The Princess Bride

[daddy1gringo]

Sugg's Law: The first ponce to say "Ooo, the book is so much better than the film" is a complete, utter and irredeemable tool.

Heh, for once the movie was better than the book. The humor in the book was darker and more bitter, lacked the lighthearted tone of the movie.

What's a ponce?

[daddy1gringo]

Billy Crystal: Go away or I'll call the Goon Squad.
Andre the Giant: I'm on the Goon Squad.
Billy Crystal: You are the Goon Squad.

Que tal. Mi nombre es Inego Montoya. Tu mataste a mi padre. Preparate para morir.

[mandyb]

Sugg's Law: The first ponce to say "Ooo, the book is so much better than the film" is a complete, utter and irredeemable tool.

Heh, for once the movie was better than the book. The humor in the book was darker and more bitter, lacked the lighthearted tone of the movie.

What's a ponce?

A ponce is slang for a poof.

Also....yes this movie was good, and I'd watch it again, but it's far from being the best movie of all time - (whoever said that)

[jiminski]

Sugg's Law: The first ponce to say "Ooo, the book is so much better than the film" is a complete, utter and irredeemable tool.

Heh, for once the movie was better than the book. The humor in the book was darker and more bitter, lacked the lighthearted tone of the movie.

What's a ponce?

A ponce is slang for a poof.

Also....yes this movie was good, and I'd watch it again, but it's far from being the best movie of all time - (whoever said that)

no i think a ponce was the name given to a 'Pimp' Mandy .. i'll have a look.


yeah and then, I agree, in more modern usage it is for an effeminate dandy!

[RiskTycoon]

no more rhyming i mean it!

[MeDeFe]

Anybody want a peanut?

[jonesthecurl]

"ponce"
I've heard both meanings. Prime meaning: useless person (a pimp lives off other's earnings - and thus to "ponce off" someone is to sponge off them, or be a parasite, and doing something pointless, especially in a pretentious manner, can be called "poncing about".)

[suggs]

"ponce"
I've heard both meanings. Prime meaning: useless person (a pimp lives off other's earnings - and thus to "ponce off" someone is to sponge off them, or be a parasite, and doing something pointless, especially in a pretentious manner, can be called "poncing about".)

Yeah, technically a "ponce" is slang for a pimp.
But round my way we use it as general slang for a show off, or someone pretentious or pompous. Mostly cos its cool for alliterative purposes.
Thus, my post has been that of a complete, irredeemable , pompus ponce.

[PLAYER57832]

Sugg's Law: The first ponce to say "Ooo, the book is so much better than the film" is a complete, utter and irredeemable tool.

Does this apply to Harry Potter?

The first one .. no.

The later movies diverge significantly from the books.

Interestingly, I found the latest did a decent job of trying to capture some of the more significant plot points completely ignored in Chamber of Secrets, Prizoner of Askaban and Goblet of Fire. You con't get the "same" story as in the book, but given that he could not redo the old movies, I think he did decently.

[kerntheconkerer]

Anybody want a peanut?

lol i do!

[MeDeFe]

Anybody want a peanut?

lol i do!

Wrong answer, you're supposed to scream.

[PLAYER57832]

Anybody want a peanut?

lol i do!

Wrong answer, you're supposed to scream.

AAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!


Or, make that:

AAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!

[MeDeFe]

Anybody want a peanut?

lol i do!

Wrong answer, you're supposed to scream.

AAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!

Or, make that:

AAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!

That's more like it.

[Sackett58]

The new box office smash "Wanking All The Way", although dramatic, and full of action packed squirts, is a pale imitation of the scholarly epic autobiograhy by S. U. Gggs - here are a few reviews of the original, classic, first edition:

"A pile of wank" - The Times
"A wanky pile of wank" - The Independant
"Great tits!" - The Sun
"A neo-chauvinistic exploration of joyous, individualistic self gratication" - The Guardian
"Appalilng" - G. Micheal
"Whats your phone number?" - S. U. Ggs.
"f*ck off, you're banned" - T. W. Ill.

I found the 20 minutes devoted to the "Welsh rarebit" in front of the fireplace a classic scene. Only compareable to Russ Meyer endeavors. Bravo

[bedub1]

So S. Morgenstern wrote The Princess Bride back in 1923 or something? And William Goldmans father read it to william? And william decided to write his own version? And they made a movie out of it? So it's a movie about a book thats about a book?

I just checked out "William Goldman - The Princess Bride" Did I check out the right book? I looked for the one by Morgenstern but couldn't find it.....

[jonesthecurl]

So S. Morgenstern wrote The Princess Bride back in 1923 or something? And William Goldmans father read it to william? And william decided to write his own version? And they made a movie out of it? So it's a movie about a book thats about a book?

I just checked out "William Goldman - The Princess Bride" Did I check out the right book? I looked for the one by Morgenstern but couldn't find it.....

SPOILER ALERT - if you have any inclination to read the book and also see the movie, read no further, I'm about to give too much away.

Now you begin to see what's going on.
There was no S Morgenstern version.
The whole thing is a work about storytelling. Goldman tells us how he finds as a grownup that his favourite ever book is actually pretty dull for the most part. he tells us how he bought a copy for his own son and was astonished that the boy didn't like it. He then discovers that when his grandad read it to him, he edited it, leaving out the dull and complicated parts. Goldman, according to the book, decides to recreat the "good parts" version like his father read to him for our delight.
Then he makes the film, showing the story of the grandfather reading the book to the sick boy, but leaves out almost everything about the "larger story" story - and further leaves out vital parts of the reduced plot in typical Hollywood style. This is why the book is much darker than the film, its all a part of the story about how you tell the same story under different circumstances.
The fact that the original "story" being told, edited, re-edited, rediscovered, etc. doesn't even exist is itself a part of the fantasy.
Stunningly good stuff, and one of teh few true exercises in telling one big story in several parts and in different media.

[Ditocoaf]

So: has anybody read the book and seen the film? Especially since my recommendation?
I'd love to see if people agreed with my assessment.

I've experienced both, and I definitely agree. While seeing both is better than just the movie, people who have only read the book (if they exist) are majorly missing out as well.

But yeah... any of the stories in the introduction, etc, about how the book / movie came to be... they're all part of the story as well. Don't skip the introduction. If you have the "20th anniversary" edition of the book, read the introduction to that part, as well -- that helps with how the movie and the book fit together.

[bedub1]

So S. Morgenstern wrote The Princess Bride back in 1923 or something? And William Goldmans father read it to william? And william decided to write his own version? And they made a movie out of it? So it's a movie about a book thats about a book?

I just checked out "William Goldman - The Princess Bride" Did I check out the right book? I looked for the one by Morgenstern but couldn't find it.....

SPOILER ALERT - if you have any inclination to read the book and also see the movie, read no further, I'm about to give too much away.

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agghhhh!!! I want to read the garbled text but don't wanna ruin the book! I'll just have to power read it....hmmm...255 pages....see ya guys in a couple hours....

[shadowsteel9]

So: has anybody read the book and seen the film? Especially since my recommendation?
I'd love to see if people agreed with my assessment.

I have and i agree

[bedub1]

So: has anybody read the book and seen the film? Especially since my recommendation?
I'd love to see if people agreed with my assessment.

I've experienced both, and I definitely agree. While seeing both is better than just the movie, people who have only read the book (if they exist) are majorly missing out as well.

But yeah... any of the stories in the introduction, etc, about how the book / movie came to be... they're all part of the story as well. Don't skip the introduction. If you have the "20th anniversary" edition of the book, read the introduction to that part, as well -- that helps with how the movie and the book fit together.

Just finished reading the book a couple days ago. I got the origional version of the book from the 70's from the library, and purposely choose not to get the 20th edition...because I peaked through it real quick and didn't want to read that shit. When I return this one I'll sit down and read the intro to the 20th edition.

The book was great. Fantastic actually. Ever the more so since I had seen the movie 100 times before reading the book. I noticed where they changed things in the movie from the book, and was okay with it, although I preferred the movie. And visualizing the characters as who they are in the movie was just wild. I usually create my own image of the characters in a book, but this was better. I never would have understood how big Andre the Giant really is etc. I'm a fan of both even more now.