Missouri Makes Cyberbullying a Crime

[Juan_Bottom]

Thus making most of CC'c European members into criminals(DM,SUGGS,CHAOSFACTOR,NAPOLEON).
These are crazy times people. It is illegal to harass someone via the internet.


http://news.aol.com/story/_a/missouri-m ... 1200224552

[Neoteny]

[MeDeFe]

FW goers beware.

[DAZMCFC]

i don't live in Missouri, so do one.

[Dancing Mustard]

Sounds to me like they just wanted some company.

Geddit? Huh, huh?

Also, why is it that Europeans seem to make up the bulk of FW's population? Or is it just that the yanks are shit and fade into obscurity?

[Juan_Bottom]

Sounds to me like they just wanted some company.

Geddit? Huh, huh?

Also, why is it that Europeans seem to make up the bulk of FW's population? Or is it just that the yanks are shit and fade into obscurity?

Europeans are all talk. Jibber-Jabber....

Any American would sooner stick their boot in your ass than sit and tell you how they'll do it.

And the rest of the world has manners. Probably because they don't have nukes.....

Great, I harassed people on the web and now I can't go to Missouri......

[william18]

It's a crime in Canada aswell. You could be charged for harrasment and not be able to have access to electronics including camera's(which is a bit odd).

[Snorri1234]

Sounds to me like they just wanted some company.

Geddit? Huh, huh?

Also, why is it that Europeans seem to make up the bulk of FW's population? Or is it just that the yanks are shit and fade into obscurity?

Europeans are all talk. Jibber-Jabber....

Any American would sooner stick their boot in your ass than sit and tell you how they'll do it.

They are more than welcome to come to my house and try it.

[muy_thaiguy]

Sounds to me like they just wanted some company.

Geddit? Huh, huh?

Also, why is it that Europeans seem to make up the bulk of FW's population? Or is it just that the yanks are shit and fade into obscurity?

Europeans are all talk. Jibber-Jabber....

Any American would sooner stick their boot in your ass than sit and tell you how they'll do it.

They are more than welcome to come to my house and try it.

I don't want to go 5000 miles just to do that.

[MeDeFe]

Sounds to me like they just wanted some company.

Geddit? Huh, huh?

Also, why is it that Europeans seem to make up the bulk of FW's population? Or is it just that the yanks are shit and fade into obscurity?

Europeans are all talk. Jibber-Jabber....

Any American would sooner stick their boot in your ass than sit and tell you how they'll do it.

They are more than welcome to come to my house and try it.

I don't want to go 5000 miles just to do that.

And you can't even articulate your reasons for wanting to but not doing it in FW, poor, poor American.

[muy_thaiguy]

No, just that I don't see the point in insulting some people whom I'll probably never meet in real life over trivial causes.

[MeDeFe]

No, just that I don't see the point in insulting some people whom I'll probably never meet in real life over trivial causes.

But you would put your boot up their ass, got it.

[muy_thaiguy]

No, just that I don't see the point in insulting some people whom I'll probably never meet in real life over trivial causes.

But you would put your boot up their ass, got it.

Actions do speak louder then words.

[Dancing Mustard]

Europeans are all talk. Jibber-Jabber....

Any American would sooner stick their boot in your ass than sit and tell you how they'll do it

Oh I see, so Europeans like insults, but Yanks like baseless online macho-posturing?

Sorry, which one was all talk again?

I don't see the point in insulting some people whom I'll probably never meet in real life over trivial causes.

And yet you were very recently a member of the 'Yakuza' clan, an organisation dedicated solely to posting in FW?

[Nickbaldwin]

No, just that I don't see the point in insulting some people whom I'll probably never meet in real life over trivial causes.

But you would put your boot up their ass, got it.

Actions do speak louder then words.

I think the point is you would put your boot up their ass for trivial causes. You mentioned trivial causes in your first post you arse.

[muy_thaiguy]

Europeans are all talk. Jibber-Jabber....

Any American would sooner stick their boot in your ass than sit and tell you how they'll do it

Oh I see, so Europeans like insults, but Yanks like baseless online macho-posturing?

Sorry, which one was all talk again?

I don't see the point in insulting some people whom I'll probably never meet in real life over trivial causes.

And yet you were very recently a member of the 'Yakuza' clan, an organisation dedicated solely to posting in FW?

And... How often did I even go into Flame Wars?

No, just that I don't see the point in insulting some people whom I'll probably never meet in real life over trivial causes.

But you would put your boot up their ass, got it.

Actions do speak louder then words.

I think the point is you would put your boot up their ass for trivial causes. You mentioned trivial causes in your first post you arse.

Not for trivial causes, only if they either A) Don't know when to shut up. B) Are a complete ass to a lot of people for no reason. C) Are a snob that looks down their nose at me and others. D) A combination of any of the above.

[Matroshka]

The article says that it is an extension of current harassment laws. If that is the case then I suppose I agree with it.

What I don't agree with is one of the charges against the lady that did the harassing. They are charging her with "federal charges of conspiracy and accessing protected computers without authorization to get information used to inflict emotional distress." That essentially says that lying to Myspace is a crime, which is crap. No doubt what that lady did was unbelievably wrong and idiotic, but charging her with something like like is going to open up a huge can of shit.

[gdeangel]

You know, it seems that probably the person who is on trial was suspicious that the girl who killed herself was slandering her daughter online. Yes, she was being deceitful, but this hardly should be harassment. She used false pretenses to access MySpace, which is the same as if you went into the YMCA and pretended to be a member in order to snoop on your neighbor who happens to work out there. It's fraud basically, the difference being that because "the internet" is an interstate medium of commerce, the federal government has jurisdiction. That's how they are probably charging the mother, and of course its complete b.s. because she probably lacked any actual malicious intent, and also the victims own parents obviously gave enough of a shit about their daughter when she was alive to take the time to talk to her about her social problems, but all you need is a high profile emotionally charged case for a prosecutor to take to a jury.

Now sometime ago there was a post in chatterbox about race-relations and a link to a long article about a black guy who shot a white kid in his driveway. Of course the poster here was just bandishing around the same old race cards, but when you read the story - which had pretty objective reporting - the fact was that someone had incited the incident by posting online that the shooters son wanted to rape the victims little sister. The victim then went to confront the son with a bunch of his "gang", and the son, being about 12, panicked, told dad they wanted to kill him, and dad went out with a gun and ... accidentally shot the boy - a teenager himself.

If you call someone a big floppy donkey dick online, its pretty funny... and if they don't like it they can just ignore it. That would be classic harassment. The nefarious stuff online is not the harassment I've seen in FW, its the documentation of demeaning treatment... for example, telling someone that they are a big floppy donkey dick, and then emailing all your friends a copy of the message so that you can all tease the person, start calling them donkey dick at school, etc. etc.

There is a line to be drawn. Like "obscenity", its something you know when you see it. The test is, if someone did this to a kid, how would are they likely to react, and could I live with that reaction if it were my own kid.

And to all of you who don't agree, you are all big floppy elephant ears encrusted with floppy dicked donkey poo!

[Snorri1234]

And to all of you who don't agree, you are all big floppy elephant ears encrusted with floppy dicked donkey poo!

*BLAM!*

[DAZMCFC]

start calling them donkey dick at school, etc. etc.

being called "Donkey Dick" is definetly not an insult. i would of been proud to be called that at school. imagine all the girls you'd get.

[Dancing Mustard]

And... How often did I even go into Flame Wars?

On a daily basis for several weeks. I had no idea your Alzheimer's was so advanced...

[Juan_Bottom]

Does the law go too far though? This case doesn't seem to be the norm. And I do think bad parenting played a role, and the parents want someone to blame everthing on. The parents were responsible for their child to make sure nothing bad happened to her on the web. Not that I know what they did. Or that I don't understand their being angery.

This case was local news here for awhile. And while I agree that baiting a child on the web so that you can crush their spirit is an awful thing, kids do that crap all the time. I'm just not won over that we need laws to prevent that. It just seems like reaching, doesn't it?

[gdeangel]

start calling them donkey dick at school, etc. etc.

being called "Donkey Dick" is definetly not an insult. i would of been proud to be called that at school. imagine all the girls you'd get.

Good point... unless your a chick... then it's an insult.

[muy_thaiguy]

And... How often did I even go into Flame Wars?

On a daily basis for several weeks. I had no idea your Alzheimer's was so advanced...

Maybe a week. Several? Uh, no.

[Matroshka]

Does the law go too far though? This case doesn't seem to be the norm. And I do think bad parenting played a role, and the parents want someone to blame everthing on. The parents were responsible for their child to make sure nothing bad happened to her on the web. Not that I know what they did. Or that I don't understand their being angery.

This case was local news here for awhile. And while I agree that baiting a child on the web so that you can crush their spirit is an awful thing, kids do that crap all the time. I'm just not won over that we need laws to prevent that. It just seems like reaching, doesn't it?

I think we basically agree.

If they are just extending the current harassment laws to encompass the internet, I don't see an issue with that.

The stretch is in the charges, in my opinion. If she does get convicted on the count of "federal charges of conspiracy and accessing protected computers without authorization to get information used to inflict emotional distress." then it seems like it could make lying on the internet a federal crime.