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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4 Replacements Needed...PM Me!

Postby walelia2 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:59 pm

Sierra_Leon wrote:
walelia2 wrote:
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Was anyone else given the option of dressign as only themselves? if not then FOS on Wale


I would elaborate more, but only if someone will protect me after today. For towns sake, I would not care to claim either of my roles.

I think I understand what you meant. No need to elaborate any further. You misunderstood the question in the first place.

Droz and ga7 are correct. The invitation clearly wrote you cannot dress up as yourself. Thus, mr. incrediball is lying. Question: does this make mr. incrediball a better choice to lynch that Fircoal?


While it DID say in the invite that you could not dress as yourself, something tells me that Talapus is "helpful" in the way that if you mistakenly went as yourself he would not correct you, or rather, make you aware of your mistake and give you the opportunity to correct it (see night action NON action threats). So while it is quite possible that Mr. Incrediball was/is lying, it is also possible that he is confused. I'm not saying he is town or scum, I honestly do not know. I am just saying that the way Tal is, it is quite possible to make a mistake in the game and for "fun" not have it corrected or ignored.

Our dear mod is a little, um, "touched in the head" bless his soul.
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4 Replacements Needed...PM Me!

Postby ga7 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:00 pm

Any attempt at explaining a slipup is bound to be farfetched and silly. In this particular case if you consider the fact he wouldn't have had a role switch if he didn't go dressed as the miller's daughter, this looks pretty much like a pile of bullshit. MIB has been caught red handed, I sure don't know how you can't see that.
Either way I'm still convinced Fir is scum but on the likelyhood of MIB being the new Frau Trude it might be a good idea to change of target.
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4 Replacements Needed...PM Me!

Postby Minister Masket on Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:51 pm

Bugger it all! You want to bring a new suspect to the stand when Fircoal and ga7 are both 2/3 votes away from a lynch? Madness! Mr I has dug a hole for himself late in the day, but I think that can wait until the next day.
If you want, I'll investigate him and see what comes up. How's that for a comprimise?
Now all is needed is for a couple of you to change votes and we'll be done here.
I still think ga7 has the biggest potential to worm his way out of the spotlight - and therefore more dangerous to keep alive - but it's your choice.
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4 Replacements Needed...PM Me!

Postby FloresDelMal on Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:34 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
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mr. incrediball wrote:actually, i was dressed as myself.

No one could dress as themselves. *grins*


Except rumpel FOS mr inc


How do you you know what Rump was dressed as? FOS Flores



my dear, go back to talapus escene and you will see a jolie description of the clothes of the "little man" ;)
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4 Replacements Needed...PM Me!

Postby FloresDelMal on Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:43 pm

oh btw, my vote is staying on fircoal, i think his absence of deffense only shows that him has none, and tomorrow my vote will be on Mr. inc, after get great references about selin deductive skills, it pains me to see him ignoring so easily the huge slip up that inc made, being certain that selin is a smart guy this only leads me to think that him might be protecting mr inc, and therefor might be his scum buddy, FOS selin
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4 Replacements Needed...PM Me!

Postby william18 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:47 pm

FloresDelMal wrote:oh btw, my vote is staying on fircoal, i think his absence of deffense only shows that him has none, and tomorrow my vote will be on Mr. inc, after get great references about selin deductive skills, it pains me to see him ignoring so easily the huge slip up that inc made, being certain that selin is a smart guy this only leads me to think that him might be protecting mr inc, and therefor might be his scum buddy, FOS selin

I beleive Iliad is a better lynch canidate tomorrow.
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4!

Postby Fircoal on Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:46 pm

Selin wrote:
ga7 wrote:So far Walelia and Flores seem to have confirmed the role change, while Mandy denied it. I agree it needs to be cleared up as if everyone but Mandy got their role changed he might be lying.


I didn't see their posts clearly stating that their roles were changed.

*cough*

walelia and flores, could you clearly post if your roles has been changed

fircoal and dustn, same request also for you both.

*wheeze*

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yes it has been changed.

Sorry about late reply.
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4!

Postby walelia2 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:34 pm

Fircoal wrote:
Selin wrote:
ga7 wrote:So far Walelia and Flores seem to have confirmed the role change, while Mandy denied it. I agree it needs to be cleared up as if everyone but Mandy got their role changed he might be lying.


I didn't see their posts clearly stating that their roles were changed.

*cough*

walelia and flores, could you clearly post if your roles has been changed

fircoal and dustn, same request also for you both.

*wheeze*

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yes it has been changed.

Sorry about late reply.


Two votes away from a lynch, and that is all you have to say? No defence whatsoever?
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4!

Postby william18 on Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:38 pm

walelia2 wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
Selin wrote:
ga7 wrote:So far Walelia and Flores seem to have confirmed the role change, while Mandy denied it. I agree it needs to be cleared up as if everyone but Mandy got their role changed he might be lying.


I didn't see their posts clearly stating that their roles were changed.

*cough*

walelia and flores, could you clearly post if your roles has been changed

fircoal and dustn, same request also for you both.

*wheeze*

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yes it has been changed.

Sorry about late reply.


Two votes away from a lynch, and that is all you have to say? No defence whatsoever?


Then I guess he should be killed.
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4 Replacements Needed...PM Me!

Postby Iliad on Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:25 am

william18 wrote:
FloresDelMal wrote:oh btw, my vote is staying on fircoal, i think his absence of deffense only shows that him has none, and tomorrow my vote will be on Mr. inc, after get great references about selin deductive skills, it pains me to see him ignoring so easily the huge slip up that inc made, being certain that selin is a smart guy this only leads me to think that him might be protecting mr inc, and therefor might be his scum buddy, FOS selin

I beleive Iliad is a better lynch canidate tomorrow.

you are yet to explain why?
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4!

Postby FloresDelMal on Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:41 am

walelia2 wrote:
Fircoal wrote:yes it has been changed.

Sorry about late reply.


Two votes away from a lynch, and that is all you have to say? No defence whatsoever?


william18 wrote:Then I guess he should be killed.


QFT plus him didnt made me replace in unmafia *pouts
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4 Replacements Needed...PM Me!

Postby william18 on Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:34 pm

Iliad wrote:
william18 wrote:
FloresDelMal wrote:oh btw, my vote is staying on fircoal, i think his absence of deffense only shows that him has none, and tomorrow my vote will be on Mr. inc, after get great references about selin deductive skills, it pains me to see him ignoring so easily the huge slip up that inc made, being certain that selin is a smart guy this only leads me to think that him might be protecting mr inc, and therefor might be his scum buddy, FOS selin

I beleive Iliad is a better lynch canidate tomorrow.

you are yet to explain why?


The evidence was already said.

You investigated Fircoal, who was busdrived by Mandy to switch Fircoal with Selin. You got the result of town. And MM states that Iliad and Selin are on opposite alingments. This evidence is to coincidental for MM to make up.
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4 Replacements Needed...PM Me!

Postby Iliad on Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:37 pm

william18 wrote:
Iliad wrote:
william18 wrote:
FloresDelMal wrote:oh btw, my vote is staying on fircoal, i think his absence of deffense only shows that him has none, and tomorrow my vote will be on Mr. inc, after get great references about selin deductive skills, it pains me to see him ignoring so easily the huge slip up that inc made, being certain that selin is a smart guy this only leads me to think that him might be protecting mr inc, and therefor might be his scum buddy, FOS selin

I beleive Iliad is a better lynch canidate tomorrow.

you are yet to explain why?


The evidence was already said.

You investigated Fircoal, who was busdrived by Mandy to switch Fircoal with Selin. You got the result of town. And MM states that Iliad and Selin are on opposite alingments. This evidence is to coincidental for MM to make up.
if you didn't skim you would've read that mm thought that we are of opposite alignments because for a short time I was mm's mason(tal fucked up) and I told him that I got town for fircoal. He asked does that mean that selin is lying, and I said that if he said that fir was scum then yes. No opposite alignments. I was tricked by the busdrive. Now major fos on you for some major skimming
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4 Replacements Needed...PM Me!

Postby william18 on Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:59 pm

Iliad wrote:
william18 wrote:
Iliad wrote:
william18 wrote:
FloresDelMal wrote:oh btw, my vote is staying on fircoal, i think his absence of deffense only shows that him has none, and tomorrow my vote will be on Mr. inc, after get great references about selin deductive skills, it pains me to see him ignoring so easily the huge slip up that inc made, being certain that selin is a smart guy this only leads me to think that him might be protecting mr inc, and therefor might be his scum buddy, FOS selin

I beleive Iliad is a better lynch canidate tomorrow.

you are yet to explain why?


The evidence was already said.

You investigated Fircoal, who was busdrived by Mandy to switch Fircoal with Selin. You got the result of town. And MM states that Iliad and Selin are on opposite alingments. This evidence is to coincidental for MM to make up.
if you didn't skim you would've read that mm thought that we are of opposite alignments because for a short time I was mm's mason(tal fucked up) and I told him that I got town for fircoal. He asked does that mean that selin is lying, and I said that if he said that fir was scum then yes. No opposite alignments. I was tricked by the busdrive. Now major fos on you for some major skimming


Ohh so MM wasn't sure. I thought it was one of those "ingraved in stone" things.
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4 Replacements Needed...PM Me!

Postby Iliad on Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:00 pm

william18 wrote:
Iliad wrote:
william18 wrote:
Iliad wrote:
william18 wrote:I beleive Iliad is a better lynch canidate tomorrow.

you are yet to explain why?


The evidence was already said.

You investigated Fircoal, who was busdrived by Mandy to switch Fircoal with Selin. You got the result of town. And MM states that Iliad and Selin are on opposite alingments. This evidence is to coincidental for MM to make up.
if you didn't skim you would've read that mm thought that we are of opposite alignments because for a short time I was mm's mason(tal fucked up) and I told him that I got town for fircoal. He asked does that mean that selin is lying, and I said that if he said that fir was scum then yes. No opposite alignments. I was tricked by the busdrive. Now major fos on you for some major skimming


Ohh so MM wasn't sure. I thought it was one of those "ingraved in stone" things.

if you didn't skim and read what me, selin and mm said then you would not have thought that
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4 Replacements Needed...PM Me!

Postby walelia2 on Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:33 pm

Are we still -2 on the Fircoal lynch?
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4 Replacements Needed...PM Me!

Postby Talapus on Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:39 pm

Vote Count:


Fircoal(9) - /, FloresDelMal, ga7, walelia2, Sierra_Leon, DRoZ, Mountainlion, LSU Tiger Josh, william18
ga7(8) - nagerous, got tonkaed, william18, mandalorian2298, iliad, mr. incrediball, Minister Masket, Selin


With 21 alive it takes 11 to evict.
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4 Replacements Needed...PM Me!

Postby Minister Masket on Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:43 am

william18 wrote:
Iliad wrote:
william18 wrote:
Iliad wrote:
william18 wrote:I beleive Iliad is a better lynch canidate tomorrow.

you are yet to explain why?


The evidence was already said.

You investigated Fircoal, who was busdrived by Mandy to switch Fircoal with Selin. You got the result of town. And MM states that Iliad and Selin are on opposite alingments. This evidence is to coincidental for MM to make up.
if you didn't skim you would've read that mm thought that we are of opposite alignments because for a short time I was mm's mason(tal fucked up) and I told him that I got town for fircoal. He asked does that mean that selin is lying, and I said that if he said that fir was scum then yes. No opposite alignments. I was tricked by the busdrive. Now major fos on you for some major skimming


Ohh so MM wasn't sure. I thought it was one of those "ingraved in stone" things.

Garr! Still not understanding!
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4 Replacements Needed...PM Me!

Postby Selin on Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:35 am

Talapus wrote:Vote Count:


Fircoal(9) - /, FloresDelMal, ga7, walelia2, Sierra_Leon, DRoZ, Mountainlion, LSU Tiger Josh, william18
ga7(8) - nagerous, got tonkaed, william18, mandalorian2298, iliad, mr. incrediball, Minister Masket, Selin


With 21 alive it takes 11 to evict.


Hmmm....

william seems to have the ability of voting two different players. This should be an improved version of doublevoter's role. :)

On the more serious side: We have now to decide who to lynch, as we have two main candidates to choose from. So why don't we elaborate this further?

My idea behind voting ga7 was based on Mr. Inc's claim of being Frau Trude before the ball. If that's true this will mean that ga7 is still lying us even after the ball and that's a clear indication for me that ga7 is scum. If Mr. Inc's claim is not true, we have a scum identified for tomorrow (Mr. Inc. himself) for sure. However I think that this is much less probable because if Mr. Inc. had been still scum after the ball, he wouldn't have targeted another scum (ga7) have lynched by revealing his former identity where Mr. Inc. himself was not even under the spotlight.

Coming to Fircoal it is pretty suspicious that he haven't reacted to his 9 votes up to now. He was highly probable scum before the ball (Cinderella's stepsister) and he maybe scum or town after the ball. I don't know. The fact that he haven't attempted to defend himself makes me think that he may be another unlynchable one eventually, at least for the time being. However this is just a theory of mine.

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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4!

Postby FloresDelMal on Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:42 am

Selin what about the theory of you being a cultie diverting the attention for save your buddies?
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4!

Postby Selin on Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:41 am

FloresDelMal wrote:Selin what about the theory of you being a cultie diverting the attention for save your buddies?


Flores, what's about the theory of you being a scum partner of ga7 diverting the attention to save your buddy? Theories are good, but you need supporting arguments for them.

What I did was that I chose one of two suspects and explained my argumentation why I voted ga7 instead of Fircoal. Please note that I made no comments on Fircoal's alignment on day 3. On the contrary, I was the one who made a very strong statement against Fircoal and voted him on day 2 stating that he is Cinderella's stepsister. The cult recruiter skoffin died on Night 2 highly probable trying to recruit a scum, so there is no chance that Fircoal became a cultie on night 3. If Fircoal and me had been cult buddies on day 2, I wouldn't have argued against him and voted him on day 2.


Message to the cult members: You probably know who Skoffin tried to recruit last night. That person is scum and a threat also for you. Be aware of it.

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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4!

Postby Sierra_Leon on Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:43 am

Just a week ago Fircoal did almost exactly the same in I Know What You Did Last Mafia. He got accused of being scum (with way less evidence than in this game) and hardly defended himself. He was scum (SK actually). Apparently, he still thinks that tactic works.

I think mr. incrediball was not very credible (hihi), so I'd prefer to keep ga7 around. Why MIB would stick his neck out like that if he's scum, I have no idea though. But that's why I'm not suggesting we lynch MIB either.
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4!

Postby MountainLion on Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:37 am

I'm keeping my several votes on Fircoal mainly because he hasn't posted a single word in months...at least ga7 is around and we can poke him with spears tomorrow for his life story if we have to...
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4!

Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:19 pm

Well said ML. Fircoal doesn't want to speak in here
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 4!

Postby mr. incrediball on Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:30 pm

where is fircoal? doesn't he like fairytales? he seems the fairytale type...

in other news, i feel we should ask for a replacement. (never thought i'd be saying that about fircy :shock: )
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