Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 5!

[Fircoal]

Not yet.
But FOS all people still voting for PMC. He's been all but proven townie, and you guys still keep your vote on him.

life got busy (2 jobs, thesis and all, not everyone is a highschooler) but now that i see that someone found a fitting role for him Unvote pmc thought still i dont see how the black feathers fit this whole stuff.

That's what I'm thinking. Also, if you remember back to the investigation, MM asked who and when AD said pmc, he said he wanted someone else. I'm starting to think, that he didn't want to investigate PMC so that he didn't show up as town and stop his lynch. Which could have meant a fake investigation using a clue from how he was speaking to something scummy looking. (A crow) I mean the black part is the weird part of the thing. Why a black feather. I think it was just something MM said to get PMC guilty. Also with the weird investagation, knowing MM it doesn't sound too far off from something that he'd make up.

Anyway... Unvote Vote: MM

[FloresDelMal]

Flores put a LOT of pressure on pmchugh. She said he's a barking wolf scum...that he will eat all your bread and children, and he'll drink all your wine. Do you think he'd really drink all of the wine? Flores also voted for pmchugh for his lynch pushing on william...so why do you push so hard on pmchugh? isn't that the same? FOS Flores

Flores, could you respond to this so I can vote you instead of jnd?

its quite simple, i thought i made a good case deffending william, a case that was easily and quickly overlooked, and when i suspected pmc i thought i was in the right spot about him being scum, then when a tale hinting that him might be pro town was found i unvoted him, and that's it, no big mystery about it, and please feel free to vote me for whatever reason you might concoct now.

[Talapus]

Vote Count:

pmchugh(1) - nagerous
jnd94(6) - pmchugh, Selin, ga7, got tonkaed, walelia2, Mountainlion
Minister Masket(1) - Fircoal


With 26 alive it takes 14 to lynch.

[MountainLion]

I agree with Fircoal. jnd acts scummy all the time, he never ever acts like innocent town. That makes it impossible to determine what he is, but that's jnd.

I also was thinking the same thing about MM since / uncovered pmchugh's story. The black as unholy night feather makes no complete sense at all to pmchugh's story or even himself. The fact that pmchugh doesn't understand the black feathers is what confuses me. So either Tonka is right about Tal knowing something about pmchugh's role that he doesn't know or MM is lying right to our faces and pointing and laughing. How was it that MM was the only one to get a gift ever in this game? How could it be another investigation when several hundred were given out the day before?

Unvote, Vote MM

...and if MM were to come up scum, FOS Tonka

[cena-rules]

I like that logic

unvote which my vote wasnt counted anyway

vote mm

[pmchugh]

Not yet.
But FOS all people still voting for PMC. He's been all but proven townie, and you guys still keep your vote on him.

life got busy (2 jobs, thesis and all, not everyone is a highschooler) but now that i see that someone found a fitting role for him Unvote pmc thought still i dont see how the black feathers fit this whole stuff.

That's what I'm thinking. Also, if you remember back to the investigation, MM asked who and when AD said pmc, he said he wanted someone else. I'm starting to think, that he didn't want to investigate PMC so that he didn't show up as town and stop his lynch. Which could have meant a fake investigation using a clue from how he was speaking to something scummy looking. (A crow) I mean the black part is the weird part of the thing. Why a black feather. I think it was just something MM said to get PMC guilty. Also with the weird investagation, knowing MM it doesn't sound too far off from something that he'd make up.

Anyway... Unvote Vote: MM

great catch, I agree entirely, all the investigations yesterday gave solid results why would it change to giving a clue that as far as we can see has absolutely nothing to do with my role, even after reading my story I see nothing to do with black feathers.

unvote vote MM

Still fos jnd though you cant let him off the hook because he usually acts scummy.

[mandalorian2298]

mmmh i suppose you are right, plus now i remember pmc have a locked role after day 3, that is when him have his last animal conversation, i think the black feather will make sense when that role is not locked anymore.

And about mandalorian logic about cinderella claiming, i dont understand how its related to william, and how could do any good, i mean i think is not far reached to think that cinderella must be one of the princesses; can you please explain your theory a bit more?

William got lynched which means that over half of people voted for him. If Cindy was among those who lynched him, that would mean that Rump was also among them, which wouldn't help us much (since the law of probability alone tells us that at least one, probably more, scum were in on the William lynch). Hence, assuming my theory about the meaning of the message is correct, Cindy should only claim in case that she didn't end Day 1 as a part of William's lynch, because that will give us a relativly narrow field of suspects for the role of Rump (who is certanly scum, since he is the bad guy of his tale).

Not yet.
But FOS all people still voting for PMC. He's been all but proven townie, and you guys still keep your vote on him.

life got busy (2 jobs, thesis and all, not everyone is a highschooler) but now that i see that someone found a fitting role for him Unvote pmc thought still i dont see how the black feathers fit this whole stuff.

That's what I'm thinking. Also, if you remember back to the investigation, MM asked who and when AD said pmc, he said he wanted someone else. I'm starting to think, that he didn't want to investigate PMC so that he didn't show up as town and stop his lynch. Which could have meant a fake investigation using a clue from how he was speaking to something scummy looking. (A crow) I mean the black part is the weird part of the thing. Why a black feather. I think it was just something MM said to get PMC guilty. Also with the weird investagation, knowing MM it doesn't sound too far off from something that he'd make up.

Anyway... Unvote Vote: MM

These are the tears of joy. Our little Pikachu became a productive part of Mafia game. Great spot Fircoal , especially seeing how MM messed up his attempt to excuse himself by not reading the story.

Flores- I have no idea about the black feather either, I was extremely surprised when MM said it.

Ok, you're apparently a bird at the moment, therefore I got a feather as a clue. See the connection?

*pats head* Try to keep up, there's a good chap.

Still not sure if his role is scummy or otherwise, but I'll UNVOTE to play safe.

My dear MM, the guy in the story never becomes a bird , he just learns their language. Also, the only two birds mentioned in the tale are white doves, so it is obvious that you faked an investigation to get PMC lynched.

unvote vote Minister Masket

[Fircoal]

These are the tears of joy. Our little Pikachu became a productive part of Mafia game. Great spot Fircoal , especially seeing how MM messed up his attempt to excuse himself by not reading the story.

Are you saying that I'm not usually productive.

[pmchugh]

Not yet.
But FOS all people still voting for PMC. He's been all but proven townie, and you guys still keep your vote on him.

life got busy (2 jobs, thesis and all, not everyone is a highschooler) but now that i see that someone found a fitting role for him Unvote pmc thought still i dont see how the black feathers fit this whole stuff.

That's what I'm thinking. Also, if you remember back to the investigation, MM asked who and when AD said pmc, he said he wanted someone else. I'm starting to think, that he didn't want to investigate PMC so that he didn't show up as town and stop his lynch. Which could have meant a fake investigation using a clue from how he was speaking to something scummy looking. (A crow) I mean the black part is the weird part of the thing. Why a black feather. I think it was just something MM said to get PMC guilty. Also with the weird investagation, knowing MM it doesn't sound too far off from something that he'd make up.

Anyway... Unvote Vote: MM

great catch, I agree entirely, all the investigations yesterday gave solid results why would it change to giving a clue that as far as we can see has absolutely nothing to do with my role, even after reading my story I see nothing to do with black feathers.

unvote vote MM

Still fos jnd though you cant let him off the hook because he usually acts scummy. tweet tweet

EBWOP tweet tweet I need a new memory.

[jnd94]

WOW. GREAT FIND chu.

[FloresDelMal]

ok, first i thought that minister might have been innocent since here (in chile) the most common kind of doves is the black feathered dove (the one with metallic colours in the neck), but i went back to the tale and there is no chance of mistake, it clearly state "snow-white doves" so for now, til a better catch appears Vote MM

[Talapus]

Vote Count:

pmchugh(1) - nagerous
jnd94(5) - pmchugh, Selin, ga7, got tonkaed, walelia2
Minister Masket(5) - Fircoal, Mountainlion, cena-rules(Sorry I missed it before dude), mandalorian2298, FloresDelMal


With 26 alive it takes 14 to lynch.

[jnd94]

*cough*

vote

*wheeze*

MM

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Wait, if we look at the day scenes so far, we cannot rule out the possibility of crossovers between stories. While it is true that most of these stories have been pretty true to the originally, you probably have noticed there are changes so as to fit in more than on character into scenes.
Such as the tailor in heaven casting judgment on someone's lusting over the princess, or (theoretically) Rumpelstiltskin helping/tricking Cinderella instead of the woman in his story.
I don't think anyone would make up such a easily dis-proven lie without cause. My conclusion is PM may be (even if he himself is not aware or it) training with something associated with black feathers to learn how to speak to birds.
Though I suppose it's only a possibility.

[Minister Masket]

thought still i dont see how the black feathers fit this whole stuff.

That's what I'm thinking. Also, if you remember back to the investigation, MM asked who and when AD said pmc, he said he wanted someone else. I'm starting to think, that he didn't want to investigate PMC so that he didn't show up as town and stop his lynch. Which could have meant a fake investigation using a clue from how he was speaking to something scummy looking. (A crow) I mean the black part is the weird part of the thing. Why a black feather. I think it was just something MM said to get PMC guilty. Also with the weird investagation, knowing MM it doesn't sound too far off from something that he'd make up.

Anyway... Unvote Vote: MM

First off, an aplology.
No, I didn't read the link. I thought everything in it was laid out in the posts that followed.
However, what Fir has said here, is completely improbable. Make him look guilty? Did you even read my post?

Still not sure if his role is scummy or otherwise, but I'll UNVOTE to play safe

I would love for you to explain how unvoting him is a way of showing his guilt.
I would also like to remind my voters that you lot told me to investigate him. How on Earth could I have made up this investigation and got it part right, when I had no previous knowledge of his role? That applies to anyone I could've voted.

Just to throw even more spanners in the proverbial works, I discovered this story from Grimm's, which may be where the black feather came from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seven_Ravens

Perhaps Tal has intercrossed some Grimm stories?

[Minister Masket]

Also, I have a huge feeling that I was not the only one to get a blessing today. I'm the only one who's being public about it.
These blessings are clearly given out by the princessess for either the town or mafia's benefit. It's a free-for-all.
Now considering I'm using mine for the town's benefit, voting me even when I was partly right is complete lunacy.
Would we know as much about pmc's role now if I had not spoke up? I think not.

I'm not surpirsed to see ga7 and Fir on my bandwagon, but Flores and especially pmc should know better.
I cleared your name pmc, and this is how you repay me?
Unbelievable.

[jnd94]

Also, I have a huge feeling that I was not the only one to get a blessing today. I'm the only one who's being public about it.
These blessings are clearly given out by the princessess for either the town or mafia's benefit. It's a free-for-all.
Now considering I'm using mine for the town's benefit, voting me even when I was partly right is complete lunacy.
Would we know as much about pmc's role now if I had not spoke up? I think not.

I'm not surpirsed to see ga7 and Fir on my bandwagon, but Flores and especially pmc should know better.
I cleared your name pmc, and this is how you repay me?
Unbelievable.

That means nothing. In fact, because you so publicly talked about your pro-town investigation, and how it helped the town out makes me think you are even scummier. The game is scum pretending to be town. A scum player would do 2 things with an investigation -- investigate someone we are talking about, for the interests of the town, and use ti to his advantage as helping the town. The other option is using the advantage for said mafia player's own advantage, and not talk about it with anyone. Being so public about how you are helping the town just shows that you aren't pro-town at all.

[mandalorian2298]

These are the tears of joy. Our little Pikachu became a productive part of Mafia game. Great spot Fircoal , especially seeing how MM messed up his attempt to excuse himself by not reading the story.

Are you saying that I'm not usually productive.

Sure you are. You produce spam, your friendly presence produces warmth in our hearts, you produce an extra vote for me on Day 1. But this is the first time that you produced help for the Town.

[FloresDelMal]

MM if you make a solid deffense, or someone seems more threatening than you ill unvote you, you can count with that, but for now the vote stays.

[pmchugh]

Also, I have a huge feeling that I was not the only one to get a blessing today. I'm the only one who's being public about it.
These blessings are clearly given out by the princessess for either the town or mafia's benefit. It's a free-for-all.
Now considering I'm using mine for the town's benefit, voting me even when I was partly right is complete lunacy.
Would we know as much about pmc's role now if I had not spoke up? I think not.

I'm not surpirsed to see ga7 and Fir on my bandwagon, but Flores and especially pmc should know better.
I cleared your name pmc, and this is how you repay me?
Unbelievable.

tweet tweet

How did the black feather in anyway help / to find that story?

The reason he knows it was me is because I told everyone of my PR, day 1 dog, day 2 bird noises and day 3 frog noises. And the story fits perfectly it has nothing to do with a black feather or your investigation. Yes you unvoted me but you also provided information that could have led to my lynch, a black feather is not something that is associated with town.

I reckon you found that raven story and then hoped that other people would find it and bandwagon me.

You didnt clear me, / did.

Also why would you expect the experienced players to vote you but not me and flores?

And finally from your other post:

I would also like to remind my voters that you lot told me to investigate him. How on Earth could I have made up this investigation and got it part right, when I had no previous knowledge of his role? That applies to anyone I could've voted

I was already tweeting it was pretty obvious I was related to a bird.

unvote vote MM thrid time lucky.

[Fircoal]

These are the tears of joy. Our little Pikachu became a productive part of Mafia game. Great spot Fircoal , especially seeing how MM messed up his attempt to excuse himself by not reading the story.

Are you saying that I'm not usually productive.

Sure you are. You produce spam, your friendly presence produces warmth in our hearts, you produce an extra vote for me on Day 1. But this is the first time that you produced help for the Town.

So basically I suck.

[Fircoal]

thought still i dont see how the black feathers fit this whole stuff.

That's what I'm thinking. Also, if you remember back to the investigation, MM asked who and when AD said pmc, he said he wanted someone else. I'm starting to think, that he didn't want to investigate PMC so that he didn't show up as town and stop his lynch. Which could have meant a fake investigation using a clue from how he was speaking to something scummy looking. (A crow) I mean the black part is the weird part of the thing. Why a black feather. I think it was just something MM said to get PMC guilty. Also with the weird investagation, knowing MM it doesn't sound too far off from something that he'd make up.

Anyway... Unvote Vote: MM

First off, an aplology.
No, I didn't read the link. I thought everything in it was laid out in the posts that followed.
However, what Fir has said here, is completely improbable. Make him look guilty? Did you even read my post?

Still not sure if his role is scummy or otherwise, but I'll UNVOTE to play safe

I would love for you to explain how unvoting him is a way of showing his guilt.
I would also like to remind my voters that you lot told me to investigate him. How on Earth could I have made up this investigation and got it part right, when I had no previous knowledge of his role? That applies to anyone I could've voted.

Just to throw even more spanners in the proverbial works, I discovered this story from Grimm's, which may be where the black feather came from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seven_Ravens

Perhaps Tal has intercrossed some Grimm stories?

MM, look at what PMC said. You're basically making yourself look MORE scummy. Of course you knew it had to do with a bird. He went TWEET TWEET! I wonder what else that could have been? Also if you know about that story. Maybe you were trying to frame him as a villain of that story. That seems more logical.

[nagerous]

A little birdie told me I should unvote.

so there ya go.

I think fircoal makes a good case against minister masket, it will be interesting to see how this develops.

[Talapus]

Announcement:

spurgistan replaces kalishnikov.

[spurgistan]

Hello, I'm the pretty Miss Spurgistan, here to rescue the swarthy hero Kalashnikov... or something.

I'll reread sometime soon, getting drunk in a few.