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Real or Scam?

Postby static_ice on Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:26 pm

I got this email, and I do know better but I can't figure out how it would be a scam if it was... unless they plan to spam my phone with netherlandic telemarketing advertisers. And the linked site is giving me no clues at all. :-k
Shavonne Fielding (shavista@insightbb.com) wrote:YOUR DETAILS (*XXX*)
GRANT/DONATION CASH AID AWARD.
http://www.fondazionedivittorio.it
Dear Sir/Madam,
NOTIFICATION FOR CASH AID
The Fondazione Di Vittorio, would like to notify you that you have been chosen by the board of trustees as one of the final recipients of a Grant/Donation cash aid of USD$1,500,000.00 (One Million Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars) for your own personal education, and business development.The Fondazione Di Vittorio, established 1977 by the Multi-Million groups and now supported by United Nations Organization (UNO) and the European Union (EU), is conceived with the objective of human growth, educational, and community development thereby uplifting the standard of living of people.

Based on the random selection exercise of internet websites and millions of individuals and companies worldwide, you were selected among the lucky recipients to receive the award sum of US$1,500,000.00 as grant/donations cash aid from the Fondazione Di vittorio in accordance with the enabling act of Parliament.You are required to contact the paying bank in DEN HAAG NETHERLANDS for the processing of your grant/donation cash. Please endeavor to quote your Qualification Numbers (*XXX*) in all discussions.
Your fund is now deposited with the paying Bank.
To begin your claims, kindly contact the paying bank with the below information:
1. Name
2. Age
3. Telephone
4. Qualification Number
***************************************************
Bank Name: POST BANK NL
Contact Person: Mr. Van Robben
Email:postbank_nl@ozu.es
Tel: +31 641 648 111
Fax: +31 847 119 436
***************************************************
Regards.
Mrs.Georgette Maessen
(Foundation officer)

Or maybe the trick would be to ask my scammable information over the phone?
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby InkL0sed on Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:42 pm

Scam. Duh.
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby static_ice on Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:51 pm

How?
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby william18 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:56 pm

If this is true then why do you have to go to a bank in the Netherlands?
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby icedagger on Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:58 pm

You give them details, they follow up, you give them more details, arrange to meet in Netherlands, they mug you and steal your identity.. *yawn*
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby silvanricky on Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:24 pm

Pretty straight forward that it's a scam. The first reaction that you have to something is usually correct in those kinds of situations.
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby wicked on Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:30 pm

InkL0sed wrote:Scam. Duh.
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby GabonX on Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:35 pm

If they were going to pay you that much money they could afford to pay someone to bring it to you.
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby reminisco on Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:39 pm

this is totally above board.

not a scam at all.

also, if you tell me your bank account number and credit card number, you could be eligible to win a very big prize!
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby kerntheconkerer on Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:45 pm

wicked wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:Scam. Duh.

^
yea the more convincing it is the higher % its a scam, and its all too fishy
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby Anarkistsdream on Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:54 pm

wicked wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:Scam. Duh.
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby reminisco on Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:07 pm

Static, stop listening to them!

they're just jealous that you've won the prize money!

also, could you maybe help out a friend of mine? he's a nigerian monarch who has billions of dollars and wants to share a few million with you. but he's in some trouble, and just needs 10,000 bucks to get access to his fortune.

seriously, no scam!

also, i have a great timeshare opportunity to tell you about, but later, after you've had about 5 or 6 drinks. try my specialty, a Roofie Colada!
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby hecter on Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:01 pm

Static, I think you desperate need for a scholarship is clouding your judgement... It's a scam bud... First of all, nobody gives out million dollar scholarships, that's just stupid. Second of all, it's from another country, one that you presumably don't know much about and that will be difficult for you to find out about. Second of all, why would some organizations giving out money to Americans be both supported by the UN and the EU. It doesn't make sense... Now, why would they write you and English email and give you an Italian (or something) website? Why would you know their language? You wouldn't, that's why they gave you an English email, and a website that tells you nothing. Remember, if it's a scam they want to do as little work as they can, keeping you in the dark as much as possible while finding out as much information about you as they can. You call them, they get more and more information with you, you don't get any money. Lastly, always remember the Nigerian Prince... Always... Lastly, google is your friend.
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby Hologram on Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:53 pm

Check up with the EU and UNO to see if it's a real legit company. Then if it checks out there, go ahead and contact them.

Really, you can contact them if you want, but as soon as they ask for anything that they can scam you with (it can include your phone) then you'll want to contact them. If they want a bank account then tell them to do something like opening a Swiss bank account and depositing it there for a later wire transfer.
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby borox0 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:59 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
wicked wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:Scam. Duh.
I'm pretty sure there's a lot more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking. And I plan on finding out what that is.
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby TheProwler on Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:14 am

static_ice wrote:I got this email, and I do know better but I can't figure out how it would be a scam if it was... unless they plan to spam my phone with netherlandic telemarketing advertisers. And the linked site is giving me no clues at all. :-k
Shavonne Fielding (shavista@insightbb.com) wrote:YOUR DETAILS (*XXX*)
GRANT/DONATION CASH AID AWARD.
http://www.fondazionedivittorio.it
Dear Sir/Madam,
NOTIFICATION FOR CASH AID
The Fondazione Di Vittorio, would like to notify you that you have been chosen by the board of trustees as one of the final recipients of a Grant/Donation cash aid of USD$1,500,000.00 (One Million Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars) for your own personal education..........

Or maybe the trick would be to ask my scammable information over the phone?


Dude, something very similar to this happened to me...I called as a joke...they asked all kinds of questions about my financial position and things...I was nearly bankrupt, but I didn't want them to know that so I made it seem like I had a decent amount of money....I thought "What the hell, I have nothing to lose."...and I gave them whatever they asked for...I thought if I got even a portion of what they promised (in my case, it was only $500,000), it would be worth it...

Well, I got the whole $500,000! It was the best thing that ever happened to me!

I pre-paid my rent for the next 10 years. I pimped my '92 Honda Civic with $65000 of trim and a $15000 stereo. And I got huge credit and I maxed out my new $50,000 Platinum Visa! I'm runnin' low on coin now, but I'm taking a loan tomorrow and I'm gonna triple it all at the Casino this weekend!!!

Take my advice man, jump in with both feet.
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby Iliad on Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:43 am

borox0 wrote:
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wicked wrote:scam. duh
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby hecter on Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:05 pm

[quote="TheProwler"][quote="static_ice"]I got this email, and I do know better but I can't figure out how it would be a scam if it was... unless they plan to spam my phone with netherlandic telemarketing advertisers. And the linked site is giving me no clues at all. :-k
[quote="Shavonne Fielding (shavista@insightbb.com)"]YOUR DETAILS (*XXX*)
GRANT/DONATION CASH AID AWARD.
http://www.fondazionedivittorio.it
Dear Sir/Madam,
NOTIFICATION FOR CASH AID
The Fondazione Di Vittorio, would like to notify you that you have been chosen by the board of trustees as one of the final recipients of a Grant/Donation cash aid of USD$1,500,000.00 (One Million Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars) for your own personal education..........[/quote]
Or maybe the trick would be to ask my scammable information over the phone?[/quote]

Dude, something very similar to this happened to me...I called as a joke...they asked all kinds of questions about my financial position and things...I was nearly bankrupt, but I didn't want them to know that so I made it seem like I had a decent amount of money....I thought "What the hell, I have nothing to lose."...and I gave them whatever they asked for...I thought if I got even a portion of what they promised (in my case, it was only $500,000), it would be worth it...

Well, I got the whole $500,000! It was the best thing that ever happened to me!

I pre-paid my rent for the next 10 years. I pimped my '92 Honda Civic with $65000 of trim and a $15000 stereo. And I got huge credit and I maxed out my new $50,000 Platinum Visa! I'm runnin' low on coin now, but I'm taking a loan tomorrow and I'm gonna triple it all at the Casino this weekend!!!

Take my advice man, jump in with both feet.[/quote]
And you shouldn't be listening to this... Anybody who pimps a 92' Honda Civic with 80 grand worth of crap is obv. an idiot and should be ignored and distrusted. Listen to NOTHING he says, I say! NOTHING!

And it's a real organization whose name is being abused by scammers. Check the links I gave ya, it'll tell ya...
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby khazalid on Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:08 pm

did you really have to ask?
had i been wise, i would have seen that her simplicity cost her a fortune
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby mandalorian2298 on Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:50 pm

Rule one: If you haven't signed up then it's a scam.

Duh.


On the other hand, if all those e-mails are legit then I am suprised that digging up chests full of money isn't a bigger industry in Africa (with so many chests burried around, you could dig anywhere and you would probably dig on up :lol: )
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby static_ice on Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:02 pm

reminisco wrote:also, i have a great timeshare opportunity to tell you about, but later, after you've had about 5 or 6 drinks. try my specialty, a Roofie Colada!

Ooh! Oooh! As an american citizen I've always wanted to own land in Mexico!

hecter wrote:Static, I think you desperate need for a scholarship is clouding your judgement... It's a scam bud... First of all, nobody gives out million dollar scholarships, that's just stupid. Second of all, it's from another country, one that you presumably don't know much about and that will be difficult for you to find out about. Second of all, why would some organizations giving out money to Americans be both supported by the UN and the EU. It doesn't make sense... Now, why would they write you and English email and give you an Italian (or something) website? Why would you know their language? You wouldn't, that's why they gave you an English email, and a website that tells you nothing. Remember, if it's a scam they want to do as little work as they can, keeping you in the dark as much as possible while finding out as much information about you as they can. You call them, they get more and more information with you, you don't get any money. Lastly, always remember the Nigerian Prince... Always... Lastly, google is your friend.

Obviously I knew it was too good to be true (understatement going right there); I just wasn't positive on how it could be false.

hecter wrote:And you shouldn't be listening to this... Anybody who pimps a 92' Honda Civic with 80 grand worth of crap is obv. an idiot and should be ignored and distrusted. Listen to NOTHING he says, I say! NOTHING!

And what else does he do with 500 grand? Screw a house, I'll just lock myself in this shitty apartment for another 10 years! :lol:
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby TheProwler on Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:24 am

hecter wrote:And you shouldn't be listening to this... Anybody who pimps a 92' Honda Civic with 80 grand worth of crap is obv. an idiot and should be ignored and distrusted. Listen to NOTHING he says, I say! NOTHING!

And it's a real organization whose name is being abused by scammers. Check the links I gave ya, it'll tell ya...


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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:56 am

static_ice wrote:How?



1. pfishing

2. they have now validated your email and will therefore inundate you with more scams, sales offers, etc.

3. Phone calls can be rerouted to countries without a lot of regulation .... and you can end up with hefty charges. This happened to folks I know a few years ago. They called an 800 number about a sweepstakes, only to find $700, $900 and more charges on their bills. The phone company insisted the charges had to be paid because they originated internationally. The attorney's general, got involved, but I don't remember how it was resolved or if it was .. but BEWARE!!!

4. Use your brain. Sorry, but you have already said you are heading to college. Though College is not quite the "big bad world", you are entering the adult world and need to watch out for your self. At least you were smart enough to ASK when you were not sure. However, I have to say that this really should not even have been a question to anyone brought up in the internet age, as you must have been. (if you are just graduating high school now). Sorry, but this is the mom in me speaking. Go NOW to the sites mentioned above, but also check out the Attorney's Generals offices of your state and the US government. They have good information on scam detection. And, remember the old adage "if it sounds too good to be true ... it probably IS"
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby static_ice on Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:36 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
static_ice wrote:How?



1. pfishing

2. they have now validated your email and will therefore inundate you with more scams, sales offers, etc.

3. Phone calls can be rerouted to countries without a lot of regulation .... and you can end up with hefty charges. This happened to folks I know a few years ago. They called an 800 number about a sweepstakes, only to find $700, $900 and more charges on their bills. The phone company insisted the charges had to be paid because they originated internationally. The attorney's general, got involved, but I don't remember how it was resolved or if it was .. but BEWARE!!!

Ahkay.

And, remember the old adage "if it sounds too good to be true ... it probably IS"

Yeah, of course I wasn't going to try it I was just...curious.
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Re: Real or Scam?

Postby dustn64 on Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:05 pm

borox0 wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:
wicked wrote:scam. duh
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