The Multiverse and UFO technology

[DaGip]

Video taken in Houston, Texas on April, 2008:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=copW7Fn16Ew

[MeDeFe]

Did you see the ET between 0:36 and 0:39? The white, furry one.

[Ditocoaf]

[DaGip]

:lol:

Keep laughin'...

[Juan_Bottom]

Seriously, I just want to say this, because it is the most awesome thing a genious has ever said. About UFO's at least! It's kinda off-topic and I can't even remember his name , but someone here does.... And since I can't watch the video...
Anyway, this is the basics of a story he told on THEPOWERHOUR radio show.



This super-genious co-founder and creator of the HALO spacecraft company, and inventor of plasma-drive, has the best UFO story ever told. Not only does he admit to helping the USAF to further develop saucer technology in the '70s, he also claims that saucers are not space traveling alien ships.
They are dimension travelling ships. Aliens come from another dimension parallel and connected to our own. Simply because these dimensions are connected; While our planet was going through WWII, so was theirs. During their war they had developed dimension travelling. Furhtermore these dimension hopping aliens are constantly contacting world governments. They are frindly, yet the U.S. did capture several of these original saucers that dimension hopped, because they crashed. The Soviets however, shot them down. From there, they were all-about reverse enginering.
Now here is the loony part. He claims that these aliens have their own version of the Bible. But in their version, they are the angels!

Now how does he know this?

He once enjoyed above top-secret clearance while working on flying saucer tech for a private military contractor. He had a falling out with this company in the middle '70s(over plasma-drive) and his US citizenship was revoked, leaving him exiled/left in Australia.

Now he is clearly crazy(crossed fingers )? But! that was a friggin' weird/awesome story he had to tell. Especially since he did have above top-secret clearance. Just because of who he is, you almost want to believe him. And no FYI, I don't believe in aliens visiting earth. I didn't care enough to remember his name.....

[MeDeFe]

They are dimension travelling ships. Aliens come from another dimension parallel and connected to our own.!

What? Parallel AND connected? Isn't that an oxymoron?

[Juan_Bottom]

They are dimension travelling ships. Aliens come from another dimension parallel and connected to our own.!

What? Parallel AND connected? Isn't that an oxymoron?

There are supposedly 12 dimensions that all are pushed up against each other like sheets of paper. You exist in each of these dimensions, and in each you are closer to yourself than you are to your own skin. But because you are a seperate and different you in each dimension, you have different will in each. You are you, but maybe in the third dimension you are a crack-head, in the 7th you are a world-ranked barricuda spear fisherman, and in the 11th you are a trillionair. In this respect, they are all parellel, but connected.

I saw this a program on the discovery of the twelve dimensions on the Discovory Channel. Pretty kick-ass, scientist using mostly math to prove the existance of twelve other dimensions. There may be more, but twelve certainly. i don't understand the math at all, but gravity leaks from the twelth dimension into ours.

I am confusing myself. TZOR , or PLAYER , or NEOTENY , or DAGIP (just to put you all under the gun) are gonna have to explain it better.

That part of his story is acceptable to me, for now.

[ParadiceCity9]

They are dimension travelling ships. Aliens come from another dimension parallel and connected to our own.!

What? Parallel AND connected? Isn't that an oxymoron?

No in this case, parallel has a different meaning: like, alike.

And Juan, there are only 11 dimensions, according to the science channel

But I, too, believe the traveling dimensions part because it was proven possible mathematically.

[Juan_Bottom]

And Juan, there are only 11 dimensions, according to the science channel

Seriously? When did that happen?

Wait, er, when did they change their story? Last I heard there were 12, and gravity came from the 12th. I mean, sure this is really new, but man that was quick.

I don't know about travel between the dimensions, but yeah, it does work on paper. And the HALO guy sure believes it. He did make space travel possible from everybodies backyard, maybe that would be the next logical step. If he doesn't "commit suicide in his mom's back shed."

[strike wolf]

Dangit. I knew I shouldn't have gone joyriding on the 11th.

Anyways. the UFO looked fake to me.

[Juan_Bottom]

Dangit. I knew I shouldn't have gone joyriding on the 11th.

Anyways. the UFO looked fake to me.

I think DAGIP just likes messing with us. Everyone knows that the Arizona lights is the best UFO video ever!

[GabonX]

If you take this guy at his word, which there is absolutely no reason to do, this is amazing footage.

[Neoteny]

They are dimension travelling ships. Aliens come from another dimension parallel and connected to our own.!

What? Parallel AND connected? Isn't that an oxymoron?

There are supposedly 12 dimensions that all are pushed up against each other like sheets of paper. You exist in each of these dimensions, and in each you are closer to yourself than you are to your own skin. But because you are a seperate and different you in each dimension, you have different will in each. You are you, but maybe in the third dimension you are a crack-head, in the 7th you are a world-ranked barricuda spear fisherman, and in the 11th you are a trillionair. In this respect, they are all parellel, but connected.

I saw this a program on the discovery of the twelve dimensions on the Discovory Channel. Pretty kick-ass, scientist using mostly math to prove the existance of twelve other dimensions. There may be more, but twelve certainly. i don't understand the math at all, but gravity leaks from the twelth dimension into ours.

I am confusing myself. TZOR , or PLAYER , or NEOTENY , or DAGIP (just to put you all under the gun) are gonna have to explain it better.

That part of his story is acceptable to me, for now.

About that... theoretical physics is not really my thing. I just like to pretend I know what I'm talking about. I imagine that if we were to see some upper dimensional objects, they would seem a lot stranger that what we typically see in these videos. Also, why hasn't alien saucer tech moved forward much in the last 50-some-odd years?

[Juan_Bottom]

About that... theoretical physics is not really my thing. I just like to pretend I know what I'm talking about. I imagine that if we were to see some upper dimensional objects, they would seem a lot stranger that what we typically see in these videos. Also, why hasn't alien saucer tech moved forward much in the last 50-some-odd years?

Yeah, I'm no theoretical physics wiz either.

Good question. Most of the people who have come forward and said that they have worked on flying saucers say that the government had already abandoned them by the late 70's. People who saw a saucer before then may have actually seen something, but people who see them now are just mostly just crazy.
Can't call all of Phoenix crazy though, I can't dismiss tht one.

While I was in high school I read most of the Soviet Union's Project Blue Book. Really boring, and it didn't translate well. But! It was the conclusion of the Soviet government that aliens were real, and posed a serious threat to security. They shot down 4 over a 15 year period, and lost 80 something pilots in fights with them. Crazy... Anyone else here ever read any of it? Those Soviets really hate aliens.......

I am one of those people who belives that most UFO sightings are just top-secret aircraft, or some type of trickery. But no, I wont just dismiss stories outright. If 20,000 people over four counties in southern Illinois see a two mile long ship floating over them in the middle of the night, I'm not going to just accuse them all of being crazy.

In conclusion, aliens are awesome to talk about, but probably not real.

[Ditocoaf]

Theoretical physics is my thing, or rather, hopefully will be in a few years... I find that stuff fascinating. But right now I'm just about to enter college as a physics major, so I'm still clueless. [/random useless tangent]

[jay_a2j]

I am one of those people who belives that most UFO sightings are just top-secret aircraft, or some type of trickery.

I can agree with this.

If 20,000 people over four counties in southern Illinois see a two mile long ship floating over them in the middle of the night, I'm not going to just accuse them all of being crazy.

To bad that doesn't hold true if 20,000 people said "God is real".

[Juan_Bottom]

To bad that doesn't hold true if 20,000 people said "God is real".

LOL!
Good one Jay. How about this, If 20,000 people see God float over them in Southern Illinois, I'll convert on the spot!

[tzor]

I am confusing myself. TZOR , or PLAYER , or NEOTENY , or DAGIP (just to put you all under the gun) are gonna have to explain it better.

Sorry about the delay, I wasn't really following this thread until now.

I'm not familiar with the discovery program you saw, but I do know there are several multi-dimensional theories out there, including the one that supports string theory. Parallel universes was also an interesting postulated theory, and I don't know if it "intersects" with the multiple universe theory which is currently being proposed to explain the non uniform and somewhat random expansion of the universe over time.

Unfortunately it has been 25 years since I was in college, so I generally hear about these things indirectly and often at college reunions. (Or glancing at journals.)

Perhaps a UFO isn't from a different dimension but from a different time; a time traveling device. That's why it looks the same, because it is really the same ship traveling to different points of space and time. (Of course it could also be the copy cat phenomenon.) I prefer my UFOs to remain "unidentified."

[william18]

I took the liberty of watching some more of that guys video's.


One of them is the story of a guy who got abducted weekly for 19 years! The aliens started giving him rewards like walking around the space craft, timkering with gadgtes and so on. After six years of grualig alien experimentation they tought him basic telepathy, but he can only communicate to the alians that way. It's amazing.

[DaGip]

I am confusing myself. TZOR , or PLAYER , or NEOTENY , or DAGIP (just to put you all under the gun) are gonna have to explain it better.

Sorry about the delay, I wasn't really following this thread until now.

I'm not familiar with the discovery program you saw, but I do know there are several multi-dimensional theories out there, including the one that supports string theory. Parallel universes was also an interesting postulated theory, and I don't know if it "intersects" with the multiple universe theory which is currently being proposed to explain the non uniform and somewhat random expansion of the universe over time.

Unfortunately it has been 25 years since I was in college, so I generally hear about these things indirectly and often at college reunions. (Or glancing at journals.)

Perhaps a UFO isn't from a different dimension but from a different time; a time traveling device. That's why it looks the same, because it is really the same ship traveling to different points of space and time. (Of course it could also be the copy cat phenomenon.) I prefer my UFOs to remain "unidentified."

I have always thought there were a basic 11 dimensions, not actually 12. There actually are supposed to be an infinite number of dimensions, but they are just folded over and into each other, so, for mathematical purposes, all dimensions can be explained using the 11 dimension model.

The first 3 are what you are familiar with, the 4th is time, and the other 7 dimensions are folded into subatomic particles. From these 11 dimensions, apparently everything in the Universe can be stemmed from.

Now I know that quantum physicists used to use a 10 dimensional model, but they couldn't get the model to fold, so they added an 11th dimension and their mathematical models began to fold in and grow. It was a step into Chaos Theory...

The principle is actually fairly simple to understand as you can see from a sequence of numbers:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14,...

As you can see, the number 11 begins a new sequence. The number line can be divided in sequences of 10 but the sequences of 11 overlap each other on the number line at 11, 22, 33, 44, 55, 66, 77, 88, 99...and then after that you start to get numbers that look like this: 110, 121, 132,143...and so on. It begins to look more and more chaotic, but in actuality, they are just an continuation of the sequence of 11.

Scientists can always add other dimensions into their models, but basically, all you need is 11 dimensions to explain the Universe.

My understanding is that the entire Universe is a reflection of itself, but in different infinite stages of existence. So that the Sun in our solar system is only a reflection of Betelgeuse in the constellation of Orion, or every other star for that matter. And then each galaxy is a reflection of each another galaxy. The Earth, in turn, is a reflection of each and every other planet/moon, they are just sitting in different dimensional time lines apart from us, and of their own volition and future.

The same goes for living creatures, each evolutionary time line continues on reflecting each other, but yet they grow separately. We all exist within a Multi-verse of probabilities. And since probabilities in the Universe MUST occur, then it stands to reason that the insect-like creatures eventually evolved into something that seems like an alien to us, or the dinosaurs perhaps had an offshoot that was humanoid and took off for space somewhere in the Universe. You might end up discovering that there are as many alien species flying around in space as there are sands upon the shores of all the Oceans in the world! But yet, they may exist in other Universes, that are separate from us.

If the Multi-verse theories are correct, then our population problems could easily be solved; because that means that there are infinite numbers of similar Earth-like planets and solar systems that exist in another Universe. If we could slip through that 11 dimensional skin, we could visit another earth, perhaps one that doesn't have any humans on it! We could easily solve the overpopulation problem without having to kill billions of people on the planet, just slip people off into another dimensional facsimile of our own planet and solar system.

Oh, if you would all only vote for DaGip for world emperor...

[Juan_Bottom]

i dont think dagip copy pasted that......................

i think i have to vote him emporer now....... im speechless...............

[DaGip]

I know this is probably falling off topic (so I will switch topic to conform to what is being talked about now), but it does have to do with UFO technology. You have to have a good understanding of Multiverses and Chaos Theory to be able to even obtain the type of technology that UFOs are supposed to be using. So here is a three part video on the Multiverse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t46oqx08VE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPipTsM3 ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Te_KIPZ ... re=related

[suggs]

Why can't the aliens stop messing about and make a proper landing, maybe a few ships in all the major capitals of the world.
Frankly, I'm sick of their amateurish "Lets land in a haystack in Arizona" approach.
Amazing how they found a haystack in Arizona.

[DaGip]

Why can't the aliens stop messing about and make a proper landing, maybe a few ships in all the major capitals of the world.
Frankly, I'm sick of their amateurish "Lets land in a haystack in Arizona" approach.
Amazing how they found a haystack in Arizona.

I agree. Quite AMAZING that they could even find a haystack in Arizona, as hay is not a very big industry there...

Have you ever thought that they have a Primary Directive like on Star Trek? That they stay away from interfering directly with our sovereignty and evolution?

[InkL0sed]

I am confusing myself. TZOR , or PLAYER , or NEOTENY , or DAGIP (just to put you all under the gun) are gonna have to explain it better.

Sorry about the delay, I wasn't really following this thread until now.

I'm not familiar with the discovery program you saw, but I do know there are several multi-dimensional theories out there, including the one that supports string theory. Parallel universes was also an interesting postulated theory, and I don't know if it "intersects" with the multiple universe theory which is currently being proposed to explain the non uniform and somewhat random expansion of the universe over time.

Unfortunately it has been 25 years since I was in college, so I generally hear about these things indirectly and often at college reunions. (Or glancing at journals.)

Perhaps a UFO isn't from a different dimension but from a different time; a time traveling device. That's why it looks the same, because it is really the same ship traveling to different points of space and time. (Of course it could also be the copy cat phenomenon.) I prefer my UFOs to remain "unidentified."

I have always thought there were a basic 11 dimensions, not actually 12. There actually are supposed to be an infinite number of dimensions, but they are just folded over and into each other, so, for mathematical purposes, all dimensions can be explained using the 11 dimension model.

The first 3 are what you are familiar with, the 4th is time, and the other 7 dimensions are folded into subatomic particles. From these 11 dimensions, apparently everything in the Universe can be stemmed from.

Now I know that quantum physicists used to use a 10 dimensional model, but they couldn't get the model to fold, so they added an 11th dimension and their mathematical models began to fold in and grow. It was a step into Chaos Theory...

The principle is actually fairly simple to understand as you can see from a sequence of numbers:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14,...

As you can see, the number 11 begins a new sequence. The number line can be divided in sequences of 10 but the sequences of 11 overlap each other on the number line at 11, 22, 33, 44, 55, 66, 77, 88, 99...and then after that you start to get numbers that look like this: 110, 121, 132,143...and so on. It begins to look more and more chaotic, but in actuality, they are just an continuation of the sequence of 11.

Scientists can always add other dimensions into their models, but basically, all you need is 11 dimensions to explain the Universe.

My understanding is that the entire Universe is a reflection of itself, but in different infinite stages of existence. So that the Sun in our solar system is only a reflection of Betelgeuse in the constellation of Orion, or every other star for that matter. And then each galaxy is a reflection of each another galaxy. The Earth, in turn, is a reflection of each and every other planet/moon, they are just sitting in different dimensional time lines apart from us, and of their own volition and future.

The same goes for living creatures, each evolutionary time line continues on reflecting each other, but yet they grow separately. We all exist within a Multi-verse of probabilities. And since probabilities in the Universe MUST occur, then it stands to reason that the insect-like creatures eventually evolved into something that seems like an alien to us, or the dinosaurs perhaps had an offshoot that was humanoid and took off for space somewhere in the Universe. You might end up discovering that there are as many alien species flying around in space as there are sands upon the shores of all the Oceans in the world! But yet, they may exist in other Universes, that are separate from us.

If the Multi-verse theories are correct, then our population problems could easily be solved; because that means that there are infinite numbers of similar Earth-like planets and solar systems that exist in another Universe. If we could slip through that 11 dimensional skin, we could visit another earth, perhaps one that doesn't have any humans on it! We could easily solve the overpopulation problem without having to kill billions of people on the planet, just slip people off into another dimensional facsimile of our own planet and solar system.

Oh, if you would all only vote for DaGip for world emperor...

I only read the nonsense about sequences of 10 (it caught my eye). Obviously you are unaware of the fact that our base-10 counting system is rather arbitrary. It could be base 16, where the "overlap" would start at 17, or hell, maybe binary, where it starts at 3.

I think that was copy/pasted.