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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby trapyoung on Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:58 pm

joecoolfrog wrote:What the US clearly needs is more guns, more evangelical preachers and a return to legalised slavery....... the old values are the best 8-)


amen :D
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby cutebastard71 on Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:14 pm

joecoolfrog wrote:What the US clearly needs is more guns, more evangelical preachers and a return to legalised slavery....... the old values are the best 8-)


That was Romans thought but then the bad ***censored*** from Asia ganged up on them :) j/k
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby ksslemp on Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:23 pm

joecoolfrog wrote:What the US clearly needs is more guns, more evangelical preachers and a return to legalised slavery....... the old values are the best 8-)


Put down the "Blunt" and pick up a book some time!

No need to respond, im pretty sure your answer will be.... BAA BAA
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby Backglass on Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:27 pm

ksslemp wrote:Put down the "Blunt" and pick up a book some time!


They have books in backwoods Kentucky?

Wow...How can you read them at night without electricity? :lol:
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby Neoteny on Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:29 pm

ksslemp wrote:
joecoolfrog wrote:What the US clearly needs is more guns, more evangelical preachers and a return to legalised slavery....... the old values are the best 8-)


Put down the "Blunt" and pick up a book some time!

No need to respond, im pretty sure your answer will be.... BAA BAA
Friggin' sheep.


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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby Frigidus on Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:53 pm

ksslemp wrote:Everyone should vote for him because he belongs to a church that hates "whitey"! si se puede



If I were to judge presidents on the ridiculousness of their faith, then we'd have a truck load of f*ck ups.
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby InkL0sed on Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:05 pm

Also, why can't you say "Yes we can" in English? I don't get it -- what are you trying to insinuate, exactly?
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby Nobunaga on Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:58 pm

... A few of changes to look forward to:

... Joining some international cap n' trade carbon credit regime.
... Nationalized cap n' trade system wherein we have to buy carbon credits if we drive "too much".
... Higher gasoline prices.
... Nationwide 55mph speed limit
... Iranian invasion of Iraq after we leave (I give that one about a 50% chance)
... Higher taxes (by far)
... Spread and increase in frequency of cases of tuberculosis, especially in the southwest

...
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby ksslemp on Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:24 pm

Backglass wrote:
ksslemp wrote:Put down the "Blunt" and pick up a book some time!


They have books in backwoods Kentucky?

Wow...How can you read them at night without electricity? :lol:


The clan tells us where they're going to light a cross and we bring our books to study while our parents hoot and holler!

of course.
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby ksslemp on Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:30 pm

Neoteny wrote:
ksslemp wrote:
joecoolfrog wrote:What the US clearly needs is more guns, more evangelical preachers and a return to legalised slavery....... the old values are the best 8-)


Put down the "Blunt" and pick up a book some time!

No need to respond, im pretty sure your answer will be.... BAA BAA
Friggin' sheep.


"You give them books and what do they do with them?, They eat the pages!"


What's with the colors? Understimulated?


I always thought Black was a color.... that's what i get for thinking. :-P

You should see a therapist for your Chromatophobia
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby tzor on Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:39 pm

ksslemp wrote:I always thought Black was a color.... that's what i get for thinking. :-P


Under the rules of Heraldric Tincture black (sable) is indeed a color. White (argent), on the other hand is a metal.
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby ksslemp on Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:41 pm

InkL0sed wrote:Also, why can't you say "Yes we can" in English? I don't get it -- what are you trying to insinuate, exactly?



I think this question should be posed to OBAMA.

I dont get it either, the only thing i can think of is that he wants an America that is divided along Racial lines?
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby gdeangel on Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:54 pm

He would be just like Nixon, only liberal. He would spy on his opponents... Launch a program of "iraqamization" that drags on through a second term... and build up a monsterous self-protecting organization within the Democratic party that black-balls the Clintonites and the moderates.
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby Hologram on Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:26 am

InkL0sed wrote:Also, why can't you say "Yes we can" in English? I don't get it -- what are you trying to insinuate, exactly?
It's clearly a political move to try to bring in the hispanic vote, because we all know that the mexicans hate the blacks (original words in head replaced in good taste)
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby HapSmo19 on Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:02 am

InkL0sed wrote:Yeah I kinda hate whitey too.


Another fine display of intelligence by the french high school junior.
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby got tonkaed on Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:13 am

Nobunaga wrote:... A few of changes to look forward to:

... Joining some international cap n' trade carbon credit regime.
... Nationalized cap n' trade system wherein we have to buy carbon credits if we drive "too much".
... Higher gasoline prices.
... Nationwide 55mph speed limit
... Iranian invasion of Iraq after we leave (I give that one about a 50% chance)
... Higher taxes (by far)
... Spread and increase in frequency of cases of tuberculosis, especially in the southwest

...


im fairly confident that the first three might have happened either way in the near future, and really your trading higher taxes for less debt instead of the other way around.
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby Nobunaga on Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:46 am

got tonkaed wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:... A few of changes to look forward to:

... Joining some international cap n' trade carbon credit regime.
... Nationalized cap n' trade system wherein we have to buy carbon credits if we drive "too much".
... Higher gasoline prices.
... Nationwide 55mph speed limit
... Iranian invasion of Iraq after we leave (I give that one about a 50% chance)
... Higher taxes (by far)
... Spread and increase in frequency of cases of tuberculosis, especially in the southwest

...


im fairly confident that the first three might have happened either way in the near future, and really your trading higher taxes for less debt instead of the other way around.


... Explain your confidence in the first two happening either way. (the 3rd I won't argue).

...
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby Frigidus on Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:26 am

Nobunaga wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:... A few of changes to look forward to:

... Joining some international cap n' trade carbon credit regime.
... Nationalized cap n' trade system wherein we have to buy carbon credits if we drive "too much".
... Higher gasoline prices.
... Nationwide 55mph speed limit
... Iranian invasion of Iraq after we leave (I give that one about a 50% chance)
... Higher taxes (by far)
... Spread and increase in frequency of cases of tuberculosis, especially in the southwest

...


im fairly confident that the first three might have happened either way in the near future, and really your trading higher taxes for less debt instead of the other way around.


... Explain your confidence in the first two happening either way. (the 3rd I won't argue).

...


It's only a matter of time before we go into panic mode oil wise. We might not run out for a while, but there are too many things we do with oil aside from using it to drive around for us to just fritter away the supplies we have left.
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby tzor on Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:34 am

ksslemp wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:Also, why can't you say "Yes we can" in English? I don't get it -- what are you trying to insinuate, exactly?



I think this question should be posed to OBAMA.


Before you make a mountain our of a molehill, he originally translated the expression to Latin, "Vero Possumus."

(He didn't do it all that well, but that's another matter.)

His offical candidate "seal" has what he calls that motto in Latin on it, like the seal of the US has "E Pluribus Unum."
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby InkL0sed on Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:18 am

HapSmo19 wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:Yeah I kinda hate whitey too.


Another fine display of intelligence by the french high school junior.


Another fine display of ignorance by the friendly neighborhood valley girl. :roll:
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby got tonkaed on Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:59 pm

Nobunaga wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:... A few of changes to look forward to:

... Joining some international cap n' trade carbon credit regime.
... Nationalized cap n' trade system wherein we have to buy carbon credits if we drive "too much".
... Higher gasoline prices.
... Nationwide 55mph speed limit
... Iranian invasion of Iraq after we leave (I give that one about a 50% chance)
... Higher taxes (by far)
... Spread and increase in frequency of cases of tuberculosis, especially in the southwest

...


im fairly confident that the first three might have happened either way in the near future, and really your trading higher taxes for less debt instead of the other way around.


... Explain your confidence in the first two happening either way. (the 3rd I won't argue).

...


As far as i remember, Mccain isnt against cap and trade. Even if it wouldnt immediately happen in his presidency, setting a precedent toward cap and trade makes it rather likely that international agreements would follow. Though of course its possible the promise made wouldnt be followed through on, it still seems possible we are heading toward that to begin with.

The second seems to follow rather naturally from the first, especially if you consider the likelyhood that anything involving international agreements would pressure toward nationalization at somepoint anyway. I dont believe the second would be an immediate consequence of a Mccain election, but im not sure it would be an immediate consequence of an Obama one either.

You could argue the two wouldnt happen with Mccain, but im not sure i believe it entirely to be the case. It would probalby be more of a wait and see with Mccain.

Either way its not my biggest issue with him but i think on a lot of issues there is less practical difference than is originally suggested.
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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby Nobunaga on Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:06 am

got tonkaed wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:
Nobunaga wrote:... A few of changes to look forward to:

... Joining some international cap n' trade carbon credit regime.
... Nationalized cap n' trade system wherein we have to buy carbon credits if we drive "too much".
... Higher gasoline prices.
... Nationwide 55mph speed limit
... Iranian invasion of Iraq after we leave (I give that one about a 50% chance)
... Higher taxes (by far)
... Spread and increase in frequency of cases of tuberculosis, especially in the southwest

...


im fairly confident that the first three might have happened either way in the near future, and really your trading higher taxes for less debt instead of the other way around.


... Explain your confidence in the first two happening either way. (the 3rd I won't argue).

...


As far as i remember, Mccain isnt against cap and trade. Even if it wouldnt immediately happen in his presidency, setting a precedent toward cap and trade makes it rather likely that international agreements would follow. Though of course its possible the promise made wouldnt be followed through on, it still seems possible we are heading toward that to begin with.

The second seems to follow rather naturally from the first, especially if you consider the likelyhood that anything involving international agreements would pressure toward nationalization at somepoint anyway. I dont believe the second would be an immediate consequence of a Mccain election, but im not sure it would be an immediate consequence of an Obama one either.

You could argue the two wouldnt happen with Mccain, but im not sure i believe it entirely to be the case. It would probalby be more of a wait and see with Mccain.

Either way its not my biggest issue with him but i think on a lot of issues there is less practical difference than is originally suggested.


... I'll buy that.

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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby HapSmo19 on Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:17 am

InkL0sed wrote:Another fine display of ignorance by the friendly neighborhood valley girl. :roll:



:lol: . <-----period.

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Re: What "change" would Obama actually make?

Postby Nobunaga on Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:50 pm

ABC's Jake Tapper: Obama Thinks He's President; Denies Media Access
By Scott Whitlock | July 24, 2008 - 15:38


Not every reporter covering Barack Obama's world tour is entranced by the words and imagery of the Democratic candidate. On Thursday's "Good Morning America," political correspondent Jake Tapper jabbed at Obama's overconfidence, describing the senator's July 24 speech in Berlin as "one the Obama campaign is billing at almost presidential. Even though he is not the president."

Reporting from inside the Obama plane, Tapper complained in a snarky tone, "Inside, the plane has been redesigned to separate the senator and his staff from us lowly reporters." He added that Obama officials told journalists that they could brief reporters as anonymous officials. Tapper grumbled, "One of them said that's what we did at the White House during the Clinton years. We pointed out they don't work at the White House." Regarding the Obama plane, the ABC journalist also pointed out: "The American flag on the tail wing has been replaced by an enormous Obama O."
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