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Postby mr. incrediball on Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:14 am

sam_levi_11 wrote:that doesnt answer my question, if you have a note are you scum, cos i dont know whats happenin here


read through browng's plotline seems to suggest yes, everyone with a death note is corrupted by its power and therefore scum or sk.

then again, having never watched the series, i could be wrong.
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Postby browng-08 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:24 am

mr. incrediball wrote:
sam_levi_11 wrote:that doesnt answer my question, if you have a note are you scum, cos i dont know whats happenin here


read through browng's plotline seems to suggest yes, everyone with a death note is corrupted by its power and therefore scum or sk.

then again, having never watched the series, i could be wrong.
Everyone who has one in this game will be. The group of cops helping L manage to confiscate one, but never use it (or do they...?)
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:34 am

in that case....

i am Police Officer Hirokazu Ukita night cop, assigned to the kira case, im a passionate police officer and won't quit this case.
once per night i may send he mod a name and he will send me back a result of wether they have the deth note or not.
Goal Find the notes or stop the ki;ling somehow

I have investigated lord voldermort and the result i have gotten is he does have a deth note.


vote lovo
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Postby browng-08 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:36 am

sam_levi_11 wrote:in that case....

i am Police Officer Hirokazu Ukita night cop, assigned to the kira case, im a passionate police officer and won't quit this case.
once per night i may send he mod a name and he will send me back a result of wether they have the deth note or not.
Goal Find the notes or stop the ki;ling somehow

I have investigated lord voldermort and the result i have gotten is he does have a deth note.


vote lovo
Good lead then. vote Lovo
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Postby mandyb on Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:48 am

ok, here we go again!
First of all thank you browng for your summary of the plot - it helps a lot.
Sierra, I have finished one real mafia game and I am now in 2, this one and Mass Effect. The first game was C9 in which there were mafia, bandits and town. That game was extremely basic compared to this one. I assumed that that terminology(mafia, bandit and town) would also apply to any game.
Your points:
Trying to appear ignorant;
I am not asking questions to appear ignorant, I am ignorant - certainly as far as this game goes.
Is the word bandit in my pm?;
no, it isn't - I already explained my reason for using this word - I assumed with all 'mafia' games this was standard terminology. What would you prefer - goodies and baddies?

More important for scum to know what they're up against?;
is it really?
Don't scum know each other therefore it is just as important for town to have information, if not MORE important.
then you say this;
Interesting. I figured the scum groups would hold the death notes, but you seem to know otherwise. Care to explain how you would know about this unless you're scum without a death note or 3rd party holding a death note yourself?

Yes, I figure the scum group/groups will hold the death note/notes. Where did I say that I didn't believe this?
My point was that if there were 2 scum groups each holding a death note, that would seem unfair and very difficult for town.

then:
he question you asked about the death notes working in unison doesn't sound like a question that you would actually hope to get answered. Who could answer it for you except for scum? It sounds more like a question you asked to make it very clear to the town that you have absolutely no clue about how the death notes work. Right....

why wouldn't this question have a possible answer? As I said before, I don't know the story - those that do could possibly have helped out by informing us that, yes there is more than one death note and the groups that hold them do indeed work together or yes, there are 2 death notes, but the groups do not work together. Is this a scummy question? I don't believe it is - we need all the information we can get.

and then this;
Kiwi did the same? In that case, FOS kiwi. However, someone doing something scummy before you does not clear your name by the least.
About suggs's roleclaim: if you read nagerous's posts you should agree it was not the smartest thing to do.
And concerning your cries of "I'm just a n00biew00bie how could I be scum?!": get real. It's not working for you.


You are obviously mafia king around here - you know it all don't you? I don't like your condecending tone - just because you've played as much as you have doesn't give you the right to insult people!
Why don't you get real - if you don't believe I'm new to mafia, that's your problem. And if asking questions is what's caused you to suspect me, then perhaps I shouldn't have asked any! There are plenty of people who don't have a lot to say for themselves.

Of course with all this skill and expertise you have, you and your scum buddies could very easily be trying to get the town to focus on someone while they carry out their dirty work - that someone happens to be me.
You have compiled a list of my questions and are desperately trying to make them look scummy - 'all my posts added together spell scum' according to you!
Well, a big FOS on Sierra - you're clutching at straws mate - I know I'm not scum and you can't twist my posts for your own ends.
All this focus on me is distracting us from the real task in hand - to find scum!
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Postby mandyb on Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:52 am

sam_levi_11 wrote:in that case....

i am Police Officer Hirokazu Ukita night cop, assigned to the kira case, im a passionate police officer and won't quit this case.
once per night i may send he mod a name and he will send me back a result of wether they have the deth note or not.
Goal Find the notes or stop the ki;ling somehow

I have investigated lord voldermort and the result i have gotten is he does have a deth note.


vote lovo


looks like a decent lead - what does lord voldermort have to say?

btw sierra, seems I'm not the only one who is a little lost with this story!
Although you do seem very clued up on it...
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Postby browng-08 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:57 am

mandyb wrote:
sam_levi_11 wrote:in that case....

i am Police Officer Hirokazu Ukita night cop, assigned to the kira case, im a passionate police officer and won't quit this case.
once per night i may send he mod a name and he will send me back a result of wether they have the deth note or not.
Goal Find the notes or stop the ki;ling somehow

I have investigated lord voldermort and the result i have gotten is he does have a deth note.


vote lovo


looks like a decent lead - what does lord voldermort have to say?

btw sierra, seems I'm not the only one who is a little lost with this story!
Although you do seem very clued up on it...
He's a fan. :wink:
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Postby mandyb on Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:00 pm

He's a fan. :wink:[/quote]

so it seems :D
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:02 pm

mandy are u voting lovo or not
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Postby mandyb on Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:11 pm

VOTE LOVO

your info sounds reliable, Sam and Sierra aside, seems all we have to go on atm
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Postby mr. incrediball on Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:20 pm

excellentness.

vote lovo.

good work, sam.
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Postby browng-08 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:24 pm

I'm going to continue the plot summary, but first, I forgot to mention a character. W, whose real name I won't mention for the advantage of the game, acts as the intermediary between L and the police. Until L reveals himself, to a select few and under a pseudonym, W carries the computer that L speaks through, and transfers call, etc. W is town

Anyways, Light and Misa are locked in solitary, with special precautions to block eyesight, restrain movement, etc, but all of this is voluntarily suggested by Light to 'prove' his innocence. Light has Rem (Misa's shinigami) gave a Death Note to another person, at Rem's discretion. He and Misa also give up ownership of the Notes. (PS- This means they have absolutely no recollection of ever possessting them. This effect lasts as long as they hwve not touched a Note. Once they do, they remember everything.) Rem gives the Note to a Yotsuba Group boardmember (I'll leave this unnamed, too). The Yotsuba Group is a major Japanese company (pharmaceuticals, I think), and the new owner decides to use the Note to advance the company. He calls seven other members together to hold secret meetings where they decide who Kira should kill to help the company. He is also required to keep killing criminals to distract L (he's told this by Rem, it's a condition of him being allowed to use the Death Note at all). The Death Note owner (I'll call him 3rd Kira from now on) recruits them anonymously so none of the board members no who '3rd Kira' is, (that is to say, for all they know, it could be any one of the other boardmembers) and they only take part in the meetings to avoid being killed. (PS- That means 7 of the Yotsuba are technically town, one is scum/3rdparty) Meanwhile, L finally decides Light and Misa aren't responsible for the latest kills, so even though he still supects them, he lets them go. Light starts to work alongside L (remember, he has no memories of being Kira) and Misa is kept in a bugged hotel room, but is allowed to leave when escorted by Matsuda (a cop) Light and L narrow down the new supects to someone in the yotsuba Group, and eventually manage to 'bug' one of the secret meetings. They logically deduce one of the members ot most likely not be 3rd Kira and phone him. They convince him to cooperate, by acting as a mole. (PS- This member may actually be in the game, whereas the others are less likely. he would be town/3rd party, because his motivations are primarily to save his own skin) Eventually, they manage to capture 3rd Kira. In the process, Light touches a Death Note, and regains his memories. He then uses a scrap of the Note's paper, hidden in his watch, to kill 3rd Kira before he could reveal any information. He kills the rest of the Yotsuba Group over the course of the next couple of days. At this point, Light has a huge advantage over L: he is no longer as suspected, he has seen L, and he remebers everything from before. As soon as he can get misa to see L's true name, checkmate.
i'll end the summary at this point for now.
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Postby browng-08 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:29 pm

One more note: All of the rules for the Death Note are written on the inside cover. Some include;
-The human whose name is written in this note shall die.
-This note will not take effect unless the writer has the subject's face in their mind when writing his/her name. Therefore, people sharing the same name will not be affected.
-If the cause of death is written within 40 seconds of writing the subject's name, it will happen.
-If the cause of death is not specified, the subject will simply die of a heart attack.
-After writing the cause of death, the details of the death should be written in the next 6 minutes and 40 seconds (400 seconds).
Before giving away his Death Note, he had Ryuk write additional rules on the Note. They included:
-If a name is not written in the Note at least once every 13 days, the owner will die.
This 'rule' seems to prove Light and Misa to be innocent because they are held in acptivity for months. This is discovered when 3rd Kira's Note is confiscated. That is why Light is no longer as suspected by L.
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Postby FiveThreeEight on Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:17 pm

mandyb wrote:The first game was C9 in which there were mafia, bandits and town. That game was extremely basic compared to this one. I assumed that that terminology(mafia, bandit and town) would also apply to any game.


If the game you are referring to was the one I ended up winning, then I don't recall the term "bandits" ever being tossed around.

As far as sam_levi_11's claim, I believe him. It's a very good lead to go on.

Unvote.(just in case)

Vote: LV.
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Postby browng-08 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:44 pm

I have to go soon. i won't be able to get back online until Monday. I'll need a temporary replacement.

If someone who's read teh entire manga want's to pick up from where I left off, feel free! Otherwise, Let it be known the following:
-Near is anti-kira, but is in competition with Mello. He would be either town, 3rd party or even possibly a second scum group. I'll go deeper into this when I continue the plot summary.
-Mello is L's replacement after he dies. He'll either be a deputy to L or a investigative role himself Clearly town
-There is one more shinigami in the manga, other than Ryuk and Rem
-Shinigami can kill by themselves. They might be Sk/vigs.
There may be roles that change alliances. Both Teru and Light's second girlfriend (can't remember name...?) are likely supects. Kira seeks them out, and they join him to work as Kira. This mean's Light may not know who is potentially on his side, and has a mason/cultist type recruiting ability. Watch out for this! Kira needs to be sure who he can trust beftore recruiting anyone, as there's only likely to be 2-3 people who's roles will allow them to convert.
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Postby nagerous on Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:45 pm

maybe you can vote lovo before you go brown
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Postby suggs on Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:51 pm

UNVOTE VOTE LORD VOLDEMORT
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Postby suggs on Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:52 pm

And lets lynch Sierra tomorrow, for bullying. Or rather, attempted bullying- I think Mandy rather busted his flush.
Unless he sorts it out. :)
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Postby browng-08 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:07 pm

browng-08 wrote:
sam_levi_11 wrote:in that case....

i am Police Officer Hirokazu Ukita...

...I have investigated lord voldermort and the result i have gotten is he does have a deth note.


vote lovo
Good lead then. vote Lovo
Already did. :roll:
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Postby browng-08 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:16 pm

Small Summary Update:
Light is back to being Kira, but can't actually continue to use the Death Note, because he's under constant supervision. He's literally handcuffed to L. Thus, Light needs to find a new Kira. I'll have to reread, I can't remember the rest very well.
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Postby browng-08 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:22 pm

Okay, based on what I know:
baggins994(Kiyomi Takada, One shot vigilante, Pro-Kira)
Talapus (Ray Penber Tracker)
william18 (Near town day cop.)
darth emperor (Kanzo Mogi one shot cop)

Takada was Lights's second girlfriend. He used her to get the 4th Kira. If Takada's been killed, it's very likely Light doesn't know who is on his team.

Ray Penbar did have a fiancee, so sugg's claim checks out. She ruthlessly seeks out Kira after he kills Ray. Kira has her commit suicide.

If Near's Town, then that's one less problem for us. I was thinking he might be 3rd or even a second mafia. It's a shame he died, he'd have been useful.

Mogi was one of the Japanese cops. We can expect a few more one shot cops, though there may be one naive one. (Not letting out the name of who they may be...)
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Postby Neoteny on Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:23 pm

I think now would be a good time for LoVo to claim...
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Postby FiveThreeEight on Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:34 pm

Yes. Can we get a vote count, and hold off on speed-lynching LV, just in case?
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Postby Minister Masket on Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:36 pm

GAH! SPOILERS!
This thread is a spoiler minefield for someone who hasn't seen past episode 12 yet!

Also, nice work on finding out Mr V is holding a death note. However, I already knew this. You just got there before I did.
Vote Lord Voldemort!

Now then, another question appears. What happenes to death note once he is lynched?
Also, what happenes to the Shinigami?
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Postby suggs on Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:43 pm

How did you already know Moldymort had a death note?
You a cop too?
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