LOST Mafia - Day 5 - cena-rules abducted!

by **Selin** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:34 pm

Mandy, I don't question anymore if you are a watcher or not. It's not that important, we will find out that anyway.

After your name claim, my vote is now 100% for you, because you are a member of the third group in this game which is not townie for sure.

We need to find out, if this group is a second mafia, a third party or a cult.

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by **mandalorian2298** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:58 pm

Selin wrote:Mandy, I don't question anymore if you are a watcher or not. It's not that important, we will find out that anyway.

After your name claim, my vote is now 100% for you, because you are a member of the third group in this game which is not townie for sure.

We need to find out, if this group is a second mafia, a third party or a cult.

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Might I point out that Watcher is a completely useless role for Scum?

Anyhow, if I am to die, I would just like to repeat my FOS on Ditto and Ditcoaf.
Also, the fact that Selin is unviling to resolve Cena-Nagerus isue, make me want to FOS Selin. I am not arguing that your contribution to the game so far has been second only to Pmchugh's, but, as I believe I have proved in Deadwood Mafia, even the most usefull players can turn out to be scum.

by **Anarkistsdream** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:31 pm

I am bloody back, all!

However, I am at work. This will have to wait until I get home.

by **Selin** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:46 pm

Background to Danielle Rousseau (Sentinel):

Danielle is a survivor of a shipwreck and was on the island before the air crash. She is not a member of others. Her daughter, Alex was abducted by others soon after her birth. Danielle was an independent character in Seasons 1, had some encounter with the survivors in Season 2, helped the survivors in Season 3, when others attacked the survivors. She won't leave the island, as she has nothing to go back to. In Season 4 she is together with the survivors and her daughter Alex. Alex has a boy friend called Karl who was also a member of others, but helped the survivors in earlier seasons.

Coming back to the game:

Danielle's (sentinel) role (watcher) fits well to the true story, as she is the one who knows the island very well and can watch all inhabitants without being caught. She is certainly a character who will find a place in AD's game setup. As nobody counterclaimed, I believe Sentinel tells the truth regarding his role and name.

My theory regarding Alex and Karl is that they are lovers. One of them is highly probable scum.

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by **gimpyThewonder** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:47 pm

unvote

I have it from a reliable source that Mandy is clean. I won't be 100% sure until the next day phase, but i'd give it an 80% chance of not scum. Also think about it, if Mandy (who is Miles) was scum he wouldn't have claimed that name, he would've gone w/ something different knowing the town bias against the boat people.

by **Selin** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:58 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
Selin wrote:Mandy, I don't question anymore if you are a watcher or not. It's not that important, we will find out that anyway.

After your name claim, my vote is now 100% for you, because you are a member of the third group in this game which is not townie for sure.

We need to find out, if this group is a second mafia, a third party or a cult.

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Might I point out that Watcher is a completely useless role for Scum?

Anyhow, if I am to die, I would just like to repeat my FOS on Ditto and Ditcoaf.
Also, the fact that Selin is unviling to resolve Cena-Nagerus isue, make me want to FOS Selin. I am not arguing that your contribution to the game so far has been second only to Pmchugh's, but, as I believe I have proved in Deadwood Mafia, even the most usefull players can turn out to be scum.

Don't worry about cena-nag issue. It is already clear that cena is a cop, however his sanity is not clear. As I wrote before cena is either insane or paranoid. And cena is not the only cop in the game. We have the real cop too. We will have 2 more results after tonight, so that we can have good leads for tomorrow. If we can find out that cena is insane we may use his results also.

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by **Selin** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:24 pm

gimpyThewonder wrote:unvote

I have it from a reliable source that Mandy is clean. I won't be 100% sure until the next day phase, but i'd give it an 80% chance of not scum. Also think about it, if Mandy (who is Miles) was scum he wouldn't have claimed that name, he would've gone w/ something different knowing the town bias against the boat people.

Could you explain what "clean" means?

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by **Sentinel XIV** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:27 pm

Selin wrote:
gimpyThewonder wrote:unvote

I have it from a reliable source that Mandy is clean. I won't be 100% sure until the next day phase, but i'd give it an 80% chance of not scum. Also think about it, if Mandy (who is Miles) was scum he wouldn't have claimed that name, he would've gone w/ something different knowing the town bias against the boat people.

Could you explain what "clean" means?

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And how do you know your source is "reliable"?

by **Selin** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:19 pm

Sentinel XIV wrote:
Selin wrote:
gimpyThewonder wrote:unvote

I have it from a reliable source that Mandy is clean. I won't be 100% sure until the next day phase, but i'd give it an 80% chance of not scum. Also think about it, if Mandy (who is Miles) was scum he wouldn't have claimed that name, he would've gone w/ something different knowing the town bias against the boat people.

Could you explain what "clean" means?

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And how do you know your source is "reliable"?

You can rely 80% on your own investigation results, if your name is Sayid and if you are the day cop and if you investigated nag on day 1 and if you got the result "scum" and if you investigated mandy on day two, but can't get an answer because AD was banned and if you now get the result "not scum". The only thing you can't be sure with 20 % is that you may be an insane cop.

Knowing that cena's name is Desmond and that he is a night cop and that he investigated nag at night 1 and that he got a "scum" result, but not knowing that cena is paranoid or not, you may question the possibility of having another cop in the game and question your own results.

Not knowing yet, but after knowing that there is another night cop in the game, whose name is Kate and who get correct results you may get a little confused.

Having many clues, but not being able to identify "the second scum group/or the third party group/or the cult group", someone may need to lynch mandy to get more info to place this third group in the game setup correctly.

If you see your name on this post and if you wonder how, you may want to rely on someone and follow him.

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by **gimpyThewonder** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:20 pm

clean = town

by **Selin** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:21 pm

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by **Sentinel XIV** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:22 pm

Selin wrote:.
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Why so angry?

by **Selin** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:28 pm

Sentinel XIV wrote:
Selin wrote:.
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Why so angry?

At 00:30 a.m. during a week day I may get angry, if gimpy can believe that mandy is townie.

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by **Sentinel XIV** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:32 pm

Anarkistsdream (I hereby name thee AD, since your name is so damn long! Although I'm sure you're already called that.), can we get an official vote count?

by **Selin** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:49 pm

Sentinel, you may want tell us my visitors of last night to help to solve the puzzle before the day 2 is over. I'm not sure that I can survive the second night.

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by **Sentinel XIV** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:51 pm

Selin wrote:Sentinel, you may want tell us my visitors of last night to help to solve the puzzle before the day 2 is over. I'm not sure that I can survive the second night.

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Just to be curious, but what are you thinking we will gain from me telling any names?

by **Selin** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:59 pm

Sentinel XIV wrote:
Selin wrote:Sentinel, you may want tell us my visitors of last night to help to solve the puzzle before the day 2 is over. I'm not sure that I can survive the second night.

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Just to be curious, but what are you thinking we will gain from me telling any names?

I expect to get clues about possible roles.
You can do it also by yourself. Take the list of non-voters of william, take the list of "tests" or "no-vote" voters of yesterday and compare it with the visitors.
In the second run compare it with mandy / nag / sentinel voters.
Take the known roles into account.

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by **Selin** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:03 pm

If you find a name on both williams and mandy's lists and if this is one of my visitors, don't name him here. He is highly probable town.

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by **Sentinel XIV** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:09 pm

Well, I'll wait for AD to put out his official vote count. Then I'll get to summarizing.

by **Sentinel XIV** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:17 pm

I would like to say one more thing to those on the fence about voting mandalorian:

He made a strong case against and voted for ditocoaf instead of william18. william18 was obviously Ben Linus. Mandalorian said his second strongest case was for william18, but he still voted for ditocoaf. Perhaps mandalorian knew who william18 was, seeing as how his character and Ben Linus had interactions between each other in the show? Maybe he wanted to draw attention away from william18.

by **Anarkistsdream** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:03 pm

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

(5) Nagerous – mandalorian2298, Sentinel XIV, GT, rebelman, SECRET VOTE
(6) Sentinel XIV - pmchugh, Fircoal, Nagerous, cmckinney, LoVo, Iliad
(3) Mandalorian2298 - Selin, /, ditocoaf

With 19 alive it takes ten to lynch!

YAY! I'm back and can give a vote count!

THANK YOU goes out to firth for doing vote counts in the interim! Thanks, bro!

by **nagerous** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:13 pm

Your vote counts wrong dude, me and sentinel unvoted and voted mandy on page 55. Don't know if there are other inconsistencies also.

by **Anarkistsdream** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:15 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

(5) Nagerous – mandalorian2298, Sentinel XIV, GT, rebelman, SECRET VOTE
(2) Sentinel XIV - Fircoal, Iliad
(7) Mandalorian2298 - Selin, /, ditocoaf, pmchugh, Nagerous, LoVO, cmckinney

With 19 alive it takes ten to lynch!

YAY! I'm back and can give a vote count!

THANK YOU goes out to firth for doing vote counts in the interim! Thanks, bro!

THANKS ALSO GO OUT TO NAG, for reminding me that I am a dumbass. 8-)

by **nagerous** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:18 pm

Sentinel XIV wrote:Unvote, just in case.

Vote: mandalorian

Even if his claim his true, his character doesn't appear to be of the best repute, what with making an alliance with Ben Linus and such. I think this is the best move in the end.

Need more help? hehe :mrgreen:

by **Anarkistsdream** on Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:19 pm

nagerous wrote:
Sentinel XIV wrote:Unvote, just in case.

Vote: mandalorian

Even if his claim his true, his character doesn't appear to be of the best repute, what with making an alliance with Ben Linus and such. I think this is the best move in the end.

Need more help? hehe

Fucker....

If my vote count is wrong, people, just tell me... Sorry, but I'm not going back through AGAIN!

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