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I think therefore I am God

Postby bedub1 on Sat May 31, 2008 12:21 pm

Jesus was told he was the son of God. It took him 26 years to believe it. Once he did, I think I am the son of God, therefore I am.

Question is....if you were told at that age you were God, and taught it all your life, and finally came to believe it...would you be God? Could you perform miracles? I think so.

If you think you are a worthless piece of shit...you will probably work all your life to prove it and make it come true. In order to succeed, you must believe you can. The mind is very powerful.
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Re: I think therefore I am God

Postby jay_a2j on Sat May 31, 2008 12:57 pm

Just wondering, where did you hear that it took to the age of 26 for Jesus to believe He was God?
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Re: I think therefore I am God

Postby InkL0sed on Sat May 31, 2008 1:03 pm

I think therefore I am not a virgin.
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Re: I think therefore I am God

Postby bedub1 on Sat May 31, 2008 1:06 pm

jay_a2j wrote:Just wondering, where did you hear that it took to the age of 26 for Jesus to believe He was God?


I just assume it's what the "church" is trying to cover up by not releasing documentation relating to this time period. there are 26 years of documentation missing about jesus's life from the bible. Maybe it's not 26...but it's a really long time....

"the Bible recorded the birth of Jesus Christ and follows His life up to about 12 years old.
the life of Jesus is not considered again till the age of 30."

So I guess 18 years.....and at 12 you are pretty impressionable....
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Re: I think therefore I am God

Postby 2dimes on Sat May 31, 2008 1:30 pm

Oddly enough that's kind of what Jesus taught.
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However, even though Jesus said it's possible, you probably don't have enough faith to move the mountain into the sea, which logically would fall short of being God. Have fun trying though.
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Re: I think therefore I am God

Postby Ray Rider on Sat May 31, 2008 1:38 pm

bedub1 wrote:Jesus was told he was the son of God. It took him 26 years to believe it.

The first time Jesus speaks in the Bible, He says that God is His Father; so right from the very beginning He gave them clues to his deity as part of the trinity.

Luke 2:41-51 "His parents went to Jerusalem every year at the Feast of the Passover. And when He was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem according to the custom of the feast. When they had finished the days, as they returned, the Boy Jesus lingered behind in Jerusalem. And Joseph and His mother[l] did not know it; but supposing Him to have been in the company, they went a day’s journey, and sought Him among their relatives and acquaintances. So when they did not find Him, they returned to Jerusalem, seeking Him. Now so it was that after three days they found Him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the teachers, both listening to them and asking them questions. And all who heard Him were astonished at His understanding and answers. So when they saw Him, they were amazed; and His mother said to Him, “Son, why have You done this to us? Look, Your father and I have sought You anxiously.” And He said to them, “Why did you seek Me? Did you not know that I must be about My Father’s business?” But they did not understand the statement which He spoke to them. Then He went down with them and came to Nazareth, and was subject to them, but His mother kept all these things in her heart. And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men."

bedub1 wrote:Question is....if you were told at that age you were God, and taught it all your life, and finally came to believe it...would you be God? Could you perform miracles? I think so.

If you think you are a worthless piece of shit...you will probably work all your life to prove it and make it come true. In order to succeed, you must believe you can. The mind is very powerful.

Have you ever watched American Idol? Many of the kids on there had great support from the family and friends--everybody told them they were outstanding singers. But even though they were told that right from the start, and even though they believed in themselves, it wasn't enough. Most of them failed the judge's standards. Believing that you can do something, and having people support you from the start doesn't guaruntee success.
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Re: I think therefore I am God

Postby Gregrios on Sat May 31, 2008 2:50 pm

Ray Rider wrote:
bedub1 wrote:Jesus was told he was the son of God. It took him 26 years to believe it.

The first time Jesus speaks in the Bible, He says that God is His Father; so right from the very beginning He gave them clues to his deity as part of the trinity.

Luke 2:41-51 "His parents went to Jerusalem every year at the Feast of the Passover. And when He was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem according to the custom of the feast. When they had finished the days, as they returned, the Boy Jesus lingered behind in Jerusalem. And Joseph and His mother[l] did not know it; but supposing Him to have been in the company, they went a day’s journey, and sought Him among their relatives and acquaintances. So when they did not find Him, they returned to Jerusalem, seeking Him. Now so it was that after three days they found Him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the teachers, both listening to them and asking them questions. And all who heard Him were astonished at His understanding and answers. So when they saw Him, they were amazed; and His mother said to Him, “Son, why have You done this to us? Look, Your father and I have sought You anxiously.” And He said to them, “Why did you seek Me? Did you not know that I must be about My Father’s business?” But they did not understand the statement which He spoke to them. Then He went down with them and came to Nazareth, and was subject to them, but His mother kept all these things in her heart. And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men."

bedub1 wrote:Question is....if you were told at that age you were God, and taught it all your life, and finally came to believe it...would you be God? Could you perform miracles? I think so.

If you think you are a worthless piece of shit...you will probably work all your life to prove it and make it come true. In order to succeed, you must believe you can. The mind is very powerful.

Have you ever watched American Idol? Many of the kids on there had great support from the family and friends--everybody told them they were outstanding singers. But even though they were told that right from the start, and even though they believed in themselves, it wasn't enough. Most of them failed the judge's standards. Believing that you can do something, and having people support you from the start doesn't guaruntee success.


That's an extremely bad example. The problem with it is that you're only looking at 1 paticular moment in a singer's career. I'm sure that alot of the American Idols who don't win would simply quit and turn their career in another direction. Where as a strongly determined individual would not stop until they reach their goal.

If everything we dream comes to be on the very 1st try then we all would be living our dream. These singers might have been told they were great singers from a young age but I assure you that each one of them had their share of doubts, even the one's who win American Idol.

To have unflinching faith is one of the most difficult things to acheive but if acheived then anything is possible. The problem is that society has taught us that the only way to acheive our dreams is through hard work. This is true if your faith is not perfect. Jesus had perfect faith and therefore was able to do whatever he pleased.

I like to think I have unflinching faith but I don't. Sure I have strong faith but doubts always find a way into my mind. Maybe someday I'll be able to prove this theory correct. My faith does however heal me when I'm feeling ill. Faith in my own health is pretty close to perfect but as for other aspects in my life, not so much.
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Re: I think therefore I am God

Postby jay_a2j on Sat May 31, 2008 3:08 pm

No matter how much he believes it, no matter how much support he receives, William Hung will never, ever be a good singer. [-X
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Re: I think therefore I am God

Postby Neoteny on Sat May 31, 2008 8:08 pm

jay_a2j wrote:No matter how much he believes it, no matter how much support he receives, William Hung will never, ever be a good singer. [-X


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Re: I think therefore I am God

Postby muy_thaiguy on Sat May 31, 2008 8:12 pm

Neoteny wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:No matter how much he believes it, no matter how much support he receives, William Hung will never, ever be a good singer. [-X


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Re: I think therefore I am God

Postby Jenos Ridan on Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:27 am

2dimes wrote:Oddly enough that's kind of what Jesus taught.
Matthew 21:21 (King James Version)
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21Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.


However, even though Jesus said it's possible, you probably don't have enough faith to move the mountain into the sea, which logically would fall short of being God. Have fun trying though.


I'm of the notion that God does it and in that instance you mention, He does it through you. Obviously, no technology or force of worldly might short of the forces of nature can move mountains. We can kill fig trees with poisons now, but moving mountains are still out of our natural ablity. God is God, so even if you did it, you only, ONLY, did what you did because God is who He is.

But I do not expect miracles to happen every time I pray for it. I don't think that anyone is really ready for that to be the "norm".
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