Question for students

by **wrestler1ump** on Tue May 13, 2008 5:06 pm

Seeing as nobody here is going to get busted, I would be interested in knowing what percentage of students cheat on tests, quizzes and exams, and if they do, how often do you do it? The comments in brackets are suggestions to help define "never", "almost never", "rarely", "sometimes", "often", and "almost always".

by **gimil** on Tue May 13, 2008 5:07 pm

The last time I cheated is was a french test in high school 4 years ago.

I failed.

by **wcaclimbing** on Tue May 13, 2008 5:09 pm

proud to say i've never cheated

and I still have good grades.

by **Ditocoaf** on Tue May 13, 2008 5:12 pm

I never cheat on tests, but the last time I actually did my math homework regularly was in my first month of freshman year. Usually a few friends have a system where one person does the busywork, and then everyone else just copies.

I guess when I was taking Spanish classes, I cheated fairly often. Most classes I never need to cheat to succeed (not that I actually pay attention or anything).

by **wrestler1ump** on Tue May 13, 2008 5:12 pm

I fit into the second category. I cheated for one mark in my first year of high school and cheated for a couple in my second year, but after that I decided a good mark is pretty meaningless if I haven't earned it.

by **gimil** on Tue May 13, 2008 5:15 pm

The moral of the story is its alright to cheat on a test if its a forgin language. English speaking people can handle two languages in one head.

p.s. its not actually alright to cheat. EVER!

by **Frigidus** on Tue May 13, 2008 5:20 pm

I don't cheat but admire people who do. It takes balls and smarts to do it right.

by **InkL0sed** on Tue May 13, 2008 6:01 pm

Well, I used to be a serious cheater (like the kind that require balls and smarts) -- but nowadays, I just go with the small time looking at the other person's paper out of the corner of my eye, at all. I chose almost always, and I'm not ashamed of it. Of course, if I respect the class or teacher, I won't cheat.

by **btownmeggy** on Tue May 13, 2008 6:55 pm

I ONCE let someone else cheat OFF me, and I ended up getting suspended (not for cheating, but for my behavior during the post-cheating fallout.)

by **nagerous** on Tue May 13, 2008 7:01 pm

It depends how easy said cheating is..

At school I used to cheat all the time if I could get away with it, when it came to actual real exams like gcses and A levels said cheating was much harder. Now at uni, it's hard to actually cheat in the real thing, theres limited opportunity. Theres also the problem that there is a hell of a lot to lose if caught, which pushes me away from entering that field.

by **Spike!** on Tue May 13, 2008 7:22 pm

I cheated a few times in elementary school on spelling pre-tests. I could never spell without studying and rarely got the 90% on the pretest to pass. So on Friday I sat alone taking the test while the rest of the class went to the computer lab. I was so pissed that I never got time in the lab that I tried cheating. It ended up being too much work so I got my hands on a book and studied the words the weekend before.

Yes I am a loser....

by **nagerous** on Tue May 13, 2008 7:25 pm

I only cheated really when I couldn't be bothered to revise. I was extremely intelligent, just extremely lazy. Nowadays I'm still extremely lazy, I should be doing an essay but I've left it to the last minute hence pulling the all-nighter, I'm not as clever as I used to be, I've allowed alcohol to corrode my braincells.

by **Spike!** on Tue May 13, 2008 7:32 pm

nagerous wrote:I only cheated really when I couldn't be bothered to revise. I was extremely intelligent, just extremely lazy. Nowadays I'm still extremely lazy, I should be doing an essay but I've left it to the last minute hence pulling the all-nighter, I'm not as clever as I used to be, I've allowed alcohol to corrode my braincells.

Don't sell yourself too short....alcohol got me through a few ochem tests. It 'opens the mind'

by **InkL0sed** on Tue May 13, 2008 7:55 pm

Spike! wrote:
nagerous wrote:I only cheated really when I couldn't be bothered to revise. I was extremely intelligent, just extremely lazy. Nowadays I'm still extremely lazy, I should be doing an essay but I've left it to the last minute hence pulling the all-nighter, I'm not as clever as I used to be, I've allowed alcohol to corrode my braincells.

Don't sell yourself too short....alcohol got me through a few ochem tests. It 'opens the mind'

No, you're confusing alcohol and brains with spices and capillaries.

by **suggs** on Tue May 13, 2008 7:58 pm

I've never not cheated.

by **Spike!** on Tue May 13, 2008 8:00 pm

InkL0sed wrote:
Spike! wrote:
nagerous wrote:I only cheated really when I couldn't be bothered to revise. I was extremely intelligent, just extremely lazy. Nowadays I'm still extremely lazy, I should be doing an essay but I've left it to the last minute hence pulling the all-nighter, I'm not as clever as I used to be, I've allowed alcohol to corrode my braincells.

Don't sell yourself too short....alcohol got me through a few ochem tests. It 'opens the mind'

No, you're confusing alcohol and brains with spices and capillaries.

??? Capillaries and spices?

I don't know about you, but Ochem made much more sense when I had a drink or two in me. You seen those electron diagrams? arrows and dots flying around....makes me shudder just thinking about it

by **jonesthecurl** on Tue May 13, 2008 11:03 pm

suggs wrote:I've never not cheated.

...so how did you vote?

by **borox0** on Tue May 13, 2008 11:14 pm

I've peeked at an answer or two in small tests but other than that never.

by **static_ice** on Tue May 13, 2008 11:55 pm

In elementary and middle school I was a sucker for being peeked at for answers. The only thing I remember doing was in 8th grade on a math test, it was lunch time or something and the teacher told us in advance she'd let us go eat and come back to finish. So I wrote down some of the hard problems onto that little info-card on the inside of my calculator. I solved them during lunch and I think I wrote down the answers back on that card.

by **Curmudgeonx** on Wed May 14, 2008 8:35 am

I don't remember cheating off of anyone else, ever.

However, the preparation of "crib" notes that could be secreted on myself for review during the test, or in the bathroom during the test, actually worked better as a studying tool, so much so that I very rarely had to pull them out for use. So I intended to cheat, but almost always did not have to.

by **static_ice** on Wed May 14, 2008 12:33 pm

Curmudgeonx wrote:I don't remember cheating off of anyone else, ever.

However, the preparation of "crib" notes that could be secreted on myself for review during the test, or in the bathroom during the test, actually worked better as a studying tool, so much so that I very rarely had to pull them out for use. So I intended to cheat, but almost always did not have to.

My Bio 1 teacher told us at the beginning of the class that he would let us listen to our music during tests, and if we recorded answers onto our mp3's then he thought we'd probably learn it anyway from taking the trouble.

by **Evil Pope** on Wed May 14, 2008 5:38 pm

Would you consider letting others copy off of you during a test cheating? Because if so, I cheat regularly.
Otherwise, I don't cheat on tests.. I couldn't do it, I have no faith in the capacity of the people around me to correctly answer them...although I don't have much more faith in myself.

Homework, however, is another story. In that case I copied this girl's math homework every day for two years straight. Which seemed like a good idea at the time, but it left me completely incapable of doing anything this year. So while learning new things I had to also learn all of the basics I should have picked up prior. That was the worst idea i'd ever had.

But then again, now I do all of my own...and its completely worth it.. but everyone else copies it. I think there were three or four people copying my homework assignments in AP US History this year...plus whoever they were giving it to...I need to learn how to say no.

by **Snorri1234** on Fri May 16, 2008 3:23 pm

I became too lazy to cheat after my second year in highschool.

by **Minister Masket** on Fri May 16, 2008 3:47 pm

How ironic.
T'was only today when I had a "surprise" Geology test.
However, I began to think my teacher wasn't too smart when he got bored and started to also fill in the test, right in front of me. It's a good job I can read upside-down.
I still only got 35/60, but that's because I'm just like nagerous.
Bright, but lazy.

by **khazalid** on Fri May 16, 2008 7:01 pm

if its for a bs class i take notes into exams sometimes. depends on the format really. i find it odd that people qualify their intelligence so readily in terms of strict grading like that. i dont really see it as a moral issue, its more of a personal meritocracy. if its for a class that youre taking for a good reason and not just to make up the numbers then of course you shouldn't really need to cheat to pass it. i'm frequently amazed at the amount of lit. students i encounter who don't appear to have a love of the classics and wriggle out of reading and discussion in seminars. again it goes back to being able to parrot off what you're told and not having to put any thought into study. the whole middle class of the uk goes to uni and it shows. a degree is something people just do these days, its becoming practically worthless because of it. rant over. that was actually pretty far off topic..