GODFATHER MAFIA - FINALLY OVER! CORLEONES WIN!!!

[rebelman]

until he tries to explain his day killers comment / has to be our top candidate for a lynch unvote vote /

[Selin]

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SFOS Lion & Selin they are both good players and yet they both want to protect Fircoal despite the fact that he claimed a scum roll. If Fircoal come out as Scum, I'm betting at least one of these two is scum as well.

My vote stays on Fircoal (YAY! ).

I'm not sure if you are skimming or fishing. On the contrary what you say mandy, I wrote from the beginning on that Fircoal is either scum, or will become scum during next days. The important information we have right at the moment is that both Fircoal and / are cops. Repeating: They are both cops! Think what does this mean for the scum families! We may assume that at least one of them is pro town for now. We will have two investigation results tomorrow, unless scum families wont be able to kill one of them tonight. It may sound you a little weird, but by not lynching Fircoal we may force (at least) the carleone's, because any information of Fircoal will go to the other scum family. The key point here is that we have at least two scum families in the game and most probably they have to eliminate other families to win the game.

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[Selin]

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SFOS Lion & Selin they are both good players and yet they both want to protect Fircoal despite the fact that he claimed a scum roll. If Fircoal come out as Scum, I'm betting at least one of these two is scum as well.

My vote stays on Fircoal (YAY! ).

I'm not sure if you are skimming or fishing. On the contrary what you say mandy, I wrote from the beginning on that Fircoal is either scum, or will become scum during next days. The important information we have right at the moment is that both Fircoal and / are cops. Repeating: They are both cops! Think what does this mean for the scum families! We may assume that at least one of them is pro town for now. We will have two investigation results tomorrow, unless scum families wont be able to kill one of them tonight. It may sound you a little weird, but by not lynching Fircoal we may force (at least) the carleone's, because any information of Fircoal will go to the other scum family. The key point here is that we have at least two scum families in the game and most probably they have to eliminate other families to win the game.

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PS: I wouldnt have hesitated any single second to vote fircoal, if we had had only one scum group in the game.

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Bah, you all are completely paranoid, picking at every little thing everyone says, I keep saying, heres how it goes and this is all I know
Start of the game: I get my role PM it tells me I'm put into action because I suspect my captain
19 Mar 2008 22:10: I read my role and confirm, then I sit back and watch the game seeing who should be investigated the upcoming night
19 Mar 2008 23:33: a bunch of day kills, I now wait a few days to make sure the kills aren't still continuing, hardly scum behavior.
I make several useless posts
22 Mar 2008 21:34 I figure there's no telling how many people will die at night or day in a mafia themed mafia, so I claim.
Since then I've just been arguing with you all.
seriously that's it I just waited a few days to monitor everyone's behavior and make sure I wasn't in day kill danger.

Anyways I never said my role was "deputy" I said my Name is "Deputy" As far as I can tell for now I'm just a cop.
As for my experiance playing, the games I've played here are my first, before that I've only heard of Mafia/werewolf on the other forums I've been to, but never played.
so 4 games finished 1 won
1 game modded
2 I'm playing now.

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Also putting time as a factor in this game, since roles change I'm going to assume the most likely scenario is right now, I'm a naive cop and Fircoal is sane town cop, so we shouldn't lynch him yet.
but later on in the game I will probably be an experienced sane cop and he will be scum cop

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[MountainLion]

Also putting time as a factor in this game, since roles change I'm going to assume the most likely scenario is right now, I'm a naive cop and Fircoal is sane town cop, so we shouldn't lynch him yet.
but later on in the game I will probably be an experienced sane cop and he will be scum cop

Well if that is truly what will happen, I don't even know if we still can trust Fircoal. If you knew there would be a strong possibility you would eventually become scum, why help the town now, because you'd just be hurting your future self.

This whole subject is really difficult to decide on.

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Also putting time as a factor in this game, since roles change I'm going to assume the most likely scenario is right now, I'm a naive cop and Fircoal is sane town cop, so we shouldn't lynch him yet.
but later on in the game I will probably be an experienced sane cop and he will be scum cop

Well if that is truly what will happen, I don't even know if we still can trust Fircoal. If you knew there would be a strong possibility you would eventually become scum, why help the town now, because you'd just be hurting your future self.

This whole subject is really difficult to decide on.

Ah, well, so far the two townies dead had scum names right? if they were supposed to be scum later too, then maybe there aren't that many mafia members right now and we can kill them all before any of this goes into effect.
Still anything I'm saying now is just a guess.

[MountainLion]

I'm sure nag would have intended that roles who begin town but end up scum wouldn't know it would happen.

Either way we'll never know who turns and who doesn't, but I tend to think McCluskey would turn scum if he wasn't already.

I don't know...what does everyone else think?

[Talapus]

I'm sure nag would have intended that roles who begin town but end up scum wouldn't know it would happen.

Either way we'll never know who turns and who doesn't, but I tend to think McCluskey would turn scum if he wasn't already.

I don't know...what does everyone else think?

There is no way Nag would have missed the fact that McCluskey was a crooked cop. Sooner or later Fircoal will be scum. If not yet, then soon.

[wicked]

Bah, you all are completely paranoid, picking at every little thing everyone says

Welcome to mafia. It's how we pick out scum. A little slipup here, or there. And you still didn't answer the question of how you knew there would be day kills.

unvote vote /

[/]

Bah, you all are completely paranoid, picking at every little thing everyone says

Welcome to mafia. It's how we pick out scum. A little slipup here, or there. And you still didn't answer the question of how you knew there would be day kills.

unvote vote /

I'm pretty sure I did, try re-reading it, I never said I knew about any day kills, I just saw day kills an hour after I got here then waited for a few days to make sure there weren't any more.
So yes I knew there were day kills after they happened as anyone can see.
If you are waiting for me to "slip up" that won't be happening, I have nothing more to say but the exact same things I've been repeating for the last few days, so stop asking the same questions over and over again.

[Neoteny]

Unvote. You people and your "logic" are all fouling me up...

[riggable]

Bah, you all are completely paranoid, picking at every little thing everyone says

Welcome to mafia. It's how we pick out scum. A little slipup here, or there. And you still didn't answer the question of how you knew there would be day kills.

unvote vote /

I'm pretty sure I did, try re-reading it, I never said I knew about any day kills, I just saw day kills an hour after I got here then waited for a few days to make sure there weren't any more.
So yes I knew there were day kills after they happened as anyone can see.
If you are waiting for me to "slip up" that won't be happening, I have nothing more to say but the exact same things I've been repeating for the last few days, so stop asking the same questions over and over again.

This whole explanation strikes me as scummy, his logic doesn't really explain anything, and I thought he was scummy awhile back as well. Keep an eye on this fellow.
FOS: /

[lord voldemort]

hmmm

i am unsure...
/ actions look super scummy, how would he know about day kills etc.
i think general consensus is more than one scum faction. and 2 day kills...
i also highly doubt there would be more than 2 day killing powers...nag wants this game to last.
i also think that the kill scame from noob town or scum/3rdparty
no experienced player pro town would use this power early day 1.
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fosing / rebelman

[CrabNebula]

hmmm

i am unsure...
/ actions look super scummy, how would he know about day kills etc.
i think general consensus is more than one scum faction. and 2 day kills...
i also highly doubt there would be more than 2 day killing powers...nag wants this game to last.
i also think that the kill scame from noob town or scum/3rdparty
no experienced player pro town would use this power early day 1.
unvote

fosing / rebelman

Wrong in everything. / already explained your first point and Mandy or ga7 (I can't remember who) already explained how the kills are probably from experienced players.

So FOS lovo for skimming on all accounts and bringing up the same point when its already been answered. Subtle pushing

[CrabNebula]

The key point here is that we have at least two scum families in the game and most probably they have to eliminate other families to win the game.
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What suggests that there are two or more scum families? And I think I may missed it, but you have not answered how you know Solozzo has a doc?

[lord voldemort]

hmmm

i am unsure...
/ actions look super scummy, how would he know about day kills etc.
i think general consensus is more than one scum faction. and 2 day kills...
i also highly doubt there would be more than 2 day killing powers...nag wants this game to last.
i also think that the kill scame from noob town or scum/3rdparty
no experienced player pro town would use this power early day 1.
unvote

fosing / rebelman

Wrong in everything. / already explained your first point and Mandy or ga7 (I can't remember who) already explained how the kills are probably from experienced players.

So FOS lovo for skimming on all accounts and bringing up the same point when its already been answered. Subtle pushing

and i cant disagree with mandy or frenchie??

imo for example if mandy, frenchie, me, you etc got a day vig power...would you use it in the first few hours of the game???
no
however your second or third game in. you finally get a killing power lets go crazy...
and i think / is back tracking.......
what im saying is that if the day kills are from a scum faction then they could very well be anyone. / is saying he didnt come out for fear of day kills. yet you see 2 day kills in a game where nag has said that it will progress well/spent months and months on it. i doubt he would have an all out slaughter day 1. which makes me beleive that / is lying (well not telling the full truth)

[CrabNebula]

No the point was not whether or not I would use it in the first few hours of the game. The point was, who would I use it on. If I were the day killer, I would make sure that my target would be as random as possible so as to keep the scent away from me. And jnd dying is a proof of this.

[lord voldemort]

true it would be like if chu was day killer and killed mandy its obvious
what im saying with that is that we have no idea if day killer is town or not.
if they were town and an experienced player i highly doubt they would blindly kill like that

[rebelman]

What suggests that there are two or more scum families? And I think I may missed it, but you have not answered how you know Solozzo has a doc?

his doc theory seems logical to me especially with 30 + players also the very first scene post suggests at least 3 groups (as i pointed out previously)

scum family 1

scum family 2

town

also please note the part i underlined as several posters seem to be overlooking this

It is August 1945, the war is over and the Corleone family are at the height of their power. Unfortunately, in doing so they have succeeded in entering a bitter street-war with the Barzini family and have made a number of enemies along the way. The entire state is in a complete and utter state of paranoia with no-one trusting each other. In order to crack down on the wave of street crime, the corrupt Senator Pat Geary has proposed a democratic system to lynch whoever the majority of people believe to be the chief cause of the bloodshed that is taking place on the streets. Perhaps if all threats are eliminated then peace can be restored to the city. [/color]

[Clive]

What suggests that there are two or more scum families? And I think I may missed it, but you have not answered how you know Solozzo has a doc?

his doc theory seems logical to me especially with 30 + players also the very first scene post suggests at least 3 groups (as i pointed out previously)

scum family 1

scum family 2

town

also please note the part i underlined as several posters seem to be overlooking this

It is August 1945, the war is over and the Corleone family are at the height of their power. Unfortunately, in doing so they have succeeded in entering a bitter street-war with the Barzini family and have made a number of enemies along the way. The entire state is in a complete and utter state of paranoia with no-one trusting each other. In order to crack down on the wave of street crime, the corrupt Senator Pat Geary has proposed a democratic system to lynch whoever the majority of people believe to be the chief cause of the bloodshed that is taking place on the streets. Perhaps if all threats are eliminated then peace can be restored to the city. [/color]

At a glance, that makes sense.

Only been a couple of days and I have a load of new pages to read...Tonight.

[Selin]

The key point here is that we have at least two scum families in the game and most probably they have to eliminate other families to win the game.
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What suggests that there are two or more scum families? And I think I may missed it, but you have not answered how you know Solozzo has a doc?

Regarding more than one scum families you should watch the films or read the book. that's what the film is all about!

Although I watched the films more than once , it has been quiet a long time that I watched them. That's why I mixed the Tattaglias with Solozzo's. There was no Solozzo family in the film. As AD already stated, Solozzo worked for Tattaglias.

Regarding to your question of doctor role, isn't it clear? If you have 35 players in a game, you will most probably have the most common roles like cops, doctors in the game.

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[Kernal_Kronic]

Shit, i miss a few days & now i've got 50 pages to read...i'll be back

[Iliad]

I'm still not sure about /. His(her?) defense doesn't sound great and I'm not entirely convinced