, he backs off.

Just like a newer player mafia would play it out. Not trying to stand out from the crowd.

thats probably because i am new to your group of players

and why would i not back off? that would be a lot stupider, since the claim is solid. but dont worry, i am not afraid of standing out. just making a point here that your argument makes no sense.

by **Fircoal** on Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:27 pm

daydream wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
daydream wrote:unvote, since the Toph claim seems fitting.

pancakemix wrote:Fos Daydream because asking for a claim at -4 is a little... early, methinks.

help me out here, i've seen Fos few times, and havent quite figured out what it stands for :S
and please, daydream with a small d

You'll probably end up as dd anyway.

works great for me

jnd94 wrote:vote daydream

First he wants ace to claim at -4, then when it is decided that ace is probably telling the truth, he backs off.

Just like a newer player mafia would play it out. Not trying to stand out from the crowd.

thats probably because i am new to your group of players
and why would i not back off? that would be a lot stupider, since the claim is solid. but dont worry, i am not afraid of standing out. just making a point here that your argument makes no sense.

dd, makes a good point. That argument doesn't have any weight. Who wouldn't back off, and as F1fth said it was going to happen anyway. I was actually thinking he'd get hammared before he even got to claim. :lol:

So I really don't see anything wrong with it. Especially if he didn't know it was lynch -4.

by **pancakemix** on Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:24 am

That's why I reserve my vote for matters of importance. Like kwan. :mrgreen:

Really, though, he ought to be paying attention to what's going on in the game. When the vote count says 6 and on the same page you ask for a claim, that's being a bit too lenient. I'll lay off this time because it's Day 1 and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, but don't expect any more of the same later on.

by **nagerous** on Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:05 am

william18 wrote:Yeah ace claim seems good, and there isn't anyone to counter claim.

Plus

unvote

since the vote of F1fth is getting old now.

Was your random vote really getting that old or did you just want to submarine and get your name off the voting list and not arouse suspicion to yourself?? Also, not getting involved in any of the bandwagons/votes making vague neutral comments not really contributing to the dynamic and repeating stuff mentioned by others such as the one bolded.

Congratulations mate, you just made number one on the Nagerous FOS list.

by **cena-rules** on Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:36 am

Ok so we have ace as town

I cant believe no-one questioned this

gimpyThewonder wrote:unvote vote skoffin

i believe you to be scum young lady

any reasons gimpy????

by **Skoffin** on Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:34 am

unvote ace

It's pretty much common sense that if someone has a solid claim and everyone believes them to be town then you should get off them. Which is why I'm wondering about Jnd, seems a bit of a silly comment to come from him, so makes me wonder if he was attempting to get an easy target bandwagoned.

And considering how quick bandwagons have been going lately (where people have even lynched before hearing a claim) I see nothing wrong with getting the claim at L-4.

Now would be the time for looking at who may stand out and work out who scum could be, yet I cannot help noticing flores is bandwagoning yet again. Why is that?

by **william18** on Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:02 am

nagerous wrote:
william18 wrote:Yeah ace claim seems good, and there isn't anyone to counter claim.

Plus

unvote

since the vote of F1fth is getting old now.

Was your random vote really getting that old or did you just want to submarine and get your name off the voting list and not arouse suspicion to yourself?? Also, not getting involved in any of the bandwagons/votes making vague neutral comments not really contributing to the dynamic and repeating stuff mentioned by others such as the one bolded.

Congratulations mate, you just made number one on the Nagerous FOS list.

Here children, is a prime example of thinking to hard,and to answer your question it's only 7 pages in, and people are still joke voting like flores,gimpy but for some reason you overlook them and try to shine the spotlight on me for unvoting.

by **Fircoal** on Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:54 am

william18 wrote:
nagerous wrote:
william18 wrote:Yeah ace claim seems good, and there isn't anyone to counter claim.

Plus

unvote

since the vote of F1fth is getting old now.

Was your random vote really getting that old or did you just want to submarine and get your name off the voting list and not arouse suspicion to yourself?? Also, not getting involved in any of the bandwagons/votes making vague neutral comments not really contributing to the dynamic and repeating stuff mentioned by others such as the one bolded.

Congratulations mate, you just made number one on the Nagerous FOS list.

Here children, is a prime example of thinking to hard,and to answer your question it's only 7 pages in, and people are still joke voting like flores,gimpy but for some reason you overlook them and try to shine the spotlight on me for unvoting.

It's still day 1 on page 8, joke voting is still common. Especially depending on who. For example, you could see me joke vote on day 5, and it wouldn't be anything surprising. :lol:

by **FloresDelMal** on Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:33 pm

Skoffin wrote:
Now would be the time for looking at who may stand out and work out who scum could be, yet I cannot help noticing flores is bandwagoning yet again. Why is that? [/color]

relax is day 1, i doubt you will lynched without claim in this game too *smirk* but then i cant guarantee anything *giggles* im just having fun, is day 1, im likely to vote hop a bit more.

by **kwanton** on Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:38 pm

Toph would not be a fake claim. Unless we have the meanest mod ever.
unvote no lynch :lol:

by **Thezzaruz** on Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:25 pm

ga7 wrote:Vote Jayfin because I feel he has the best potential as a day 1 lynch candidate

Since Jayfin ain't around any more you care to revise that? :mrgreen:

by **Fircoal** on Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:44 pm

Thezzaruz wrote:
ga7 wrote:Vote Jayfin because I feel he has the best potential as a day 1 lynch candidate

Since Jayfin ain't around any more you care to revise that?

He has. XD

by **Thezzaruz** on Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:19 pm

Fircoal wrote:He has. XD

Only place I didn't focus was when I confirmed, ofc that was where he unvoted. #-o

by **FloresDelMal** on Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:01 pm

unvote vote nag for put such a wanker topless shot as his avatar, who do you think you fool by holding a newspaper? everyone knows you cant read

by **gimpyThewonder** on Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:36 pm

cena-rules wrote:Ok so we have ace as town

I cant believe no-one questioned this

gimpyThewonder wrote:unvote vote skoffin

i believe you to be scum young lady

any reasons gimpy????

I do have reasons, thank you for asking.
and no william it wasn't a joke vote.

Reasons are thus (and to be fair its more of that feeling you get on the scumdar): Skoffin was in the middle of the pack on the early wagon on ace (who judging by what i'm reading in this game is fairly new to this game, at least here), I alwas become suspicious of people in the middle b/c its the best place to hide your vote if you're scum. Add to that her reaction when someone (i forget who, w/ a 4moth old baby you forget much) called her a submariner an pretty big over-reaction for something that unless her playing style changed drastically in the last 4 months is probably true. the combination of the 2 set off some alarms and since its day 1 w/ no real leads i think its as solid a foundation as we've yet seen.

oh and ga7 love the new avy Hellsing is an alltime favorite of mine which i watch w/ subtitles instead of dub btw

by **Skoffin** on Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:26 am

Ha! Normally I would agree with the middle of a lynch voters, but you are far off the mark on this one. (And I wouldn't exactly call the 3rd vote in the middle anyway)

And that person was Ace himself, he voted me within 14 hours of the game starting for 'lurking'. Now, it's hard to see sarcasm through the net so I guess you didn't see it that way, but I returned a silly vote for him for voting me for such a nonsensical reason. And by the time he voted me a bandwagon had already started on myself. Then he unvotes, and a short time later bandwagons on me again for a silly reason. Apparently I'm not the only person who saw his actions as suspiscious.

by **mandalorian2298** on Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:51 am

F1fth wrote:Unvote. Obviously if there's no counterclaim to Toph, then we got a confirmed townie. Not a doubt in my mind.

To all of you who follow this school of though, here's an interesting line from the rules section:

Sierra Leon wrote:Scum are given safe-claims.

You can not decide that someone is innocent based on his claim and/or lack of counter-claim if scum were given safe claims, you bunch of ninnies! :roll:

My vote stays on Ace since: a) I think that he's scum and if he is it will lead to proving Flores' scumminess, b) his subsequent submarrining didn't give me much reason to change my mind.

by **jnd94** on Sun Sep 21, 2008 8:09 am

That is true. However, I think that this Toph character is important enough that it wouldn't be a just a safe claim. It seems like an important role.

by **Shadowstar** on Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:19 am

Agreed with jnd. Toph is one of the main characters in the series, and unless SL was a bastard with the setup, I'd think Toph is a bit too important of a character to be a good fakeclaim. :/

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