Big Decision!

[Gregrios]

Who will you vote for?

I don't care where you're from or how old you are. This vote is for everybody because the irony of it is that the upcoming election really does effect everyone around this planet we call earth.

Place your vote and give some reasons why you feel your choice is the best choice.

[joecoolfrog]

I dont think either candidate is outstanding but the last few years have not been kind to the USA, its time for a change of direction. As usual there will be diehard conservatives and liberals who would vote for a monkey if it wore the right badge but I think the swing voters
will go for the democrat.

[joecoolfrog]

I dont think either candidate is outstanding but the last few years have not been kind to the USA, its time for a change of direction. As usual there will be diehard conservatives and liberals who would vote for a monkey if it wore the right badge but I think the swing voters
will go for the democrat.

[dewey316]

I think the swing voters will go for the democrat.

I think that is a pretty bold statement. I think the swing voters are going to go both ways, and it will be a very close election. Obama is pretty extreme to the left, McCain is the more moderate of the two, but being a republican is going to hurt him, because of the George W. effect. I think it is really going to come down to what demographics show up to vote and where. Number wise, based on the number of registered voters, Dems should have won the last several elections. But, when it really matters they don't show in to the polls, or at least not in places where it matters. With the electoral system, despite the numbers, you have to win more than just the large population centers, that is where the Dems have failed in the last few elections. Demographicly the democrates have larger numbers in the population that is 30 years and younger, and lower income. It seems that these are the groups that don't vote in nearly the numbers of the older more affluent demographics. At least not in places where they can turn the electorial votes for states that need to be picked up to swing the vote.

Just my $0.02, I am not expecting a landslide either way, and I don't think it is a very accurate statement assume that all swing voters are going to swing to Obama, since McCain is probablyt he more moderate candidate.

[btownmeggy]

Obama is a leftist extremist?

[InkL0sed]

Why do people think Obama is such an extreme leftist anyway? Is it that he's opposed to universal healthcare maybe?

[Pedronicus]

Is this guy in the Stachewackers??

[jonesthecurl]

Obama doesn't look left wing to most people from outside the US.

[tzor]

My vote is for McCain.

I will admit that the person I really want to see in the White House is J.C. Watts. I mean think of it, a Conservative African American Canadian Football Quarterback, who else would be the best person to "lead" the country forward all the way down that 110 yard field of world politics.

There are a number of reasons why I in general prefer McCain over Obama. Note I said prefer. This isn't for me the same case it was 8 years ago when Al "I'll pwn you all" Gore was threatenting to enslave us in his liberal death trap of infinite reguations and infinite taxes. While some people talk of Obama's voting record (because he really didn't actually write much legislation unlike the other jr. Senator Clinton) one can easily tie it down to trying to do the right thing to get brownie points in the party. In fact one can be assured of his lack of commitment to do the right thing even if it's not in his short term interest. Consider his original pledge to take public financing and then when he finds out he can make a bundle especially when he returns to the good old boy bundler donations he pulls out faster than you can say, "it." (That drives the Knights who used to say "Ni" mad.)

So given that McCain has a numberof advantages. As an ExPOW he is less likely to start a new war and less eager to escalate an old one. Everyone talks bout Iraq, but what about Afganistan? More of our brave men are being killed there currently than in Iraq and Obama wants to increase our involvement there, not decrease it. McCain also has a proven track record of disagreeing with his own party and of crossing lines to get things done which his own party elite didn't much care for. We need a unitier not a divider. When has Obama crossed that isle between one side of the senate and the other?

Of course Obama is young. That's a two edged sword; eight years from now he will still be young and he will then be an ex president. Ex presidents are like fish, they start to really smell after a while. I mean look at Carter. He's in Cuba, he's with the terrorists in the Gaza Strip, he's everywhere we don't want him to be. We should elect old people to the presidency so that way after they leave office they promptly croak.

[joecoolfrog]

Obama doesn't look left wing to most people from outside the US.

Thats an understatement

[cmckinney]

Why do people think Obama is such an extreme leftist anyway? Is it that he's opposed to universal healthcare maybe?

Maybe the fact that he was ranked the The Most Liberal Senator In the Senate by many of the rankings.

If you think Hillary Clinton is liberal, you haven't seen anything.

[Ntetos]

Being left or right is dependen upon the rest of the politicians. Since there isn't someone less right than Obama in US this means that he is extreme leftist. In a european country however he would be considered a centrist since there are people who are more left.

[dewey316]

You all beat me too it!

You want to know why I think he is so liberal. Its simple, his voting record.

[cmckinney]

Being left or right is dependen upon the rest of the politicians. Since there isn't someone less right than Obama in US this means that he is extreme leftist. In a european country however he would be considered a centrist since there are people who are more left.

Well that would make sense...but America isn't in Europe now is it?

[MeDeFe]

Vote luns101/Stopper!

Hope for Conquerclub '08!

[tzor]

You want to know why I think he is so liberal. Its simple, his voting record.

Yes but that doesn't really answer the question. Is his liberal voting record because he is liberal or because he wanted to "fit in" with the crowd at the Democratic party and because he knew that people keep count of how pure you are to the liberal way of life. Remember just as Clinton had memories of battles in places where the natives greeted her with hugs, so too has Obama had memories of voting for legislation where he acutally wasn't present for the vote.

Eariler in the primary someone pointed out to me that Obama really doesn't have many pieces of legislation in his name in the senate, while Clinton had hundreds of them.

Something tells me that Obama will be whatever it takes him to be.

[dewey316]

Then the big question is, do we really want to trust and office with as much power as the POTUS, to someone who votes trying to "fit in". If he voted in a way that was liberal, because that is who he is trying to appease, why would he do any differently as the President. I said before, I don't like either candidate, but Obama's track record thus far, is very far leaning one direction. McCain has always been known as being rather moderate (for good, or for bad). I am not in anyway a big fan of McCain, but I will give him credit, he does what he thinks is right, regardless of what is popular, or what his party line is. As the President, you have to be able to make descisions like that, that sometimes aren't popular, and aren't down your party's line.

[suggs]

Being left or right is dependen upon the rest of the politicians. Since there isn't someone less right than Obama in US this means that he is extreme leftist. In a european country however he would be considered a centrist since there are people who are more left.

Well that would make sense...but America isn't in Europe now is it?

shit why wasnt i told

[Snorri1234]

While some people talk of Obama's voting record

But strangely noone talks about McCain's voting record...

Possibly because his voting record is very much like that of George Bush, or the fact he has voted so few times it's ridiculous.



Yes, he missed more votes than that dude with the brain hemorrhage.

You guys remember that time he was against bush's tax-cuts? Yeah, he's for that now.

As an ExPOW he is less likely to start a new war and less eager to escalate an old one.

Yeah sure he is.

McCain also has a proven track record of disagreeing with his own party and of crossing lines to get things done which his own party elite didn't much care for.

He had a reputation for it, not any more though. Let's check out this hilarious article about him not actually being a maverick.

But is John McCain really a maverick? A look beyond the media's repetition of the word at McCain's actual record suggests that the answer is no. In fact, McCain is a reliable conservative, and if not a perfectly loyal Republican, at least a reasonably loyal one.

According to Congressional Quarterly's party unity scores, which track how often members of Congress side with their party on key votes, over the course of his career McCain has voted with his party 84 percent of the time—not the highest score in the Senate but hardly evidence of a great deal of independence. Similarly, the American Conservative Union gives McCain a lifetime rating of 82.3, making him a solid friend of the right's. And according to the widely respected Poole-Rosenthal rankings, McCain was the eighth-most conservative senator in the 110th Senate.