Grimm's Fairy Tales Mafia Day 5!

[nagerous]

Vote PmcHugh


The fact that you're linked with a black feather does not bode well with me at all.

I'm going to trust Masket for now, I doubt he'd have concocted such a random lie and is most likely telling the truth.

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uhhhh, how exactly is being linked to giving away a town investigation a bad thing?

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uhhhh, how exactly is being linked to giving away a town investigation a bad thing?

wait, read the whole thing wrong, thought the feather was the investigation item. sorry.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

I'm pretty sure that the feather came from the 7 ravens. In that story, 7 brothers were turned into a raven by their father. they were eventually rescued by their younger sister. I won't vote for PMC until there is proof that the ravens are indeed scum and not just unfortunate humans turned into a bird.

[cmckinney]

Just throwing in my two cents here. All of you guys seem bent on thinking PMC is scum based on the following evidence

1. He barked
2. When investigated, a BLACK feather was found
3. He's chirping
4. He pushed for the lynch of William.

When i look back on it, he wasn't pushing harder then anybody else. There was only a few hours left before a deadline, and lots of people had already voted for William.

Vote PmcHugh
The fact that you're linked with a black feather does not bode well with me at all.

I find this strange...he votes for PMC, based on the fact that when MM "investigated" him, he received a message saying "black feather" To me this means absolutely nothing. The entire thing about this is that its a "black" feather. Oh No, he's been linked to the color black. And then there's Flores and Co. who won't get off PMC's back about the whole wolf thing.

First off...we're not even sure it's a wolf. Don't dogs woof? And then when he started tweeting, you guys say "everytime he kills somebody, he changes his noise!!!" and when he forgets to put in his PR, you guys jump him for having a false PR. First off, when I had my burping PR, I, like many other people with PR's sometimes forgot to put it in. But yet...you guys didn't jump us. And quite frankly...what could PMC have to gain from a supposed PR?

[pmchugh]

I'm pretty sure that the feather came from the 7 ravens. In that story, 7 brothers were turned into a raven by their father. they were eventually rescued by their younger sister. I won't vote for PMC until there is proof that the ravens are indeed scum and not just unfortunate humans turned into a bird.

tweet tweet I think this proves how stupid this bandwagon is.

According to you lot my role is a Wolf that is also a Raven who is also a lyncher and is also making up that he has a post restriction because he hasnt been punished for forgetting his PR.

I think instead of wasting my time defending myself against your accussations I will go re-read and post my suspicions of other players although i will have to do this tommorow.

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obviously all of us are too dumb to either get off the subject or find a decent role to link PM to.
It would be so much easier if PM would give us a hint to his name perhaps, but it might help scum more than us....depending on whatever it is.

[pmchugh]

obviously all of us are too dumb to either get off the subject or find a decent role to link PM to.
It would be so much easier if PM would give us a hint to his name perhaps, but it might help scum more than us....depending on whatever it is.

tweet tweet . Im not going to claim yet but all I will say as atm I have a locked role, that will become unlocked after day 3 when my PR ends and that I dont know what this will be (yet).

[MountainLion]

I'm tired of all the talk about PRs and who's this and who's that in this tale or that one. We should always focus on scummy behavior and never about the PR....never. I re-read the entire thread, every word and I don't see a single scummy behavior that stood out, so I think the following is our best bet right now:

*zzzz* I remember kalish saying something about being on to something before he got knocked out as well, so I would like to hear what that was... Also about the gifts, only 2 of them that are left can help us, the rest are a little useless although 2 people have something that may be useful in the future... Of the 2 that can help us, they need to speak now, otherwise I will out them...

If anyone hasn't posted on this day, they must post several, at least 9 posts today. DRoZ, have the 4 that can help us posted yet today?

[Fircoal]

I'm behind, I need to read about 7 pages...

[Minister Masket]

uhhhh, how exactly is being linked to giving away a town investigation a bad thing?

wait, read the whole thing wrong, thought the feather was the investigation item. sorry.

It is the investigation item you twit!

His role connected is a black feather, and I do remember there being a few Grimm stories about Ravens.
Naturally, this explains the tweeting.

[Skoffin]

I'd sure love to know what you lot are talking about I still cannot see the damn scenes. TALLLAPUS, or anyone else for that matter, could someone please either write the scene in plain text for me or give me a brief summary of what happened in it?

Just throwing in my two cents here. All of you guys seem bent on thinking PMC is scum based on the following evidence

1. He barked
2. When investigated, a BLACK feather was found
3. He's chirping
4. He pushed for the lynch of William.

When i look back on it, he wasn't pushing harder then anybody else. There was only a few hours left before a deadline, and lots of people had already voted for William.

Vote PmcHugh
The fact that you're linked with a black feather does not bode well with me at all.

I find this strange...he votes for PMC, based on the fact that when MM "investigated" him, he received a message saying "black feather" To me this means absolutely nothing. The entire thing about this is that its a "black" feather. Oh No, he's been linked to the color black. And then there's Flores and Co. who won't get off PMC's back about the whole wolf thing.

First off...we're not even sure it's a wolf. Don't dogs woof? And then when he started tweeting, you guys say "everytime he kills somebody, he changes his noise!!!" and when he forgets to put in his PR, you guys jump him for having a false PR. First off, when I had my burping PR, I, like many other people with PR's sometimes forgot to put it in. But yet...you guys didn't jump us. And quite frankly...what could PMC have to gain from a supposed PR?

This guy said it better then I could, thus I quotes eeet.

[pmchugh]

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There isnt too many major scum tells about but this is the best I can see for now.

Last time I was pissed off at the use of a random vote in Batman, Talapus's last game. There was a wagon of about 7 people on it before it got called off. A good number were scum as I remember, I'll get the facts later busy right now but I'm gonna call out and FOS everyone on the wishing well vote one again.

I think that in the opening few pages those that are suspicious of people voting for the wishing well are more suspicious themselves because when people are scum they are always much more careful not to do something that will make them look at all scummy, where as if they were town they wouldnt really mind until there got too many votes on it.

Same thing here:

even thought i do understand why the wishing well should be used as a last resort, since day one is always mostly random, i think make it extra spicy with the wishing well is fun, and as guu from jungle wa itsumo hale nochi guu says "as long as guu is having fun, everything is fine", plus having a first lynch fast will give us info for a second more informed lynch. Same thing here:

Vote (wishing well)

How the hell does a fast first lynch give us info for a second more informed lynch?! How many games have you played in Flores? It's ten times better for the town if we lynch someone ourselves. We'll find scum every time! The discussion and vote counts are our best info.

You know why Talapus includes the wishing well option? So we have something to talk about right away...and possibly lynch the scum who vote for it.

FOS Flores, /, and Anark

In fact, Unvote, Vote AD because you should know better and you just voted / for the same thing you did.

Form jnd:

........ but Im guessing non-believers are going to be on all bandwagons today.

This is a good point.

/(11) - kalishnikov, Anarkistsdream, Mountainlion, cmckinney, LSU Tiger Josh, jnd94, FloresDelMal, Ditocoaf, selin, mr incrediball, cena-rules,

before he claimed:
william18(7) - Mountainlion, dustn64, jnd94, /, pmchugh, Anarkistsdream, cmckinney

after he claimed
william18(14) - dustn64, jnd94, pmchugh, Anarkistsdream, ditocoaf, walelia2, mandalorian2298, got tonkaed, Ga7, cena-rules, Selin, DRoZ, nagerous, iliad

pmchugh(3) - FloresDelMal, Selin, jnd94, nag

Who is on all of these wagons? jnd. unvote vote jnd94, you have just shown yourself to be scummy.


Too many people are making too much out of PR's voting and being willing to lynch because of it, mods can screw with your head and votes should be made on how scummy someone looks not on their PR.

People that try to make the most out of PR's:
Ditocoaf
Mandy
flores
AD- slightly
selin
jnd94- contridicts himself multiple times he bases things of PR's but he says:

Obviously this game has tons of PR's, and like ML keeps saying, with them switching all over, it would be most unwise to lynch off that.

Backs up my earlier vote.

But for now I'm going to vote Mandy, as he's not.. acting like Mandy.
vote mandy

There is something strange about his play and im sure you know him well, not playing like you do normally is a sign of scummy-ness.

Finally FOS Selin, you are normally a very helpful player but today you have said nothing of significance and you only posts that actually give reasons as to why you are voting use faulty logic, as ML and others have been pointing out just because I barked soesnt make me a wolf, basing things off of a PR is poor play, something that isnt to be expected off of you.

Vote: /

I'm back at home and will read the thread as next.

After this all he could muster was:

Unvote

And then later:

Vote: william to have a lynch at least

or, perhaps... pmc has to get certain people killed in a cetain order.

pmc was barking yesterday. many people commented on that being very wolf-like. the Ill grandmother (I.E LRRH's grandmother) is dead, and now pmc has changed his role. coincidence?


hm... if no roles that are linked to birds get lynched, and pmc is still tweeting tomorrow, we may have a multiple lyncher...

I think pmchugh is the wolf. After one of his target (grandmother) had been dead, the first of his locked roles was released.

Vote: pmchugh
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Thats all I got for now, I might look back at the rest of jnds posts a little more carefully as I was re-reading in general there and he definately came most scummy.

[DRoZ]

I'm tired of all the talk about PRs and who's this and who's that in this tale or that one. We should always focus on scummy behavior and never about the PR....never. I re-read the entire thread, every word and I don't see a single scummy behavior that stood out, so I think the following is our best bet right now:

*zzzz* I remember kalish saying something about being on to something before he got knocked out as well, so I would like to hear what that was... Also about the gifts, only 2 of them that are left can help us, the rest are a little useless although 2 people have something that may be useful in the future... Of the 2 that can help us, they need to speak now, otherwise I will out them...

If anyone hasn't posted on this day, they must post several, at least 9 posts today. DRoZ, have the 4 that can help us posted yet today?

*zzzz* One has posted, LSU, with a somewhat reasonable excuse, although if he knew that the person he picked was a power role and knew that the mafia would target them, than he should have said he was vanilla or something, although he said he would speak up if there was going to be a lynch on them, which would be the best call, that is if he isnt lying... The other has not posted, so I will wait until then before naming... Oh and it is only two that can help us, if anyone is reading over this, ML is just doing his bad numbers pr thing again.

Also nice write up pmc, although it does look a bit like you are grabbing at straws to get the heat off you, but the effort is well appreciated.

[FloresDelMal]

good effort into get the attention out of you pmc, but i find this excessive deffensive style of yours indeed, very scummy; if you claim and your claim seems convincing i will be the first person in unvote you, til then my vote stays with you, and next will go to Jnd because you DO have a point with him.

[FloresDelMal]

Reading this, it says that the letters were hard to read. could that mean that the names might be messed up slightly or something? or he read the wrong name(s)?

this makes much sense to me, the messages could have been easily misread, i mean they ARE wrote on bread crumbles in the middle of a forest full of hungry animals, is not wrote in stone, and yes, this stink to hansel and grettel.

[Selin]

tweet tweet, A black feather? I know nothing about this at all. Please dont go about bandwagonning/lynching me because black isnt a pretty colour.Im sure this means something to someone but not to me.

Personally I am a little suspicious of MM this sounds made up to me, did anyone else get a gift?

How can't you know anything about the black feather?

Others with PRs already stated that their PRs are somehow related to their roles. You are the only one with a PR, who denies from the beginning on that this PRs don't have anything to do with your character. You posted this already three times and this is the fourth time that you deny a relation between your role and your PRs.

You have been tweeting from the beginning of day 2 and when investigated we get a result "A Black Feather" as a clue. There is a clear connection between a feather and a tweeting character, however "you know nothing about this at all". That is quite suspicious in my opinion. From your quotes below I got the impression that you are somewhat afraid of that someone makes a connection between your character with your PR and grimms fairy tales. If you had had a believer character you shouldn't have been worried that much about that. So my conclusion was that you are a non-believer character in fact and that's why you try to distract our attention from making a connection between your PR and your character.

bark bark woof woof, im not a dog so dont look for them in any fairy tales.
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bark bark the guy that shouts? A pr is actually nothing to go on if thats why you are voting.
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Heres the thing PR's help you very little in a game the only thing they do is help validate claims. e.g. sleeping beauty. Apart from that they have no use in telling you anything.

And for the record i am neither a dog nor a wolf.

[Selin]

tweet tweet
Form jnd:

........ but Im guessing non-believers are going to be on all bandwagons today.

This is a good point.

/(11) - kalishnikov, Anarkistsdream, Mountainlion, cmckinney, LSU Tiger Josh, jnd94, FloresDelMal, Ditocoaf, selin, mr incrediball, cena-rules,

before he claimed:
william18(7) - Mountainlion, dustn64, jnd94, /, pmchugh, Anarkistsdream, cmckinney

after he claimed
william18(14) - dustn64, jnd94, pmchugh, Anarkistsdream, ditocoaf, walelia2, mandalorian2298, got tonkaed, Ga7, cena-rules, Selin, DRoZ, nagerous, iliad

pmchugh(3) - FloresDelMal, Selin, jnd94, nag

Who is on all of these wagons? jnd. unvote vote jnd94, you have just shown yourself to be scummy.

Good analysis and I agree on your conclusion.

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[Anarkistsdream]

good effort into get the attention out of you pmc, but i find this excessive deffensive style of yours indeed, very scummy; if you claim and your claim seems convincing i will be the first person in unvote you, til then my vote stays with you, and next will go to Jnd because you DO have a point with him.

How many people are asking McHugh to claim?

P, I don't think you should just yet... Unless, of curse, you are an Unbeliever...

[pmchugh]

tweet tweet, A black feather? I know nothing about this at all. Please dont go about bandwagonning/lynching me because black isnt a pretty colour.Im sure this means something to someone but not to me.

Personally I am a little suspicious of MM this sounds made up to me, did anyone else get a gift?

How can't you know anything about the black feather?

Others with PRs already stated that their PRs are somehow related to their roles. You are the only one with a PR, who denies from the beginning on that this PRs don't have anything to do with your character. You posted this already three times and this is the fourth time that you deny a relation between your role and your PRs.

You have been tweeting from the beginning of day 2 and when investigated we get a result "A Black Feather" as a clue. There is a clear connection between a feather and a tweeting character, however "you know nothing about this at all". That is quite suspicious in my opinion. From your quotes below I got the impression that you are somewhat afraid of that someone makes a connection between your character with your PR and grimms fairy tales. If you had had a believer character you shouldn't have been worried that much about that. So my conclusion was that you are a non-believer character in fact and that's why you try to distract our attention from making a connection between your PR and your character.

bark bark woof woof, im not a dog so dont look for them in any fairy tales.
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bark bark the guy that shouts? A pr is actually nothing to go on if thats why you are voting.
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Heres the thing PR's help you very little in a game the only thing they do is help validate claims. e.g. sleeping beauty. Apart from that they have no use in telling you anything.

And for the record i am neither a dog nor a wolf.

I have never denied that PR isnt related to my role. I said i was not a dog, which is clear because now im tweeting and your getting black feathers. I said PR's wont help you but I meant PR's wont help you to establish who is scum and who isnt in the vast majority of cases not that its not related to my role.

As for the black feather I honestly have no clue as to what it is. tweet tweet.

[Minister Masket]

Ok, so on Day 1, you woof and deny being a dog.
Today, you tweet, and deny being a bird.

Am I the only one seeing a pattern here?

VOTE PMC
I want to see if I'm right.

/(11) - kalishnikov, Anarkistsdream, Mountainlion, cmckinney, LSU Tiger Josh, jnd94, FloresDelMal, Ditocoaf, selin, mr incrediball, cena-rules,

before he claimed:
william18(7) - Mountainlion, dustn64, jnd94, /, pmchugh, Anarkistsdream, cmckinney

after he claimed
william18(14) - dustn64, jnd94, pmchugh, Anarkistsdream, ditocoaf, walelia2, mandalorian2298, got tonkaed, Ga7, cena-rules, Selin, DRoZ, nagerous, iliad

pmchugh(3) - FloresDelMal, Selin, jnd94, nag

Who is on all of these wagons? jnd. unvote vote jnd94, you have just shown yourself to be scummy

Hey hey! Look who isn't on any of these!

[cmckinney]

Just throwing in my two cents here. All of you guys seem bent on thinking PMC is scum based on the following evidence

1. He barked
2. When investigated, a BLACK feather was found
3. He's chirping
4. He pushed for the lynch of William.

When i look back on it, he wasn't pushing harder then anybody else. There was only a few hours left before a deadline, and lots of people had already voted for William.

Vote PmcHugh
The fact that you're linked with a black feather does not bode well with me at all.

I find this strange...he votes for PMC, based on the fact that when MM "investigated" him, he received a message saying "black feather" To me this means absolutely nothing. The entire thing about this is that its a "black" feather. Oh No, he's been linked to the color black. And then there's Flores and Co. who won't get off PMC's back about the whole wolf thing.

First off...we're not even sure it's a wolf. Don't dogs woof? And then when he started tweeting, you guys say "everytime he kills somebody, he changes his noise!!!" and when he forgets to put in his PR, you guys jump him for having a false PR. First off, when I had my burping PR, I, like many other people with PR's sometimes forgot to put it in. But yet...you guys didn't jump us. And quite frankly...what could PMC have to gain from a supposed PR?

[Selin]

Ok, so on Day 1, you woof and deny being a dog.
Today, you tweet, and deny being a bird.

Am I the only one seeing a pattern here?

VOTE PMC
I want to see if I'm right.

/(11) - kalishnikov, Anarkistsdream, Mountainlion, cmckinney, LSU Tiger Josh, jnd94, FloresDelMal, Ditocoaf, selin, mr incrediball, cena-rules,

before he claimed:
william18(7) - Mountainlion, dustn64, jnd94, /, pmchugh, Anarkistsdream, cmckinney

after he claimed
william18(14) - dustn64, jnd94, pmchugh, Anarkistsdream, ditocoaf, walelia2, mandalorian2298, got tonkaed, Ga7, cena-rules, Selin, DRoZ, nagerous, iliad

pmchugh(3) - FloresDelMal, Selin, jnd94, nag

Who is on all of these wagons? jnd. unvote vote jnd94, you have just shown yourself to be scummy

Hey hey! Look who isn't on any of these!

I don't think that I understood your point above.

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[cmckinney]

I think he's talking about himself...

That seems kind of off to me. The point of the post above was to say how JND was bandwagoning. MM wasn't even mentioned, but he still feels the need to remind everyone that he hasn't bandwagoned.

[Selin]

I think he's talking about himself...

That seems kind of off to me. The point of the post above was to say how JND was bandwagoning. MM wasn't even mentioned, but he still feels the need to remind everyone that he hasn't bandwagoned.

ok, I got it.

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