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Re: What type of Government actually works?

Postby Lone.prophet on Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:48 am

every goverment has flaws cause humans arent perfect
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Re: What type of Government actually works?

Postby Ntetos on Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:03 am

xerro wrote:i think communism is a wonderful form of government.
why?
i think because most people arn't smart enough to rule themselves, they don't have enough self-control or brain power.
communism, in its true and correct form, is a wonderful idea. i havnt seen a extremely succesful communistic government, but thats because the leaders don't follow the rules.....
if, a communistic goverment was set up, and everyone in charge followed their laws, then i think it would be extremely succesful government...
thats just what i think.... :mrgreen:


I agree that communism in its true and correct form would be the best form of government, but unfortunately I think it is almost impossible for it to ever happen.
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Re: What type of Government actually works?

Postby suggs on Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:09 am

"Wealth redistrubution,
Is still the best solution" (The levellers).

Too bloody right.
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Re: What type of Government actually works?

Postby mastadon on Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:58 pm

Ntetos wrote:
xerro wrote:i think communism is a wonderful form of government.
why?
i think because most people arn't smart enough to rule themselves, they don't have enough self-control or brain power.
communism, in its true and correct form, is a wonderful idea. i havnt seen a extremely succesful communistic government, but thats because the leaders don't follow the rules.....
if, a communistic goverment was set up, and everyone in charge followed their laws, then i think it would be extremely succesful government...
thats just what i think.... :mrgreen:


I agree that communism in its true and correct form would be the best form of government, but unfortunately I think it is almost impossible for it to ever happen.



Any government in its true form is impossible for any long period of time or once you hit a certain size scale.
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Re: What type of Government actually works?

Postby War Dog on Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:45 pm

yes democracy is meant to do this but officals take advantage of the weak
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Re: What type of Government actually works?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:57 pm

mastadon wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
mastadon wrote:Human beings were alive for thousands of years with out government dictating their daily actions.

Not sure where you get this idea.


Me neither. I'll right this off as the effects of pot.
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Let me explain that when I bring up these humans, I am referencing the fourth and fifth millennium BCE.

what I said still applies .... though there might be archeologists out there who claim differently, the overwhelming majority are leaning towards the idea that early humans and pre-humans were actually more advanced and more complex than thought previously. Maybe not quite "Clan of the Cave Bear", but they figure neandrothals had structured society of a sort.
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Well, I was going to remark that this is not a typical symptom ... but I will leave that out, too.
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Re: What type of Government actually works?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:58 pm

War Dog wrote:yes democracy is meant to do this but officals take advantage of the weak

This was covered before, but that is why we don't have true democracy.

I like the quote, I cannot remember who said it. ... Democracy is a terrible form of government, but no one has yet come up with anything better.
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Re: What type of Government actually works?

Postby mastadon on Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:49 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
mastadon wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
mastadon wrote:Human beings were alive for thousands of years with out government dictating their daily actions.

Not sure where you get this idea.


Me neither. I'll right this off as the effects of pot.


Let me explain that when I bring up these humans, I am referencing the fourth and fifth millennium BCE.

what I said still applies .... though there might be archeologists out there who claim differently, the overwhelming majority are leaning towards the idea that early humans and pre-humans were actually more advanced and more complex than thought previously. Maybe not quite "Clan of the Cave Bear", but they figure neandrothals had structured society of a sort.
[quote="PLAYER57832"]

Organization and complexity still does not have a direct correlation with a central government. Wise men or chiefs may have been in place to choose a good path but without police force or public approval they suddenly become worthless in a disagreement or dispute.

Although both of us are making LARGE generalization of many people over long periods of time. I think it is best to say that we are both right when it comes to ancient peoples and civilizations.
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Re: What type of Government actually works?

Postby Snorri1234 on Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:54 pm

The one without any humans.
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Re: What type of Government actually works?

Postby xerro on Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:56 pm

mastadon wrote:
Ntetos wrote:
xerro wrote:i think communism is a wonderful form of government.
why?
i think because most people arn't smart enough to rule themselves, they don't have enough self-control or brain power.
communism, in its true and correct form, is a wonderful idea. i havnt seen a extremely succesful communistic government, but thats because the leaders don't follow the rules.....
if, a communistic goverment was set up, and everyone in charge followed their laws, then i think it would be extremely succesful government...
thats just what i think.... :mrgreen:


I agree that communism in its true and correct form would be the best form of government, but unfortunately I think it is almost impossible for it to ever happen.



Any government in its true form is impossible for any long period of time or once you hit a certain size scale.

i dissagree. democracy, is the worst type of government. it takes extremely to long to arrive on a solution... and that solution is what many people think is right, and they compromise.... so, they may not invent the best solution, just the solution that wont affend to many people.....

so its not really a good form of government at all.


and it gives people the false idea that what they say is important, or someting.....
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Re: What type of Government actually works?

Postby Ntetos on Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:19 am

PLAYER57832 wrote:
War Dog wrote:yes democracy is meant to do this but officals take advantage of the weak

This was covered before, but that is why we don't have true democracy.

I like the quote, I cannot remember who said it. ... Democracy is a terrible form of government, but no one has yet come up with anything better.


Churchill said it.

I think that pure democracy is a failure. People voting for a subject for which they have no idea can only lead to bad results. Only the people who are aware of the situation should have a say on how to improve it. Example for healthcare doctors, for education teachers etc.
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