This Site Makes Me Laugh

[ParadiceCity9]

http://drdino.com/index.php

These are the only things I've read so far...but they were enough for me to know that these people are loony.

http://drdino.com/articles.php?spec=6

http://drdino.com/articles.php?spec=31

http://drdino.com/articles.php?spec=66 <--This one I found most interesting

Let me tell you why.

"Firstly, the time frame is vastly different. The MBBT puts the beginning of everything at around 18-20 billion years." - False. The universe is about 13.7 billion years old.

"The Bible gives us clear genealogy in Luke 3:23-38 from Christ to Adam, indicating a time frame of roughly 4,000 years from Christ to Adam (Who was present in the beginning as quoted by Christ in Mark 10:6 and Matthew 19:4). Today, 2,000 years after Christ," - That says to me that we don't even exist yet, according to Christianity or w/e. Doesn't really make sense to me...

". With the Bible, the earth is created prior to the sun." - That couldn't have happened since the planets formed since gas clouds formed because of the gravity of something - the Sun.

"'the grass, trees, and flowers were made on day three, whereas the sun, moon, and stars were made on day four." - That denounces the possibility of this six day creation since without light for photosynthesis, the plants would die. WTG Bible writer....



From the first one, trying to prove that the Universe is only 4000 years old:

"1. All planetary rings still exhibit intricacies which Should Have long ago disappeared." - The rings are made of material that was caught in the Roche limit of the planet - that's where material is caught by the gravity of two or more celestial bodies and is disintegrated, giving it the widespread appearance.
"2. All known comets burn up their material with each pass around the sun and Should Have a maximum life expectancy of 100,000 years." - That doesn't mean every comet has been around the entire duration of the universe.
"3. The outer solar system planets should have long ago cooled off." - The Sun isn't the only source of heat.
"4. The spiral galaxies Should Have long ago un-spiraled, and the uneven dispersion of matter in the universe Should Have long ago dispersed." - No. They really shouldn't have. The spiral galaxies are held together by the super-massive black hole at the center of the galaxy.




The second article basically says that, in some points in the universe, as time moves at different rates, a six day creation of the universe is possible. It also states that this was happening at the outer limits of the universe. Well the Earth, in fact, is much closer to the center of the universe than it is the outer edges of it.



I urge you to read more on this site and, together, scientifically denounce the possibility of pretty much anything religion says. It's a lot of fun

[rocky mountain]

"Firstly, the time frame is vastly different. The MBBT puts the beginning of everything at around 18-20 billion years." - False. The universe is about 13.7 billion years old. why does this prove we're loonies?

"The Bible gives us clear genealogy in Luke 3:23-38 from Christ to Adam, indicating a time frame of roughly 4,000 years from Christ to Adam (Who was present in the beginning as quoted by Christ in Mark 10:6 and Matthew 19:4). Today, 2,000 years after Christ," - That says to me that we don't even exist yet, according to Christianity or w/e. Doesn't really make sense to me...how did you get that out of it? it means that from Adam (first man) to Christ was 4000 years, and from Christ to now, 200 years, making the earth about 6000 years. how did you get that we don't exist?

". With the Bible, the earth is created prior to the sun." - That couldn't have happened since the planets formed since gas clouds formed because of the gravity of something - the Sun. yes, but in this belief the earth was created before the sun. at the time being the earth did not need the sun. in this belief the planets did not form from the sun.

"'the grass, trees, and flowers were made on day three, whereas the sun, moon, and stars were made on day four." - That denounces the possibility of this six day creation since without light for photosynthesis, the plants would die. WTG Bible writer.... there was still light. God created the light on day 1. hence the "days". the sun is only the source of light for the Earth. they didn't need the sun then.



From the first one, trying to prove that the Universe is only 4000 years old:

"1. All planetary rings still exhibit intricacies which Should Have long ago disappeared." - The rings are made of material that was caught in the Roche limit of the planet - that's where material is caught by the gravity of two or more celestial bodies and is disintegrated, giving it the widespread appearance.
"2. All known comets burn up their material with each pass around the sun and Should Have a maximum life expectancy of 100,000 years." - That doesn't mean every comet has been around the entire duration of the universe.
"3. The outer solar system planets should have long ago cooled off." - The Sun isn't the only source of heat.
"4. The spiral galaxies Should Have long ago un-spiraled, and the uneven dispersion of matter in the universe Should Have long ago dispersed." - No. They really shouldn't have. The spiral galaxies are held together by the super-massive black hole at the center of the galaxy.




The second article basically says that, in some points in the universe, as time moves at different rates, a six day creation of the universe is possible. It also states that this was happening at the outer limits of the universe. Well the Earth, in fact, is much closer to the center of the universe than it is the outer edges of it.



I urge you to read more on this site and, together, scientifically denounce the possibility of pretty much anything religion says. It's a lot of fun

[ParadiceCity9]

"Firstly, the time frame is vastly different. The MBBT puts the beginning of everything at around 18-20 billion years." - False. The universe is about 13.7 billion years old. why does this prove we're loonies? -- Never said this in particular made you loonies. The overall impression I got made you loonies.

"The Bible gives us clear genealogy in Luke 3:23-38 from Christ to Adam, indicating a time frame of roughly 4,000 years from Christ to Adam (Who was present in the beginning as quoted by Christ in Mark 10:6 and Matthew 19:4). Today, 2,000 years after Christ," - That says to me that we don't even exist yet, according to Christianity or w/e. Doesn't really make sense to me...how did you get that out of it? it means that from Adam (first man) to Christ was 4000 years, and from Christ to now, 200 years, making the earth about 6000 years. how did you get that we don't exist? -- It says quite clearly "FROM CHRIST TO ADAM"

". With the Bible, the earth is created prior to the sun." - That couldn't have happened since the planets formed since gas clouds formed because of the gravity of something - the Sun. yes, but in this belief the earth was created before the sun. at the time being the earth did not need the sun. in this belief the planets did not form from the sun. -- I never said the planets formed from the Sun, I said they formed because of the Sun.

"'the grass, trees, and flowers were made on day three, whereas the sun, moon, and stars were made on day four." - That denounces the possibility of this six day creation since without light for photosynthesis, the plants would die. WTG Bible writer.... there was still light. God created the light on day 1. hence the "days". the sun is only the source of light for the Earth. they didn't need the sun then. -- It said in the article itself that the plants would wither and die.

Now I'd appreciate it if you stopped putting words in my mouth.

[rocky mountain]

"Firstly, the time frame is vastly different. The MBBT puts the beginning of everything at around 18-20 billion years." - False. The universe is about 13.7 billion years old. why does this prove we're loonies? -- Never said this in particular made you loonies. The overall impression I got made you loonies.

"The Bible gives us clear genealogy in Luke 3:23-38 from Christ to Adam, indicating a time frame of roughly 4,000 years from Christ to Adam (Who was present in the beginning as quoted by Christ in Mark 10:6 and Matthew 19:4). Today, 2,000 years after Christ," - That says to me that we don't even exist yet, according to Christianity or w/e. Doesn't really make sense to me...how did you get that out of it? it means that from Adam (first man) to Christ was 4000 years, and from Christ to now, 200 years, making the earth about 6000 years. how did you get that we don't exist? -- It says quite clearly "FROM CHRIST TO ADAM"ok well from Adam to Christ it was 4000 years, i don't really get why they say Christ to Adam either, but its saying the earth is 6000 years old from the timelines in the bible.

". With the Bible, the earth is created prior to the sun." - That couldn't have happened since the planets formed since gas clouds formed because of the gravity of something - the Sun. yes, but in this belief the earth was created before the sun. at the time being the earth did not need the sun. in this belief the planets did not form from the sun. -- I never said the planets formed from the Sun, I said they formed because of the Sun.ok well still, the planets did not need the sun to be formed if God created them.

"'the grass, trees, and flowers were made on day three, whereas the sun, moon, and stars were made on day four." - That denounces the possibility of this six day creation since without light for photosynthesis, the plants would die. WTG Bible writer.... there was still light. God created the light on day 1. hence the "days". the sun is only the source of light for the Earth. they didn't need the sun then. -- It said in the article itself that the plants would wither and die.its talking about another point of view- "that they were not literal 6 days, but billions of years in between the days." he's saying that the plants would wither in the billions of years, not the one day, so hes saying that point of view is wrong. its not saying that the plants would die and wither after one day. at least thats what he said on the DVDs.

Now I'd appreciate it if you stopped putting words in my mouth. like what?

[ParadiceCity9]

"Firstly, the time frame is vastly different. The MBBT puts the beginning of everything at around 18-20 billion years." - False. The universe is about 13.7 billion years old. why does this prove we're loonies? -- Never said this in particular made you loonies. The overall impression I got made you loonies.

"The Bible gives us clear genealogy in Luke 3:23-38 from Christ to Adam, indicating a time frame of roughly 4,000 years from Christ to Adam (Who was present in the beginning as quoted by Christ in Mark 10:6 and Matthew 19:4). Today, 2,000 years after Christ," - That says to me that we don't even exist yet, according to Christianity or w/e. Doesn't really make sense to me...how did you get that out of it? it means that from Adam (first man) to Christ was 4000 years, and from Christ to now, 200 years, making the earth about 6000 years. how did you get that we don't exist? -- It says quite clearly "FROM CHRIST TO ADAM"ok well from Adam to Christ it was 4000 years, i don't really get why they say Christ to Adam either, but its saying the earth is 6000 years old from the timelines in the bible. OK

". With the Bible, the earth is created prior to the sun." - That couldn't have happened since the planets formed since gas clouds formed because of the gravity of something - the Sun. yes, but in this belief the earth was created before the sun. at the time being the earth did not need the sun. in this belief the planets did not form from the sun. -- I never said the planets formed from the Sun, I said they formed because of the Sun.ok well still, the planets did not need the sun to be formed if God created them. OK

"'the grass, trees, and flowers were made on day three, whereas the sun, moon, and stars were made on day four." - That denounces the possibility of this six day creation since without light for photosynthesis, the plants would die. WTG Bible writer.... there was still light. God created the light on day 1. hence the "days". the sun is only the source of light for the Earth. they didn't need the sun then. -- It said in the article itself that the plants would wither and die.its talking about another point of view- "that they were not literal 6 days, but billions of years in between the days." he's saying that the plants would wither in the billions of years, not the one day, so hes saying that point of view is wrong. its not saying that the plants would die and wither after one day. at least thats what he said on the DVDs. That makes absolutely no sense. Plants don't even last billions of years. How come it's referred to as six days then?

Now I'd appreciate it if you stopped putting words in my mouth. like what? Just the false things you've said. Like False. The universe is about 13.7 billion years old. why does this prove we're loonies? I never said that's why you're a loony.

[rocky mountain]

That makes absolutely no sense. Plants don't even last billions of years. How come it's referred to as six days then?

thats the point. he was saying that that point of view was wrong, because some people believe that the 6 days weren't literally 6 days but billions of years. the article is showing flaws in that theory because the plants don't last billions of years, like you said. the way i said it wasn't exactly the clearest now that i look back on it...

Now I'd appreciate it if you stopped putting words in my mouth. like what? Just the false things you've said. Like False. The universe is about 13.7 billion years old. why does this prove we're loonies? I never said that's why you're a loony.

its just that that doesn't go along with your point of us being loony, so i didn't get why you said it....

[protectedbygold]

its just that that doesn't go along with your point of us being loony, so i didn't get why you said it....

Because ridicule is one of the most effective elements of debate. It allows the ridiculer to sidestep the issue being discussed and force the opponent to defend himself from the attack. Many Christians and theists do this against those of us who do not feel there's enough evidence to support the idea of a god. Conversely, it's used by atheists against people of faith.

[rocky mountain]

Because ridicule is one of the most effective elements of debate. It allows the ridiculer to sidestep the issue being discussed and force the opponent to defend himself from the attack. Many Christians and theists do this against those of us who do not feel there's enough evidence to support the idea of a god. Conversely, it's used by atheists against people of faith.

i don't get it....

[demon7896]

ROTFLOL.

Well, here's my version of how the universe started.

IN THE BEGINNING

Huge flash of energy, today known as the BIG BANG. I still don't know WHERE that flash of energy came from, and that is the only reason why I'm uncertain about god. Everything else, perfectly explainable.

The enormous amount of heat allows matter and energy to be exchanged freely. Particles form. Eventually, the universe has cooled down enough to allow the first ATOMS, dominantly HYDROGEN(its the simplest and easiest to make, hence, it was made).

The hydrogen gas now swirling around the universe collects, and forms galaxies, in which, subdivisions of the gas collapse to make stars. The bigger stars create the other elements (helium, carbon, etc., up into iron in the biggest stars)by nuclear fusion, and, in the largest stars, when iron is made, a supernova occurs. The supernova creates all other elements, and the universe is enriched with the rest of the elements in the natural periodic table. The dust created from these elements now collect around stars being born, and form PLANETS.

BILLIONS OF YEARS LATER, IN A HYDROGEN NEBULA

A star is being born. Around it, a disk of dust and gas is forming.....
The third particularly large clump from the sun is constantly bombarded with debris, one of the rather large impacts forming a disk around it, which clumps into the moon. Soon, water begins to form on the planet's surface, and later, the MIRACLE OF LIFE, AND LATER, AN INSIGNIFICANT FELLOW, SUCH AS MYSELF.


THE END.


Comment, correct, query, do whatever the hell you want.

[The1exile]

i don't get it....

You're assuming his points are made to support his ad hominem-ish point about loonieness rather than the theory he supports that he holds all others who dismiss it to be the aforementioned lonnies.

any better?

[ParadiceCity9]

Now I'd appreciate it if you stopped putting words in my mouth. like what? Just the false things you've said. Like False. The universe is about 13.7 billion years old. why does this prove we're loonies? I never said that's why you're a loony.

its just that that doesn't go along with your point of us being loony, so i didn't get why you said it....

OK I'll say it again before I flip shit. I NEVER SAID THIS IS WHY YOU ARE A LOONY. I JUST STATED THAT THAT STATEMENT THE WEBSITE MADE IS FALSE BY ABOUT FOUR BILLION YEARS. THAT'S ALL. IS THAT TOO HARD TO UNDERSTAND FOR YOU??? DO YOU NEED ME TO RAISE MY VOICE?

[Gregrios]

its just that that doesn't go along with your point of us being loony, so i didn't get why you said it....

Because ridicule is one of the most effective elements of debate. It allows the ridiculer to sidestep the issue being discussed and force the opponent to defend himself from the attack. Many Christians and theists do this against those of us who do not feel there's enough evidence to support the idea of a god. Conversely, it's used by atheists against people of faith.

This is indeed true. I can't count how many times I've seen people resort to this type of arguement.

It's when someone uses this low level attack on me that I tend not to take them serious. Why should I?

Might I add. We need more people like you on this site. You're one of the most level headed people I've seen in this forum.

[jay_a2j]

This THREAD makes me laugh!

[Neoteny]

I always have the urge to comment on everyone's statements regarding the origin of the universe, but noone ever really pays attention to anything. All you level-headed individuals just sidestep the issue and fling insults. Not that I have a problem with that, but it's not worth the effort...