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Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby HapSmo19 on Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:00 pm

It appears there are archeologists back at Stonehenge digging around for the truth but you dont have to wait for them to decide whether or not they want to tell you what that is because I'm going to do it right now.
I've been interested in Stonehenge for years and have spent plenty of time researching it. I have never been there but from what I have gleaned from online research it is:
A trap. Yes, you heard it here first. From me. Sound crazy?
When you consider the other accepted theories:
1. An observatory (over-engineered to the nth degree)
2. A pagan temple of worship (there's always one of these)
3. A monument to the vagina (please....this guy even went to college)

Necessity being the mother of invention, a working trap for a very large, very dangerous animal is the most practical idea. I could go into great detail about how it worked but why?
Let the ridicule begin.......

Overhead http://www.sacred-destinations.com/engl ... 955ft.html
A web page http://witcombe.sbc.edu/earthmysteries/ ... henge.html
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby The Weird One on Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:02 pm

1st link doesn't work :roll:
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby The Weird One on Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:04 pm

HapSmo19 wrote:It appears there are archeologists back at Stonehenge digging around for the truth but you dont have to wait for them to decide whether or not they want to tell you what that is because I'm going to do it right now.
I've been interested in Stonehenge for years and have spent plenty of time researching it. I have never been there but from what I have gleaned from online research it is:
A trap. Yes, you heard it here first. From me. Sound crazy?
When you consider the other accepted theories:
1. An observatory (over-engineered to the nth degree)
2. A pagan temple of worship (there's always one of these)
3. A monument to the vagina (please....this guy even went to college)

Necessity being the mother of invention, a working trap for a very large, very dangerous animal is the most practical idea. I could go into great detail about how it worked but why?
Let the ridicule begin.......

Overhead http://www.sacred-destinations.com/engl ... 955ft.html
A web page http://witcombe.sbc.edu/earthmysteries/ ... henge.html


also, if you haven't found this out yet, let me be the first to inform you. CC'ers are LAZY! We won't want to read the whole article on the second link. Please summarixe this for us.
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby HapSmo19 on Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:31 pm

The first link was just an overhead picture. The second is a general info site of existing info.
The trap thoery is mine. I was going to go into detail about how it works and will eventually but I am lazier.
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby Frigidus on Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:34 pm

I'd say it's a nice little pile of rocks.
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby muy_thaiguy on Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:40 pm

HapSmo19 wrote:The first link was just an overhead picture. The second is a general info site of existing info.
The trap thoery is mine. I was going to go into detail about how it works and will eventually but I am lazier.

So, in order to get an Irish Elk (I'm trying to figure out WHAT they could have hunted that MIGHT have required such large and heavy stones, and also the Irish Elk is about the only animal that I can place at the right time and place), they would, lure into the center of the ring, then stab at it when they could? I think it may be easier to just hurl a spear at it to bring it down then try and move all those ridiculously large stones just to get one or two animals. :?
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby HapSmo19 on Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:40 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:So, in order to get an Irish Elk (I'm trying to figure out WHAT they could have hunted that MIGHT have required such large and heavy stones, and also the Irish Elk is about the only animal that I can place at the right time and place), they would, lure into the center of the ring, then stab at it when they could? I think it may be easier to just hurl a spear at it to bring it down then try and move all those ridiculously large stones just to get one or two animals. :?


A large cat? A mammoth? A dinosaur? Who knows for sure?
Though I believe it's far older than they say it is as the way it was dated is dubious.
Spears and arrows were secondary. The animal was lured in to the center with bait where a large stone (the "altar stone") was dropped on it while it was feeding.
The hunters(20 or so?), after coming out of the two barrows and circling in the ditch(bank on the inside for cover), snuck up behind the "lintels" and cut the rope, dropping the stone. Then safely filled it full of spears and arrows through the narrow slots between the stones. I think more to rid the area farmers and villages of a dangerous menace than for food.
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby Ditocoaf on Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:02 am

So... you come here, say something that at first sounds random and ridiculous, but you explain it with... oh, right. I'd be interested in hearing your theory, but this thread is pretty useless without the actual theory. I'd be like if I started a thread saying "[Insert claim here]! I have evidence and an explanation! But I'm not going to give them to you! Oh, boy, now you guys are going to really ridicule me." Of course you're going to be ridiculed... you are posting a brand-new idea with no explanation.
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby Balsiefen on Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:10 am

HapSmo19 wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:So, in order to get an Irish Elk (I'm trying to figure out WHAT they could have hunted that MIGHT have required such large and heavy stones, and also the Irish Elk is about the only animal that I can place at the right time and place), they would, lure into the center of the ring, then stab at it when they could? I think it may be easier to just hurl a spear at it to bring it down then try and move all those ridiculously large stones just to get one or two animals. :?


A large cat? A mammoth? A dinosaur? Who knows for sure?
Though I believe it's far older than they say it is as the way it was dated is dubious.
Spears and arrows were secondary. The animal was lured in to the center with bait where a large stone (the "altar stone") was dropped on it while it was feeding.
The hunters(20 or so?), after coming out of the two barrows and circling in the ditch(bank on the inside for cover), snuck up behind the "lintels" and cut the rope, dropping the stone. Then safely filled it full of spears and arrows through the narrow slots between the stones. I think more to rid the area farmers and villages of a dangerous menace than for food.



And your the guy saying the bloke who suggested it was a monument to the vagina was a nutjob?

A large cat? You won't get anything bigger than a Lynx in Britain at that time (see my avvy)
Mammoth-no chance. Far too early for the Celtic civilization to develop (or in fact, any non nomadic tribe, it died out long before metalworking and defiantly long before humans had enough technology for mounting and moving stones from wales
As for dinosaurs. #-o
I definitely don't see hunters having stones, not only carved, but imported all the way from wales and mounted (proberbly using A frames from what we think now, a lot of bother and hastle) just to kill of a minor nuisance of an animal when they have perfectly good hunting techniques which can kill anything the British countryside had to offer.

The second thing is, its far too ceremonial for a simple trap (which could be made as you described by nothing but a few mounds of earth and a locally sourced stone.)
Why would hunters build such a huge construction? and one made from Welsh stones? Why take care so that the sun would move exactly through the central stone at midsummer and midwinter? Why line the outside banks with gleaming white stone so it can be seen from miles around? Why make stone lined pathways leading down to the river, rivers being holy places for the Celts, a boat ride from which will take you to the end of another path, which leads up to a second, slightly smaller stone circle?

A trap, no; temple, maybe
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby MeDeFe on Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:08 am

It's a trap for killing dragons! The bait was a virgin.
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:26 pm

MeDeFe wrote:It's a trap for killing dragons! The bait was a virgin.


No: it was a trap for killing druids. They were all drawn tere by the influence of th magical laylines andthen -kablooie- the relatives of all the guys who'd been burnt in wicker men squashed them flat.
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby HapSmo19 on Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:45 pm

Balsiefen wrote:And your the guy saying the bloke who suggested it was a monument to the vagina was a nutjob?


Why yes I am. :lol:

Balsiefen wrote:A large cat? You won't get anything bigger than a Lynx in Britain at that time (see my avvy)


1.How do you know?
2.Were you there?
3.And aproximately how long ago was it built according to you?

Balsiefen wrote:Mammoth-no chance. Far too early for the Celtic civilization to develop (or in fact, any non nomadic tribe, it died out long before metalworking and defiantly long before humans had enough technology for mounting and moving stones from wales
As for dinosaurs. #-o


Questions 1 & 2 again.

Balsiefen wrote:The second thing is, its far too ceremonial for a simple trap (which could be made as you described by nothing but a few mounds of earth and a locally sourced stone.)


You're probably right. Depending on how many people volunteer to die.

It's just MY theory. I only bring it up in a good humor sort of fashion and I would continue with responding to you but I haven't quit my day job and lunch break is over. ;)
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby heavycola on Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:01 pm

HapSmo19 wrote:
Balsiefen wrote:And your the guy saying the bloke who suggested it was a monument to the vagina was a nutjob?


Why yes I am. :lol:

Balsiefen wrote:A large cat? You won't get anything bigger than a Lynx in Britain at that time (see my avvy)


1.How do you know?
2.Were you there?
3.And aproximately how long ago was it built according to you?

Balsiefen wrote:Mammoth-no chance. Far too early for the Celtic civilization to develop (or in fact, any non nomadic tribe, it died out long before metalworking and defiantly long before humans had enough technology for mounting and moving stones from wales
As for dinosaurs. #-o


Questions 1 & 2 again.

Balsiefen wrote:The second thing is, its far too ceremonial for a simple trap (which could be made as you described by nothing but a few mounds of earth and a locally sourced stone.)


You're probably right. Depending on how many people volunteer to die.

It's just MY theory. I only bring it up in a good humor sort of fashion and I would continue with responding to you but I haven't quit my day job and lunch break is over. ;)


Nice theory - original and interesting. Kudos.
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby muy_thaiguy on Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:06 pm

1.How do you know?
2.Were you there?
3.And aproximately how long ago was it built according to you?

Large cats of the ice age era did not live in the British Isles, and I have yet to hear about any living in Europe (other then lions brought from Africa during the Roman times). Otherwise archeologists would have found large cats. And according to pretty much all studies, the Stonehenges of the Britsh Isles are estimated to be from about the late stone age to the bronze age.

And honestly, dinosaurs? No, just no.

Mammoths and Mastodons. I'm not 100% sure, but I somehow doubt that they lived on the British Isles. Oh they lived here in North America and in Asia, but I just can't really see such large creatures living on the British Isles.
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby heavycola on Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:18 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
1.How do you know?
2.Were you there?
3.And aproximately how long ago was it built according to you?

Large cats of the ice age era did not live in the British Isles, and I have yet to hear about any living in Europe (other then lions brought from Africa during the Roman times). Otherwise archeologists would have found large cats. And according to pretty much all studies, the Stonehenges of the Britsh Isles are estimated to be from about the late stone age to the bronze age.

And honestly, dinosaurs? No, just no.

Mammoths and Mastodons. I'm not 100% sure, but I somehow doubt that they lived on the British Isles. Oh they lived here in North America and in Asia, but I just can't really see such large creatures living on the British Isles.


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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby Nickbaldwin on Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:19 pm

Mammoths did I think.
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby MeDeFe on Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:23 pm

Nickbaldwin wrote:Mammoths did I think.

No, definitely dragons, any other animal can be killed by throwing sharp sticks at it, but it's really safer to knock out a dragon before you poke it. And for that you need a large, heavy, hard object, like a big rock.
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby Nickbaldwin on Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:24 pm

MeDeFe wrote:
Nickbaldwin wrote:Mammoths did I think.

No, definitely dragons, any other animal can be killed by throwing sharp sticks at it, but it's really safer to knock out a dragon before you poke it. And for that you need a large, heavy, hard object, like a big cock.



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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:29 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
1.How do you know?
2.Were you there?
3.And aproximately how long ago was it built according to you?

Large cats of the ice age era did not live in the British Isles, and I have yet to hear about any living in Europe (other then lions brought from Africa during the Roman times). Otherwise archeologists would have found large cats. And according to pretty much all studies, the Stonehenges of the Britsh Isles are estimated to be from about the late stone age to the bronze age.

And honestly, dinosaurs? No, just no.

Mammoths and Mastodons. I'm not 100% sure, but I somehow doubt that they lived on the British Isles. Oh they lived here in North America and in Asia, but I just can't really see such large creatures living on the British Isles.


Aha, that was because they were all caught in the trap.
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:35 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
1.How do you know?
2.Were you there?
3.And aproximately how long ago was it built according to you?

Large cats of the ice age era did not live in the British Isles, and I have yet to hear about any living in Europe (other then lions brought from Africa during the Roman times). Otherwise archeologists would have found large cats. And according to pretty much all studies, the Stonehenges of the Britsh Isles are estimated to be from about the late stone age to the bronze age.

And honestly, dinosaurs? No, just no.

Mammoths and Mastodons. I'm not 100% sure, but I somehow doubt that they lived on the British Isles. Oh they lived here in North America and in Asia, but I just can't really see such large creatures living on the British Isles.


Aha, that was because they were all caught in the trap.


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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby HapSmo19 on Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:33 pm

Why thankyou.
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby 2dimes on Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:12 pm

What does "smo" mean?
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby Ditocoaf on Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:52 am

jonesthecurl wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
1.How do you know?
2.Were you there?
3.And aproximately how long ago was it built according to you?

Large cats of the ice age era did not live in the British Isles, and I have yet to hear about any living in Europe (other then lions brought from Africa during the Roman times). Otherwise archeologists would have found large cats. And according to pretty much all studies, the Stonehenges of the Britsh Isles are estimated to be from about the late stone age to the bronze age.

And honestly, dinosaurs? No, just no.

Mammoths and Mastodons. I'm not 100% sure, but I somehow doubt that they lived on the British Isles. Oh they lived here in North America and in Asia, but I just can't really see such large creatures living on the British Isles.


Aha, that was because they were all caught in the trap.

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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby HapSmo19 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:04 am

OK. Back to Balsiefen...

Balsiefen wrote:A trap, no; temple, maybe

Why take care so that the sun would move exactly through the central stone at midsummer and midwinter? Why line the outside banks with gleaming white stone so it can be seen from miles around?

Why go through all the trouble to quarry ALL OF THOSE monoliths from whales, and somehow move them there to co-incide with two asrological occurences? And you think the trap is elaborate? Where are the markings of any kind, charting the seasons? There are none.
Where are those gleaming white stones? I don't see them.
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Re: Stonehenge: The Truth

Postby HapSmo19 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:25 am

Balsiefen wrote:The second thing is, its far too ceremonial for a simple trap (which could be made as you described by nothing but a few mounds of earth and a locally sourced stone.)

Less work than three mounds,...you can predict a solstice with two points,...right?
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