"White-Pride" - Is this name meant to be offensive?

[treefiddy]

I suppose the black panthers don't count as a racist organization

show me a user named Black Panther...-0

p.s.-didn't "hitler" have his screen name changed?

memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=110048

Also:

memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=35088
memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=43727
memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=54837
memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=165957

It's also possible that lackattack mispelled his name upon registration and meant to make his name "Blackattack". He may, or may not be racist, but his name offends me because of this.

[Twill]

First off, busted as a multi with 2 other accounts.

Secondly, I am surprised at the arguing for argument sake that is going on in this thread.

"White Power" is a slogan often used by white supremacist movements and one which carries significant emotional, political and racist connotations with it.
The words themselves mean nothing, it is what they stand for that is offensive and what we do not wish to see spread on this site.

Racism is one of our few no-nos and as such, racism against any group, in any form, will be dealt with in whatever way is most appropriate.

If you guys want to continue walking the thin line between forum troll and white supremacist supporter, feel free to continue the argument about the power of words but I would strongly suggest that you tread carefully because these are sensitive topics to many, and this site is probably not the best arena for their discussion.

Have a good one
Twill

[wrestler1ump]

Posted by: MikeFromLux

Suspected user: White-Pride

Game: Not applicable

Comments: The following player insinuates that his race is superior to others through the use of a screen name that promotes pride in his heritage. His name is very hurtful and offensive to me because I feel insecure about my own nationality. Please ban said player from Conquerclub for the use of this name.

[MikeFromLux]

Posted by: MikeFromLux

Suspected user: White-Pride

Game: Not applicable

Comments: The following player insinuates that his race is superior to others through the use of a screen name that promotes pride in his heritage. His name is very hurtful and offensive to me because I feel insecure about my own nationality. Please ban said player from Conquerclub for the use of this name.

You got it totally wrong - how about pulling your head out of your ass, and google 'white-pride' - it has nothing to do with me or my nationality - You are either trying to get a rise out of me - or you yourself are a racist pig..... I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and lean toward the 1st.

[codeblue1018]

It is not about what "white pride" means when you google it. It is what others believe it to mean. Get rid of it, it is pathetic!

[rvolt24]

i find the name MikeFromLux to be offensive... i don't need to justify it... i find it offensive, so someone remove it...

i have the right to not even SEE things which i find different and therefore wrong...

everyone is allowed their own opinion as long as it is the same as mine...

i am sensitive to all people, unless they speak their mind... then they must go...

i like kittens of every color, except white or black kittens... i will, however, accept caucasion or african-american kittens...

i think everyone should love everyone... if you don't, i hate you...

i am the most tolerant person i know... because i don't associate myself with intolerent people... i can't tolerate intolerence...

i am MORE humble than you are... humility is possibly my best quality... it's that or my modesty...

oh... and i can also breathe with my head lodged firmly between my butt-cheeks... cool, huh?

[MikeFromLux]

i find the name MikeFromLux to be offensive... ?

Then I suggest you pm the mods - posting about it only draws out the immature and the weak minded to criticize you with sarcasm.....

[DuFFz]

mikefromlux: but didnt you post about an offensive name first? initiating the thread that supposedly "only draws out the immature and the weak minded to criticize you with sarcasm..... " you are a close minded individual who only views reality through a single lense. open your mind and quit your ignorance. you accuse him of multis....but can't back it up. (wheres the proof) who is his multi account? thats what this thread was initiated for....to stop a multi. then you change the subject to how you feel his name is offensive. then you contradict yourself in the above quote. you are immature and attempting to twist the story to your liking. stfu and move on with life.

[Twill]

Guys, enough.

It's a simple fact that White Power is a commonly used, commonly known, slogan of a violently racist group and as such has no place on this site.

If you want to argue that, then you are a moron or a racist yourself.

Drop the topic before this goes overboard.

[GabonX]

Guys, enough.

It's a simple fact that White Power is a commonly used, commonly known, slogan of a violently racist group and as such has no place on this site.

If you want to argue that, then you are a moron or a racist yourself.

Drop the topic before this goes overboard.

This is fine as long as the standard applies to other groups as well.

Would the name Black-Pride be acceptable or is too not allowed?

[GabonX]

Also the Nazis used the swastika but before that it was used in India. Should Indians not be allowed to use their symbol?

Likewise hate groups use the term white pride, but there were white people before these groups existed. Are white people no longer allowed to have pride?

Another post in this topic lists members with similar user names to White-Pride. Allowing these to exist while forbidding a white person to express pride in their race creates a double standard which is deeply offensive to a number of people on this site as evidenced by the dialouge here.

[MikeFromLux]

Also the Nazis used the swastika but before that it was used in India. Should Indians not be allowed to use their symbol?
.

Let's wait for an Indian to use a Swastika - then we will know how the mods feel about it. Until then - it's over GabonX - White Pride was a multi - (proven by Twill) and is banned. You will have to ask Twill whether White Pride was banned for being a multi or for the name.

[Twill]

The swastik and the swastika are two different symbols, they are designed differently, displayed differently and have very different meanings.

Don't argue just for the sake of arguing gabonx.

Are you saying that a blatantly white supremacist (and thus violently racist) name should be allowed on the site?
Regardless of anything else, should that name be allowed?

[GabonX]

Also the Nazis used the swastika but before that it was used in India. Should Indians not be allowed to use their symbol?
.

Let's wait for an Indian to use a Swastika - then we will know how the mods feel about it. Until then - it's over GabonX - White Pride was a multi - (proven by Twill) and is banned. You will have to ask Twill whether White Pride was banned for being a multi or for the name.

Somebody did have a swastika in their name for a period and nothing was done about it.

This is a discussion about principles. Whether or not these things have taken place has no relevance as to whether or not they would be right or wrong. In addition their have been a number of examples posted which you conveniently fail to address.

[MikeFromLux]

This is a discussion about principles. Whether or not these things have taken place has no relevance as to whether or not they would be right or wrong. In addition their have been a number of examples posted which you conveniently fail to address.

I will go on record as saying - I have never seen 'black-pride' used as a slogan or on a banner or a website devoted to hate or racism - that does not mean it does not exist - (I think this is the 2nd time I have said that)

Likewise - all of the other 'XXXXX-pride' names I have seen mentioned here - I have never seen any of those on a banner, website, flag, or used as a slogan for hate groups - therefore I am not offended. Show me one - and I will tell you if it offends me or not.

Since you are so keen to know what offends me -before admitting yourself that 'white-pride' is offensive and racist (my stance on all things offensive seem to hinge on your judgement of whether 'white-pride' is offensive or not) -

Here is a list:

1. Racism - in any form offends me
2. Gross mismanagement of resources (including tax payer dollars) offend me
3. People who urinate on public property (not including national parks) offend me
4. the sight of vomit - feces - and things that I am sure are bodily fluids of some type tend to offend me
5. the objectificaiton of women offend me - although I admit that I am guilty of it from time to time - 1000 years of male dominated culture and alll.....
6. Swearing in Church
7. People who ignore the Elderly
8. People who make fun of the retarded
.......... the list goes on frankly -

Have I given you enough examples of things that offend me Gabonx? Do you have enough information now to determine if I am justified in being offended by 'white-power'????

[GabonX]

The swastik and the swastika are two different symbols, they are designed differently, displayed differently and have very different meanings.

Don't argue just for the sake of arguing gabonx.

Are you saying that a blatantly white supremacist (and thus violently racist) name should be allowed on the site?
Regardless of anything else, should that name be allowed?

Personally I am for freedom of speach and I think people should be allowed to say what they want. I realise that the site does not care about freedom of speech however it does bother me when there is a double standard...

Alot of people here don't see the name WP as being blatantly racist. I would say that it probably is but it is completely unfair to allow other people to have names with (insert group here)-Pride and to not allow White-Pride.

Just because a group uses a term does not mean that everyone who uses the term agrees with everything that this other group stands for. The Nazi party was known as the National Socialist Party in Germany but it would be difficult to claim that all social programs are wrong because of the actions of this one group.

I am not arguing just for the sake of arguing. Alot of people I know are deeply disturbed by the double standards that exist regarding issues like this. This debate could be ended by a statement proclaiming that names wimilar to White-Pride but regarding another group are also unnacceptable but this would have reprecussions as there are many such names on this site.

[Twill]

This debate could be ended by a statement proclaiming that names wimilar to White-Pride but regarding another group are also unnacceptable but this would have reprecussions as there are many such names on this site.

Names and content promoting overt, implied or commonly understood connotations of racism, xenophobia, violent homophobia, religion bashing or hatred will be dealt with as seen fit and in accordance with the no-nos listed in the forum guidelines.

Always have been, always will be.

[KoE_Sirius]

This debate could be ended by a statement proclaiming that names wimilar to White-Pride but regarding another group are also unnacceptable but this would have reprecussions as there are many such names on this site.

Names and content promoting overt, implied or commonly understood connotations of racism, xenophobia, violent homophobia, religion bashing or hatred will be dealt with as seen fit and in accordance with the no-nos listed in the forum guidelines.

Always have been, always will be.

This is the www and I wasnt really aware of the implications of the name until reading this thread .
Whats do you mean Twill ?..........Are you saying we should/shouldnt be proud to be white/black and that this is or isn't racist ?

[Twill]

Whats do you mean Twill ?..........Are you saying we should/shouldnt be proud to be white/black and that this is or isn't racist ?

It has nothing to do with pride, it has everything to do with hatred.

I'm proud to be a member of CC, that doesn't mean I hate and want to lynch every member of landgrab or W@W.

There is a big difference.

[The1exile]

I'm proud to be a member of CC, that doesn't mean I hate and want to lynch every member of landgrab or W@W.

Yet your ruling on this, saying white-pride = kill all else, suggests that signing up with a name like CC-pride would/should be promoting that view.

I'm confused.

[THORNHEART]

...i say go white pride....white males are always degraded and told that they are recist and bums and idiots and generally the source of all problems in society so i say NO!!! stop allowing uorselfs to be spit on and told were trash and scum and bums!!! the white man needs to stand up remember that it was the white man the ruled the world for hundreds of years and start acting like responsible people again and let the world know were not gonna be accepting the blame for everything any more WHITE PRIDE!!!!

[cena-rules]

I have the same question

would black-prade be acceptable?

[KoE_Sirius]

Whats do you mean Twill ?..........Are you saying we should/shouldnt be proud to be white/black and that this is or isn't racist ?

It has nothing to do with pride, it has everything to do with hatred.

I'm proud to be a member of CC, that doesn't mean I hate and want to lynch every member of landgrab or W@W.

There is a big difference.

Well I'm proud to be white .I hope my coloured friends are proud to be Black.
Hell Run DMC even rapped a song about it

[treefiddy]

Does Twill even know that the user's name is "White-Pride" and not "White Power"? He's said "White Power" twice now in reference to the user.

There's a pretty big difference between the two. On google, one produces very few *hate* results; while the other has the entire first page being about racist organizations and hate groups.

[SlayerQC]

lots of effin retards on this thread is all I have to say!
but hey, threads like this attracts such people.