get rid of the 3 quote rule [done - upped to 5]

[cena-rules]

REPLACE QUOTE THING

Concise description:

replace the current you may only embed 3 quotes within each other thing with a higher limit (5 or 6)

Specifics:

the mafia community are fed up with the 3 quotes thing so we feel it should either go back to the old system or the limit should be raised

This will improve the following aspects of the site:

you wont face a revolt from the mafia community
we will all be happier

EDIT 5 DAY POLL UP

[wcaclimbing]

put up a poll.

I think the limit should be extended to 5. Its difficult to do many things with only 3 quotes.

[t-o-m]

get rid of it - its useless!

[AndyDufresne]

Look how many quotes you can fit in a post...in a variety of ways! You can still easily structure quote filled posts like:

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

--Andy

[Optimus Prime]

And that.....is why Andy is so freaking cool.

[Ray Rider]

I think it would be great if the limit was increased.

[Joodoo]

I'm not sure but is the quote limit used to prevent "quote spam" (like two people continuously quoting each other in a topic in Chatter Box)?

[BaldAdonis]

I'm not sure but is the quote limit used to prevent "quote spam" (like two people continuously quoting each other in a topic in Chatter Box)?

Yes. Just like limiting smileys to 40 per post. People are allowed what a reasonable poster would need. Unreasonable posters want more so they can post obnoxious noise.

[Dancing Mustard]

While I see Andy's point about fitting in lots of quotes; it is a bit of a fag-about to have to chop and change quote chains into a new and contrived arrangement to make them all appear in your post. Don't get me wrong, quote-chain spam annoys the hell out of me and a limit is required; but three seems miserish.

Five would be a far more sensible limit, it would be of great benefit to those who play mafia (and other forum games), to those who engage in debates in the Clubhouse, for those quoting cheating admissions in C&A, and for those of us who like to indulge in snappy one-liner battles.

In summary: While contrived structures can be used to fit in a lot of quotes, forcing such a practice is annoying and time-consuming for users. A quote-limit is needed to stop chain-spam, but the current limit is overly-restrictive and unecessarily low. A far more sensible and reasonable middle-ground would be 5.

As such, I ask the moderating community to raise the number of chained quotes permitted, if only for a trial period to assess its impact on the readability of forum dialogue.

Let's not be unreasonable now; what harm could there possibly be in permitting a short trial of this suggestion? Let's give it a whirl and see how it works out.

[cena-rules]

Look how many quotes you can fit in a post...in a variety of ways! You can still easily structure quote filled posts like:

ANDYS QUOTE THINGS

--Andy

ok and if this was a mafia game with you collecting evidence against me I can't quote this and reply. VERY ANNOYING

[PLAYER57832]

To add one more voice to what seems to be a developing concensus ....

Up the limit to at least 5 ... perhaps more.

I have learned to work around it some, but it is akward. Also, I am not sure at all what is to be gained from this limit. It does not seem to really reduce post lengths ... may in some cases make them longer or even force people to break up their answers into multiple posts.

[brendan man]

It doesn'y matter lol

[max is gr8]

There is a way around having a quote limit, i.e. no quote limit. Just have the original quote shown and if people want to see another quote embedded they click a button that enlarges the post, hey presto! no quote chains unless you want to see them!

[Kaplowitz]

There is a way around having a quote limit, i.e. no quote limit. Just have the original quote shown and if people want to see another quote embedded they click a button that enlarges the post, hey presto! no quote chains unless you want to see them!

Yes, exactly! I like the quote limit, but i just want to press "Quote" and respond without having to change things around.

[max is gr8]

I do know a site that does that but I can't remember which one, so if anyone else can be bothered to look... Well it's doable anyway

[Dancing Mustard]

I still think that a small raise of the quote-chain maximum will leave most reasonable users satisfied, while also being by far the simplest solution to implement. Let's get that done before we start troubling ourselves with whizzy techno-fixes that probably reqiure patching or modding the forums.

[Ditocoaf]

While I see Andy's point about fitting in lots of quotes; it is a bit of a fag-about to have to chop and change quote chains into a new and contrived arrangement to make them all appear in your post. Don't get me wrong, quote-chain spam annoys the hell out of me and a limit is required; but three seems miserish.

Five would be a far more sensible limit, it would be of great benefit to those who play mafia (and other forum games), to those who engage in debates in the Clubhouse, for those quoting cheating admissions in C&A, and for those of us who like to indulge in snappy one-liner battles.

In summary: While contrived structures can be used to fit in a lot of quotes, forcing such a practice is annoying and time-consuming for users. A quote-limit is needed to stop chain-spam, but the current limit is overly-restrictive and unecessarily low. A far more sensible and reasonable middle-ground would be 5.

As such, I ask the moderating community to raise the number of chained quotes permitted, if only for a trial period to assess its impact on the readability of forum dialogue.

Let's not be unreasonable now; what harm could there possibly be in permitting a short trial of this suggestion? Let's give it a whirl and see how it works out.

And that.....is why DM crushes you all with his superior mind.

[cena-rules]

wow 52 votes for no limit

mods listen to the people

[Minister Masket]

Just put it up to 4 and be done with it.
You people ever heard of compromisation?

[t-o-m]

wow 52 votes for no limit

114

mods listen to the people

[AndyDufresne]

The limit probably will not be abolished, as it cuts down on spam. It may, however, have a chance to be raised slightly.


--Andy

[dustn64]

The limit probably will not be abolished, as it cuts down on spam. It may, however, have a chance to be raised slightly.


--Andy

cool.

[cena-rules]

The limit probably will not be abolished, as it cuts down on spam. It may, however, have a chance to be raised slightly.


--Andy

We will take 5

[firth4eva]

*Prepares to make thread called "Get rid of the 5 quote rule"*

[Dancing Mustard]

The limit probably will not be abolished, as it cuts down on spam. It may, however, have a chance to be raised slightly.

Given an 85% vote in favour of abolishing it, that seems like a remarkably autocratic stance to take. Has there ever been a poll in which relevant users have been so unanimously in favour of a measure before?

Given that a very 'vocal minority' (whom this time we're apparently catering to) seem to think that keeping the quote limit is a very serious matter, is there a way to sort this out a little more subtly?
What I'm getting at is that this whizzy new forum interface might be able to support different quote limits on different forums; allowing us to switch off the limit in social-lounge, raise it slightly in all the other forums, and keep it at three in C&A and GD.

Is such a solution possible, especially in the light of the overwhelming number of users who seem to disagree with the administrator's personal preferences?