Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 5!

[jnd94]

Also, I have a huge feeling that I was not the only one to get a blessing today. I'm the only one who's being public about it.
These blessings are clearly given out by the princessess for either the town or mafia's benefit. It's a free-for-all.
Now considering I'm using mine for the town's benefit, voting me even when I was partly right is complete lunacy.
Would we know as much about pmc's role now if I had not spoke up? I think not.

I'm not surpirsed to see ga7 and Fir on my bandwagon, but Flores and especially pmc should know better.
I cleared your name pmc, and this is how you repay me?
Unbelievable.

That means nothing. In fact, because you so publicly talked about your pro-town investigation, and how it helped the town out makes me think you are even scummier.*cough* The game is scum pretending to be town. A scum player would do 2 things with an investigation -- investigate someone we are talking about, for the interests of the town, and use ti to his advantage as helping the town. The other option is using the advantage for said mafia player's own advantage, and not talk about it with anyone. Being so public about how you are helping the town just shows that you aren't pro-town at all.

EBWOP

[DRoZ]

Not yet.
But FOS all people still voting for PMC. He's been all but proven townie, and you guys still keep your vote on him.

life got busy (2 jobs, thesis and all, not everyone is a highschooler) but now that i see that someone found a fitting role for him Unvote pmc thought still i dont see how the black feathers fit this whole stuff.

That's what I'm thinking. Also, if you remember back to the investigation, MM asked who and when AD said pmc, he said he wanted someone else. I'm starting to think, that he didn't want to investigate PMC so that he didn't show up as town and stop his lynch. Which could have meant a fake investigation using a clue from how he was speaking to something scummy looking. (A crow) I mean the black part is the weird part of the thing. Why a black feather. I think it was just something MM said to get PMC guilty. Also with the weird investagation, knowing MM it doesn't sound too far off from something that he'd make up.

Anyway... Unvote Vote: MM

great catch, I agree entirely, all the investigations yesterday gave solid results why would it change to giving a clue that as far as we can see has absolutely nothing to do with my role, even after reading my story I see nothing to do with black feathers.

unvote vote MM

Still fos jnd though you cant let him off the hook because he usually acts scummy.

*mumble mumble* The investigations yesterday were described to me as "one-shot flavor investigations" so why they gave off such solid results is beyond me, I was told that they would give one bit of information about the player. The reason the investigations could be different today is because it is coming from someone/something else, or it is all made up. I am still upset that kalish isnt coming back as he had said he was on to something before he went away.

[mandalorian2298]

These are the tears of joy. Our little Pikachu became a productive part of Mafia game. Great spot Fircoal , especially seeing how MM messed up his attempt to excuse himself by not reading the story.

Are you saying that I'm not usually productive.

Sure you are. You produce spam, your friendly presence produces warmth in our hearts, you produce an extra vote for me on Day 1. But this is the first time that you produced help for the Town.

So basically I suck.

Would you cheer up already? I am trying to give you a compliment for using brilliant deduction skills to catch the bad guy. Put on a proud face instead of sulking!

[Minister Masket]

Once again, you lot have missed the point. Perhaps I'm not being direct enough.
THIS post of mine makes up my defense.

I has just been given another gift! It's apparently another one-shot investigation thing.
Instead of choosing a random target myself, are they any requests on someone you lot would like me to use it on?

Let's say I am pretending that I can investigate, and that you lot had chosen a different target, say Fircoal.
What then? How could I have goten away with making up a clue about his role? The odds are impossible.

Of course you knew it had to do with a bird. He went TWEET TWEET! I wonder what else that could have been?

Have you forgotten that he was a dog yesterday? Or that he denied being connected to either?
Yes it's easy to make up a clue for him, but that's your fault for choosing him as an investigation!
Why are you blaming me for investigating him?

[Minister Masket]

Maybe you were trying to frame him as a villain of that story. That seems more logical.

It seems logical when you don't read any of my posts, which you are clearly doing.
I didn't suspect him before the investigation, and I don't suspect him now.

I voted him because I thought he was lying about his role PR. As soon as that story came up, I unvoted. Never once, did I remotly come close to getting him lynched, so I ask you again:
How am I trying to frame him? He was the target of my investigation, of your choosing. That's all.

I think you should look closer to home about the framing buisness. I think I'm being framed here!
And the leaders of this bandwagon?
ga7 and Fircoal.
ga7 is always trying to kick me out of all mafia games, no idea why of course!
And Fircoal has never forgiven me for making up that "Mafia PGO role". Which was completely plausible!

I am the victim of two grudges here. Flores, pmc and others, do not be taken in by plans. I can be a real help here.

[ga7]

I'm pretty wasted but just would like to point out something... I never voted you Masket, so quit your babbling and get your facts straight. Will check back tomorrow but for now my feeling is that he doesn't have it in him and genuinely wanted to help town... Ah well there's many inconsistencies that I can't really analyze drunk so will weigh on later. For now FOS GT seeing your behavior I have a hunch you're a pro-scum zero

[Skoffin]

Let's say I am pretending that I can investigate, and that you lot had chosen a different target, say Fircoal.
What then? How could I have goten away with making up a clue about his role? The odds are impossible.

This is where there is a bit of a break down in your defence. Just by looking at the line of discussion at the time one could just assume that other players would suggest a investigation on Pmc. So by asking you knew who you would be told to investigate and therefore not assume any responsibility for it later.

[nagerous]

I'm pretty wasted but just would like to point out something... I never voted you Masket, so quit your babbling and get your facts straight. Will check back tomorrow but for now my feeling is that he doesn't have it in him and genuinely wanted to help town... Ah well there's many inconsistencies that I can't really analyze drunk so will weigh on later. For now FOS GT seeing your behavior I have a hunch you're a pro-scum zero

pretty wasted my ass, if you're going to do wasted on cc you gotta do it in style.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Let's say I am pretending that I can investigate, and that you lot had chosen a different target, say Fircoal.
What then? How could I have goten away with making up a clue about his role? The odds are impossible.

This is where there is a bit of a break down in your defence. Just by looking at the line of discussion at the time one could just assume that other players would suggest a investigation on Pmc. So by asking you knew who you would be told to investigate and therefore not assume any responsibility for it later.

While that might be true Skoffin, it is also possible that the concensus of the town would be to go ahead and lynch said person and to try to have an investigation done on another player to play for the future. I for one am not for lynching MM at this time.

[Fircoal]

Once again, you lot have missed the point. Perhaps I'm not being direct enough.
THIS post of mine makes up my defense.

I has just been given another gift! It's apparently another one-shot investigation thing.
Instead of choosing a random target myself, are they any requests on someone you lot would like me to use it on?

Let's say I am pretending that I can investigate, and that you lot had chosen a different target, say Fircoal.
What then? How could I have goten away with making up a clue about his role? The odds are impossible.

Of course you knew it had to do with a bird. He went TWEET TWEET! I wonder what else that could have been?

Have you forgotten that he was a dog yesterday? Or that he denied being connected to either?
Yes it's easy to make up a clue for him, but that's your fault for choosing him as an investigation!
Why are you blaming me for investigating him?

I never blamed you for investigating him. I just said that when you did it, you did use it to frame him. I in fact said that your refusal to vote PMC was scummy in it's own. I think you may have wanted to frame someone else originally.

And yes, he was a dog. YESTERDAY!!! He is a bird today. Which would you pick to frame him with yesterday's info or today's?

[pmchugh]

I reckon MM did investigate but he got town, and didnt like the results so made something up. I think that not all of these investigations have went to town and I see no reason for a 'black feather' to be the result of my investigation I doubt that there is any cross-over in the stories as I even have the name the Counts son. I think this is made up complaetely, my vote stays.

[cmckinney]

It does seem odd that everybody else who got these investigations got a clear cut result "town" "scum"

But you seem to be the only person who got that special type of investigation. That in itself seems really strange.

I think that PMC and the gang have made a very strong case against you,

so Vote MM

[LSU Tiger Josh]

my investigation did not give a "clear cut town or scum" ruling. It gave me a hint similair to what MM got on PMC so I am not voting him.

[cena-rules]

I think we should lynch MM

If hes town FOS pmc
If hes scum FOS josh

[pmchugh]

my investigation did not give a "clear cut town or scum" ruling. It gave me a hint similair to what MM got on PMC so I am not voting him.

If your telling the truth then there is no reason to vote MM, unvote tweet tweet

cena why would MM being town lead to a FOS on me?

[pmchugh]

unvote tweet tweet forgot the blue.

[cena-rules]

my investigation did not give a "clear cut town or scum" ruling. It gave me a hint similair to what MM got on PMC so I am not voting him.

If your telling the truth then there is no reason to vote MM, unvote tweet tweet

cena why would MM being town lead to a FOS on me?

because
a)it makes sense in my head
b)he could have got the black feather raven thing right
c)I think gifts only go to town

[mandalorian2298]

I think we should lynch MM

If hes town FOS pmc
If hes scum FOS josh

If he's third party FOS Cena (I'm just covering all the bases )

[cmckinney]

my investigation did not give a "clear cut town or scum" ruling. It gave me a hint similair to what MM got on PMC so I am not voting him.

If your telling the truth then there is no reason to vote MM, unvote tweet tweet

cena why would MM being town lead to a FOS on me?

because
a)it makes sense in my head
b)he could have got the black feather raven thing right
c)I think gifts only go to town

A. It doesn't make sense in our heads
B. If he did, i still don't see the real connection between a black feather and scum
C. I doubt this

[cena-rules]

a) and thats why muumy says Im special

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my investigation did not give a "clear cut town or scum" ruling. It gave me a hint similair to what MM got on PMC so I am not voting him.

What was your investigation again?

[Minister Masket]

I reckon MM did investigate but he got town, and didnt like the results so made something up.

Nope. I got "black feather", that's it. I still think it's connected to the Seven Ravens story.

I doubt that there is any cross-over in the stories as I even have the name the Counts son. I think this is made up complaetely, my vote stays.

Not sure how you claiming disproves my theory. I disagree, I think he has intercrossed some stories for the game's benefit.
Also, every popular character from the tales are gathered in one place, so naturally there's going to be intercrossing.

Why did you claim anyway?

[Minister Masket]

Let's say I am pretending that I can investigate, and that you lot had chosen a different target, say Fircoal.
What then? How could I have goten away with making up a clue about his role? The odds are impossible.

This is where there is a bit of a break down in your defence. Just by looking at the line of discussion at the time one could just assume that other players would suggest a investigation on Pmc. So by asking you knew who you would be told to investigate and therefore not assume any responsibility for it later.

Actually if you go back aboot 11 pages, you'll see I was accused of not reading the posts properly!

This is why I'm surprised that many players have been taken up in my bandwagon.
There's as many holes in the prosecution as there is in the defense!

[Selin]

*mumble mumble* The investigations yesterday were described to me as "one-shot flavor investigations" so why they gave off such solid results is beyond me, I was told that they would give one bit of information about the player. The reason the investigations could be different today is because it is coming from someone/something else, or it is all made up. I am still upset that kalish isnt coming back as he had said he was on to something before he went away.

Flavor Investigation gives an article of the investigated person as a clue to that persons identity.


Now first post of cena about his investigation:

Sigh Bastards a believer unvote
Ill explain
I got a gift of an invesigation from the princess. I used it straight away on / and he's a believer.
Now / I have cleared you I want you to talk. Why wouldn't you talk?? Are you infact the princess

Cena stated that he got a clear result .


Now comes second result of MM.

cena speaks the truth, / is in fact a princess. I got a "gift" from another princess - a one-shot day investigation result thingy.
....

MM stated he got a clear result. He even knew / is a princess and later we learned also that cena knew it too.


Now comes third result of AD.

She gave one shot abilities to 11 people...and I think the princess is going to die... I think

And hence her lynch would be pointless, even though she is confirmed...
This would also indicate that we know we can now trust Cena and MM...

Only if it's certain that / is the princess.
We only think that because Cena and MM say so... we need to avoid circular logic.

Well, I used one of the one shots too... And I used it on Cena... He's a Believer, so I trust him.
Didn't tell me his role though.

AD didn't get the role of cena, but he stated cena is believer, i.e. a half clear result.


2. day investigations. We start with MM.

....
Anyway I have it now, although it's slightly different from last time. Apparently it's an investiagtion that gives out clues instead of alliances.
A Black Feather
This ringing any bells with anyone?

MM got an unclear result, just a clue.


And than comes LSU.

my investigation did not give a "clear cut town or scum" ruling. It gave me a hint similair to what MM got on PMC so I am not voting him.

Also LSU got an unclear result, just a clue.



FINAL CONCLUSION:

MM got a very clear result on Day 1 and posted accordingly the truth. He couldn't have foreseen that the results will get unclearer day by day. That is a clear indication for me that MM posted the correct result (whatever he got from Talapus) also on Day 2. That gives me no %100 answer if he is a believer or not, however makes me believe that MM is most probably a believer.




We know from Droz that he gave another Flavor Investigation to a fourth person on day 1.
Droz, it's time now to tell us who he was.
Although you clearly stated that you will reveal his identity, we have never heard about him up to now. So either he is submarining or not reading the thread at all. Knowing his identity may give us further clues.

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what? that was an investigation result? I thought it was a guess.
I'm not a princess (that I know of)