The Multiverse and UFO technology

[suggs]

Disappointing you had to pick me up on the haystack joke

What nonsense - I mean, MAYBE some of them have a "primary directive".
But all of them? Over thousands of years.
Its like time travel -surely we would have seen a time traveller by now.

Until they get there act together, and stop appearing solely to stoned rednecks and crazed ex-CIA agents, I'm afraid you have to conclude:

1)Aliens are total losers who can't sort out a simple orienteering project.
2)They don't exist.

I'll leave em out a compass, maybe that would help.

[Juan_Bottom]

Why can't the aliens stop messing about and make a proper landing, maybe a few ships in all the major capitals of the world.
Frankly, I'm sick of their amateurish "Lets land in a haystack in Arizona" approach.
Amazing how they found a haystack in Arizona.

I agree. Quite AMAZING that they could even find a haystack in Arizona, as hay is not a very big industry there...

Have you ever thought that they have a Primary Directive like on Star Trek? That they stay away from interfering directly with our sovereignty and evolution?

Honestly, it's what we would do.

Thanks for switching the topic. Makes it more of a discussion about what-ifs, and less of an argument about who's talking crazy.

Suggs are you familier at all with the Soviet's Project Blue Book(I am aware that we also had one of the same name)?

[DaGip]

Disappointing you had to pick me up on the haystack joke

What nonsense - I mean, MAYBE some of them have a "primary directive".
But all of them? Over thousands of years.
Its like time travel -surely we would have seen a time traveller by now.

Until they get there act together, and stop appearing solely to stoned rednecks and crazed ex-CIA agents, I'm afraid you have to conclude:

1)Aliens are total losers who can't sort out a simple orienteering project.
2)They don't exist.

I'll leave em out a compass, maybe that would help.

Yeah, there is probably at least one Alien race that doesn't give a flying shit about humans and just wants to take the entire Earth and its resources for their own race! Hopefully, we got some Alien allies that help us out behind the scene and keep them at bay...

[Juan_Bottom]

I only read the nonsense about sequences of 10 (it caught my eye). Obviously you are unaware of the fact that our base-10 counting system is rather arbitrary. It could be base 16, where the "overlap" would start at 17, or hell, maybe binary, where it starts at 3.

I think that was copy/pasted.

Oh good. Perhaps you could explain the theory of 11 dimensions overlapping each other with gravity escaping the 11th one and leaking into ours?

[suggs]

So, basically, you think Star Trek is real.
Bagsy me Picard!

[Juan_Bottom]

Disappointing you had to pick me up on the haystack joke

What nonsense - I mean, MAYBE some of them have a "primary directive".
But all of them? Over thousands of years.
Its like time travel -surely we would have seen a time traveller by now.

Until they get there act together, and stop appearing solely to stoned rednecks and crazed ex-CIA agents, I'm afraid you have to conclude:

1)Aliens are total losers who can't sort out a simple orienteering project.
2)They don't exist.

I'll leave em out a compass, maybe that would help.

Yeah, there is probably at least one Alien race that doesn't give a flying shit about humans and just wants to take the entire Earth and its resources for their own race! Hopefully, we got some Alien allies that help us out behind the scene and keep them at bay...

That HALO guy says that aliens are the us-es from another dimension. They can't kill us without killing themselves.

But seriously, why destroy another civilization that is vastly inferior to your own? What's the reward?

[Ditocoaf]

[quote="suggs"]Its like time travel -surely we would have seen a time traveller by now./quote]
It all comes from the folly of thinking of "time" like another spacial dimension, in which we're stuck moving one-way. Time is not a spacial dimension, in any way. Time is just a measurement of the order things happen in. Things move... if time was just another dimension, everything would have to just be.

[Ditocoaf]

But seriously, why destroy another civilization that is vastly inferior to your own? What's the reward?

Take the land, use it for your own civilization.

Have you never looked at any history, ever?

[suggs]

Its like time travel -surely we would have seen a time traveller by now./quote]
It all comes from the folly of thinking of "time" like another spacial dimension, in which we're stuck moving one-way. Time is not a spacial dimension, in any way. Time is just a measurement of the order things happen in. Things move... if time was just another dimension, everything would have to just be.

read some philosophy of time -Mctaggart perhaps- or finish your physics degree, then get back to me.

[Juan_Bottom]

But seriously, why destroy another civilization that is vastly inferior to your own? What's the reward?

Take the land, use it for your own civilization.

Have you never looked at any history, ever?

Land doesn't have to be a 'reward.' You're thinking too sci-fi I think.
What if they can't live in our atmosphere? Aliens probably won't be human like. If you have a billion galaxies to choose from, why come here and stamp us out?

[Ditocoaf]

Its like time travel -surely we would have seen a time traveller by now./quote]
It all comes from the folly of thinking of "time" like another spacial dimension, in which we're stuck moving one-way. Time is not a spacial dimension, in any way. Time is just a measurement of the order things happen in. Things move... if time was just another dimension, everything would have to just be.

read some philosophy of time -Mctaggart perhaps- or finish your physics degree, then get back to me.

Sorry?

But seriously, why destroy another civilization that is vastly inferior to your own? What's the reward?

Take the land, use it for your own civilization.

Have you never looked at any history, ever?

Land doesn't have to be a 'reward.' You're thinking too sci-fi I think.
What if they can't live in our atmosphere? Aliens probably won't be human like. If you have a billion galaxies to choose from, why come here and stamp us out?

nah, I was thinking too settlement-of-the-americas, I think. But your'e right... since there are a lot of uninhabited planets; they have no reason to mess with us.

[InkL0sed]

I only read the nonsense about sequences of 10 (it caught my eye). Obviously you are unaware of the fact that our base-10 counting system is rather arbitrary. It could be base 16, where the "overlap" would start at 17, or hell, maybe binary, where it starts at 3.

I think that was copy/pasted.

Oh good. Perhaps you could explain the theory of 11 dimensions overlapping each other with gravity escaping the 11th one and leaking into ours?

Considering I know nothing of that theory, no I couldn't. But what does that have to do with anything? DaGip was using some pseudo-scientific way of trying to prove said theory, by spewing some nonsense about sequences of numbers, and 11 overlapping or some such. When really 11 as a quantity doesn't overlap anything. It can be expressed many ways -- 1011 (binary), 13 (base-8), to name just a few.

[Juan_Bottom]

I only read the nonsense about sequences of 10 (it caught my eye). Obviously you are unaware of the fact that our base-10 counting system is rather arbitrary. It could be base 16, where the "overlap" would start at 17, or hell, maybe binary, where it starts at 3.

I think that was copy/pasted.

Oh good. Perhaps you could explain the theory of 11 dimensions overlapping each other with gravity escaping the 11th one and leaking into ours?

Considering I know nothing of that theory, no I couldn't. But what does that have to do with anything? DaGip was using some pseudo-scientific way of trying to prove said theory, by spewing some nonsense about sequences of numbers, and 11 overlapping or some such. When really 11 as a quantity doesn't overlap anything. It can be expressed many ways -- 1011 (binary), 13 (base-8), to name just a few.

You know, math is my weakest subject by a mile. I couldn't say if he gave us a complete definition there or not. But! I do understand that the only reason the theory of multiple dimensions has been supported is because of the math involved. I don't know who's right here, but DaGip must at least be on track.

[DaGip]

Its like time travel -surely we would have seen a time traveller by now./quote]
It all comes from the folly of thinking of "time" like another spacial dimension, in which we're stuck moving one-way. Time is not a spacial dimension, in any way. Time is just a measurement of the order things happen in. Things move... if time was just another dimension, everything would have to just be.

Actual time is not as we humans interpret it: such as 1 O'clock or 5:16 PM...but you are correct that the concept of time is relative to spacial qualities of matter, and anything that moves through space is also moving through time.

Time is an all encompassing factor, one that exists in an instant. So what you get is the Big Bang existing at the same time as everything else. The Big Bang is still banging away...infinitely so. If it wasn't for the multi-spacial fabric in which we exist, all there would be is a blur of energy, like a giant White Hole. But because of the reflective principal of space and time, the energy from the Big Bang (s) can be contained within quantum reservoirs.

The Big Bang itself was never Big and it was definitely NOT a Bang. It was a small release of energy that was reflected throughout the Universe/Multiverse all at the same time, that is the only thing that makes it Big is this infinite reflecting principle. Each Impulse Event (which science has wrongly named the Big Bang) happens instantaneously at the same time at an equidistant location from each other and never touching, but through expansion and contraction is able to grow and come closer and closer together. Those parts of the Universe that come so close together begin to punch through the Universe via a perceived Black Hole...a Vacuum.

So our Universe (and the Multiverse) exist via Impulse and Vacuum events. One of which is infinite energy while the other becomes infinite anti-energy or zero-point energy. This is where the principles of thermodynamics and magnetism begin to make sense.

Think of Space/Time as water. What does water do when it is heated up? It boils and vibrates, so matter is actually at a boiling state of space and time, and these bubbles are actually subatomic particles that slip in and out of our Universe and appear in other Universes instantaneously.

If you heat up water too much, it turns into steam and drifts off. Same thing with matter, if you heat it up, magnetism quits working and matter doesn't hold together and drifts off into Vacuum. And as matter drifts off into Vacuum, it begins to cool down again and the principles of magnetism and thermodynamics come back into play, and matter begins to come together again forming nebulae and new stars and new matter until the density increase so much and the heat from this massive crunch of material comes to light again, then again magnetism fails and matter drifts off through Vacuum (what we call a Black Hole) and enters into another Universe when it begins to cool off again. This process happens over and over and it is a observable model of what the Big Bang was and still is.

This process is not only happening on a Macroscopic scale, but on the Microscopic scale as well.

[InkL0sed]

I only read the nonsense about sequences of 10 (it caught my eye). Obviously you are unaware of the fact that our base-10 counting system is rather arbitrary. It could be base 16, where the "overlap" would start at 17, or hell, maybe binary, where it starts at 3.

I think that was copy/pasted.

Oh good. Perhaps you could explain the theory of 11 dimensions overlapping each other with gravity escaping the 11th one and leaking into ours?

Considering I know nothing of that theory, no I couldn't. But what does that have to do with anything? DaGip was using some pseudo-scientific way of trying to prove said theory, by spewing some nonsense about sequences of numbers, and 11 overlapping or some such. When really 11 as a quantity doesn't overlap anything. It can be expressed many ways -- 1011 (binary), 13 (base-8), to name just a few.

You know, math is my weakest subject by a mile. I couldn't say if he gave us a complete definition there or not. But! I do understand that the only reason the theory of multiple dimensions has been supported is because of the math involved. I don't know who's right here, but DaGip must at least be on track.

There are certainly many theories about multiple dimensions. DaGip, however, is not on the right track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o

[Juan_Bottom]

There are certainly many theories about multiple dimensions. DaGip, however, is not on the right track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o

I'll have to leave it at that, I can't watch YouTube videos . There's almost no point in having internet access without it.

[DaGip]

I only read the nonsense about sequences of 10 (it caught my eye). Obviously you are unaware of the fact that our base-10 counting system is rather arbitrary. It could be base 16, where the "overlap" would start at 17, or hell, maybe binary, where it starts at 3.

I think that was copy/pasted.

Oh good. Perhaps you could explain the theory of 11 dimensions overlapping each other with gravity escaping the 11th one and leaking into ours?

Considering I know nothing of that theory, no I couldn't. But what does that have to do with anything? DaGip was using some pseudo-scientific way of trying to prove said theory, by spewing some nonsense about sequences of numbers, and 11 overlapping or some such. When really 11 as a quantity doesn't overlap anything. It can be expressed many ways -- 1011 (binary), 13 (base-8), to name just a few.

You know, math is my weakest subject by a mile. I couldn't say if he gave us a complete definition there or not. But! I do understand that the only reason the theory of multiple dimensions has been supported is because of the math involved. I don't know who's right here, but DaGip must at least be on track.

There are certainly many theories about multiple dimensions. DaGip, however, is not on the right track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o

So says the YouTuber...

[suggs]

These forums crack me up.
All we seem to do is to talk bollocks about aliens, god and lizardmen.

Any chance of CC Chatterbox not being a MASSIVE FUCKING BORING INTERNET CLICHE in the near future?

Christ, the internet -what a backward step for mankind.
"Thats because the secret circle of The Knights Of G.W control it Suggs! Open your eyes so you can waste your life getting stoned and talking juvenile drivel on a mass communication system populated BY FUCKING IDIOTS".

[InkL0sed]

There are certainly many theories about multiple dimensions. DaGip, however, is not on the right track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o

So says the YouTuber...

The irony of that statement is pretty fucking hilarious.

Anyway, those videos are pure logic. Of course, the givens may not necessarily be true, but it's a place to start from, rather than your sequence of numbers from 1-10 somehow explaining why there are 11 dimensions. The only reason we use a base-10 system is because (gasp) we have 10 fingers! The only reason. Nothing to do with the nature of the universe.

[DaGip]

There are certainly many theories about multiple dimensions. DaGip, however, is not on the right track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o

So says the YouTuber...

The irony of that statement is pretty fucking hilarious.

Anyway, those videos are pure logic. Of course, the givens may not necessarily be true, but it's a place to start from, rather than your sequence of numbers from 1-10 somehow explaining why there are 11 dimensions. The only reason we use a base-10 system is because (gasp) we have 10 fingers! The only reason. Nothing to do with the nature of the universe.

Numbers mimic actual tangible principle, I am sorry you are having difficulty understanding; but not everybody can be a super-genius like myself. I do not have my Chaos Theory book anymore, but if I did, I am sure I could look up exactly what I am telling you. And it isn't because we have Ten fingers either. There are certain structures with differing sequences of numbers that relate to geometrical patterns. The fractal principle of the Universe is based on a sequence of 11 that is folded in upon itself (like the videos you grabbed from YouTube).

[InkL0sed]

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

[Juan_Bottom]

These forums crack me up.
All we seem to do is to talk bollocks about aliens, god and lizardmen.

Any chance of CC Chatterbox not being a MASSIVE FUCKING BORING INTERNET CLICHE in the near future?

Christ, the internet -what a backward step for mankind.
"Thats because the secret circle of The Knights Of G.W control it Suggs! Open your eyes so you can waste your life getting stoned and talking juvenile drivel on a mass communication system populated BY FUCKING IDIOTS".

The irony of that statement is pretty fucking hilarious.

That^ goes here too.

[suggs]

yeah, i've wasted too much of my time drivelling, FUCKING WORD.

[Juan_Bottom]

yeah, i've wasted too much of my time drivelling, FUCKING WORD.

[suggs]

yeah, i've wasted too much of my time drivelling, FUCKING WORD.

I was being serious. I'm as bad as the nutters on this place, arguing with fools, what a waste of time.