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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1<

Postby Macalester on Wed May 07, 2008 12:00 pm

Right, now I have been playing this game with respect to Ditocoaf and so have been playing very in character. But, I can see that it doesn't really work for a mafia game. Now, Skoffin brought me over to this site to play mafia and so I know her the best out of all of you. In fact she's the only person I know her. That's the reason why I was making those jokes about Skoffin, that's what they were joking.


pmchugh wrote:Mac- Dont be fooled by the low post count, this guy is smart he screwed us over in immunoligy because we all thoght him to be a noob. I am suspicious of him, if Flores turns out to be town then i would highly suspect him, the only thing that makes me not suspect him is his arguing with Flores. Here is why I suspect him:


I haven't been arguing with Flores, merely stating wild assumptions. In all honesty I haven't made a single helpful post until now. All my in character shit has been in character and so I've been playing my guy who I believe to be slightly paranoid (as he is an ex-president) and quite political (naturally). Anyway...

Macalester wrote:Macalester looks over to militant. "I would give you some asprin, however this new government has banned the use of painkillers. Apparently we have to fight through the pain to improve our character or something like that. When I was president, nothing ridiculous would have happened, back when we were all prosperous nice citizens." Macalester sighs and continues. "Now, to discuss foreign relations...Skoffin, where abouts are you from? That accent seems...familiar."


This looks like him just getting in character, but it just seems scummy to me he is trying to focus too much on his character and not enough on thew game if you get what I mean.


I agree with that part, however I thought that was the creator's wishes.

Also I notice he has now accused skoffin twice, isnt it skoffin that brought you here? i reckon you are accusing him because you know him and he is a possible scum buddy. You want to put yourself on the opposite side from him this is something scum like to do with each other.


HER. But anyway...That is a huge assumption, me joking around with Skoffin = me being scum with Skoffin. Seriously, I have posted little yet I am already believed to be in league with the person that brought me here.

Macalester wrote:Hmmm...Maybe that was like a ransom. For example, you may not have a headache, you may be going cold turkey and FloresDelMal could be supply you with drugs. seems quite scummy...wouldn't happen under my reign...


more charcter may be a PR. But the scummy thing here is he is hinting that Flores is suspicious without doing anything about it, he is waiting to see if a bandwagon develops and encouraging it without actually being on it himself.


Yes I was role playing there to. Flores I see you as a pro town figure, especially fixing up that dudes headache.

I hope I have explained myself on the most part.

sam_levi_11 wrote: Malacaster meanwhile has decided to accuse skoffin, which is odd, as skoffin hasnt really done anything worthy of being accused of, either he has info on him, is trying to start a pointless bandwagon or he may be trying, as mentioned earlier, to seperate himself from scum and convince us he is a townie.

vote Malacaster


Firstly, how would I know whether Skoffin's mafia if I were town. Think about it...

Secondly, I have answered this many times above.

animorpherv1 wrote:I don't have much of a reason, but if you really want one, fine:

I want the day to end with a lynch (which means there is a chance of us finding scum).


So you just enjoy bandwagoning?


I really don't want to claim, not because I'm scum, but because I don't want to give mafia any information. If I were to claim, the mafia will either have a good target to go after, or a bad target in which case they'll write me off as not worth lynching. In either case it's bad for me to claim. Unless people still don't believe me I will claim although I really do think it's a bad idea.


I want to have a look at all the people that just hopped onto my bandwagon and see why they did it.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby sam_levi_11 on Wed May 07, 2008 12:04 pm

so your an ex-president eh? hmmmm
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1<

Postby militant on Wed May 07, 2008 12:35 pm

Macalester wrote:Yes I was role playing there to. Flores I see you as a pro town figure, especially fixing up that dudes headache.


That Dude :evil:

Anyway, I dont think Mac should be lynched, He claimed to be an ex-president, so he may have an important pro town role, Perhaps Mayor or politician, whihc isn't as important as mayor, but it is still pro town. But he may be mafia aswell.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1<

Postby militant on Wed May 07, 2008 12:36 pm

militant wrote:
Macalester wrote:Yes I was role playing there to. Flores I see you as a pro town figure, especially fixing up that dudes headache.


That Dude :evil:

Anyway, I dont think Mac should be lynched, He claimed to be an ex-president, so he may have an important pro town role, Perhaps Mayor or politician, whihc isn't as important as mayor, but it is still pro town. But he may be mafia aswell.


But saying that, didnt Dito say there wouldn't be any conventional roles #-o That kills the possiblity of him being either of the 2 roles mentioned above #-o
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby InkL0sed on Wed May 07, 2008 1:18 pm

He didn't claim anything -- we already knew he was an ex-President
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby pmchugh on Wed May 07, 2008 2:44 pm

I gennerally believe that it was a good defense and voting you now would seem silly but with the deadline it looks as if we will have a no lynch. I cant see anyone worth lynching but mac I disagree with you on one point.

macalaster wrote:Flores I see you as a pro town figure, especially fixing up that dudes headache


Fixing someones headache does not necessarily make you town.

Ans skoffin sorry about the whole he/him thing.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby sam_levi_11 on Wed May 07, 2008 2:59 pm

pmchugh wrote:
macalaster wrote:Flores I see you as a pro town figure, especially fixing up that dudes headache


Fixing someones headache does not necessarily make you town.


i know why a noob might think that, because he's doing something positive.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby DRoZ on Wed May 07, 2008 3:13 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
macalaster wrote:Flores I see you as a pro town figure, especially fixing up that dudes headache


Fixing someones headache does not necessarily make you town.


i know why a noob might think that, because he's doing something positive.


The way I see it, the flores and militant connection are likely both on the same side, as helping one another wouldnt make much sense if they were on opposite sides of the law... Although militant may be scum, and flores is unknowingly helping scum, I just see it as highly unlikely that a scum would help any townie, considering that would not be in their best interests.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1<

Postby DRoZ on Wed May 07, 2008 3:20 pm

militant wrote:
militant wrote:
Macalester wrote:Yes I was role playing there to. Flores I see you as a pro town figure, especially fixing up that dudes headache.


That Dude :evil:

Anyway, I dont think Mac should be lynched, He claimed to be an ex-president, so he may have an important pro town role, Perhaps Mayor or politician, whihc isn't as important as mayor, but it is still pro town. But he may be mafia aswell.


But saying that, didnt Dito say there wouldn't be any conventional roles #-o That kills the possiblity of him being either of the 2 roles mentioned above #-o


He said...

2) I like dynamic roles. Many roles will change under certain circumstances, though not all. Also, don't expect things to follow typical mafia rules, and lingo. Someone who's character is a doctor, might have a role that doesn't involve protecting. Knowledge of normal mafia roles will not help you in this game. Focusing on normal mafia roles will actually slow you down.


So dont expect things to be as they seem, but that doesnt mean there wont be any conventional roles, it just means that their role may not be what it seems it would be.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby sam_levi_11 on Wed May 07, 2008 3:23 pm

well then id think they are most likely town
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby pmchugh on Wed May 07, 2008 3:45 pm

huh? Giving someone a headache cure isnt like saving someones life, this piece of information means very little. Flores character could be acting nice on the surface but killing in the night you just dont know try to focus on people not their characters for now. At the start of the game its very hard to read the mod until you have found out more info about what he has done with other characters.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby animorpherv1 on Wed May 07, 2008 3:51 pm

I don't think he's gonna claim- he saw that we wanted him to claim, and he missed it. Why? He's scum, and ex-politician that hates how things are done now, he mentioned something like that in one of his posts. In other words, Mac- I don't belive much of what you said. Oh yeah, My reason was a reason, and a bad one at that, but they wanted me to say something, and I want the day to end in a lynch, so we can possibly find some scum.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby Macalester on Wed May 07, 2008 4:00 pm

Wow, you love misinterpreting/ignoring things I say.

I don't want to claim because it's beneficial for the scum not for the town.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby DRoZ on Wed May 07, 2008 4:01 pm

pmchugh wrote:huh? Giving someone a headache cure isnt like saving someones life, this piece of information means very little. Flores character could be acting nice on the surface but killing in the night you just dont know try to focus on people not their characters for now. At the start of the game its very hard to read the mod until you have found out more info about what he has done with other characters.


I know its not a life and death type of situation, however if your were a scum, and you saw someone with a migraine that could only say three words at a time, then why would you help, when it gives you a clear advantage in respects to that person not to help. The only part of it that seems in the least scummy is the fact that he had to "pay" for it. Also considering that flores earlier was willing to give a cup away seems more townie of her than anything else, for the same reason I said before. The part that strikes me strange is that he knew she was key to his migraine, then suddenly realized that in order to pay for it he needed to vote the same as her... seems unlikely that he would just suddenly realize this (unless this was explained and I missed it) But again why would a scum have such a strange PR... It seems to help him submarine / or have useless tiny posts, which would seem to help scum, so why would he try to get rid of it unless he was trying to help the town. I know a lot of this may seem to be reaching, but its not like there has been a whole lot of scummy behavior happening, so I am trying to deduce what I can from what little is out there...
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby animorpherv1 on Wed May 07, 2008 4:02 pm

I'm like that, I misinterpret lots of things. But I still think what I thought before.

Anyways Mac- were all waiting on you to claim. And I'd bet that if we don't get one, well lynch you anyways.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby DRoZ on Wed May 07, 2008 4:05 pm

animorpherv1 wrote:I'm like that, I misinterpret lots of things. But I still think what I thought before.

Anyways Mac- were all waiting on you to claim. And I'd bet that if we don't get one, well lynch you anyways.



You do realize that the more you push this, the more it is going to look incriminating if you are wrong... I guess I am just asking if you are willing to bet your life on whether or not he is scum...
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby animorpherv1 on Wed May 07, 2008 4:17 pm

I'm pretty sure- heck, in another game I claimed and I'm not out yet. But risking my life is a bit too far. I'm not 100% sure, only about 95%, and it's only Day 1, were not gonna know much about the other chrachters.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby Ditocoaf on Wed May 07, 2008 5:55 pm

Since multiple players have mentioned it by now, I thought I'd address and clarify the role play aspect of this game. While talking in-character is fun, and certainly could add something to this game, I am not necessarily asking for that. My main point was pertaining to the rules of this game. The way things work, especially at night, will not always work as they would with normal mafia; they will work as if people are actually walking to each other's houses at night. That bears repeating: actions, any actions, will not work due to a traditional set of rules, but rather they will work as if they are actually happening within the make-believe world. If you want to extend this to acting within your posts, that's great, but it is not a requirement in any way.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby pmchugh on Wed May 07, 2008 5:56 pm

animorpherv1 wrote:I'm pretty sure- heck, in another game I claimed and I'm not out yet. But risking my life is a bit too far. I'm not 100% sure, only about 95%, and it's only Day 1, were not gonna know much about the other chrachters.


Thats a ridiculous amount to be sure, how can you be 95% sure at this stage, while I agree mac has looked scummy at points there is no way you you can be that sure on what little evidence we have had unless you have a day investigation.

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pmchugh wrote:huh? Giving someone a headache cure isnt like saving someones life, this piece of information means very little. Flores character could be acting nice on the surface but killing in the night you just dont know try to focus on people not their characters for now. At the start of the game its very hard to read the mod until you have found out more info about what he has done with other characters.


I know its not a life and death type of situation, however if your were a scum, and you saw someone with a migraine that could only say three words at a time, then why would you help, when it gives you a clear advantage in respects to that person not to help. The only part of it that seems in the least scummy is the fact that he had to "pay" for it. Also considering that flores earlier was willing to give a cup away seems more townie of her than anything else, for the same reason I said before. The part that strikes me strange is that he knew she was key to his migraine, then suddenly realized that in order to pay for it he needed to vote the same as her... seems unlikely that he would just suddenly realize this (unless this was explained and I missed it) But again why would a scum have such a strange PR... It seems to help him submarine / or have useless tiny posts, which would seem to help scum, so why would he try to get rid of it unless he was trying to help the town. I know a lot of this may seem to be reaching, but its not like there has been a whole lot of scummy behavior happening, so I am trying to deduce what I can from what little is out there..


As far as Im aware flores had no idea that when she voted it would allow Militant to be rid of his headache, yes she knew she was 'key' but i dont think she knew exactly what to do, so you cant say that she was deliberately being helpful.

As for militant he did know that he had to vote the same as her its just that Flores didnt vote anyone for quite a while so he couldnt get rid of his PR. No matter if you are town or scum a PR like that is annoying and if I were scum (or town) I would have worked to get rid of it as well.

I dont get the last bit yes a lot of this is reaching but from your post are you not defending them both or not im confused :? .

By the way im not saing either is scum or town just that they could be either and this migraine buisness doesnt mean anything towards whether they are scum/town.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby cmckinney on Wed May 07, 2008 5:57 pm

Wait...so you're 95% sure that Mac is scum. I quite frankly don't see any real solid evidence against him, so unless you know something that I don't, it's a stretch to say that your almost positive that he is scum.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1<

Postby Ditocoaf on Wed May 07, 2008 6:02 pm

>Vote Count<

Skoffin (1) -- Flores
animorpherv1 (1) -- cmc
Macalaster (5) -- ani, 'ball, will, ink, LSU

With 14 alive it takes 8 to approve an execution.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby animorpherv1 on Wed May 07, 2008 6:12 pm

I just absoluetley disagree with his recent posts. But you think what you think.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby cmckinney on Wed May 07, 2008 6:20 pm

I just think that it's a reach to say that you're 95% sure that he's scum on day 1.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby cmckinney on Wed May 07, 2008 6:20 pm

When in my opinion, while he has acted scummy, he hasn't had any real solid scum tells.
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Re: Neighborhood Mafia >Day 1< The sun begins its descent...

Postby animorpherv1 on Wed May 07, 2008 6:30 pm

ok. Looks like I still have lots to learn.
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