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Is it wrong to join a private game you were not invited to by guessing the PW

 
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Postby DiM on Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:25 pm

ignore list + negative feedback. that's what i'd do if a moron joined my private game regardless of how easy my password is.

if a game is private and i wasn't invited then i won't try joining.


btw some tournaments have really easy passwords like "1-2" or "round1game3", does that mean that morons should start joining random tourney games?? of course not because that would ruin the fun for others.

PS: jamie just made my ignore list.
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Postby comic boy on Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:55 pm

I think Moron is an apt description for somebody who gatecrashes a private game and then tries to justify it, happened a couple of times to me and straight on ignore was the reward. One person managed to stay in a game because he joined last....he was gone in 4 rounds :lol:
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Postby Fruitcake on Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:49 pm

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Postby Snorri1234 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:35 pm

Anyone suprised that Jamie is considered a dick by the majority?
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Postby cleveridea on Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:31 pm

Jamie, in my opinion you did not bypass the security controls - you used the security controls as intended: using a password. Nor was it unauthorized. The password IS the authorization, like a bearer bond or cash.

If possessing the password is in fact NOT authorization, then the game system designers should have implemented at least a half-ass method of inviting players by granting authorization to specific credentials, a pattern implemented in a zillion other systems. They didn't; so I say keep crashing until they do.
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Postby Snorri1234 on Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:23 am

cleveridea wrote:Jamie, in my opinion you did not bypass the security controls - you used the security controls as intended: using a password. Nor was it unauthorized. The password IS the authorization, like a bearer bond or cash.

If possessing the password is in fact NOT authorization, then the game system designers should have implemented at least a half-ass method of inviting players by granting authorization to specific credentials, a pattern implemented in a zillion other systems. They didn't; so I say keep crashing until they do.


So because it is easy to break in it's okay?

You don't coincedentally rob houses if they leave the door open, do you?
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Postby cleveridea on Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:13 am

Snorri1234 wrote:So because it is easy to break in it's okay?


Learn how to actually read. That wasn't what I wrote, and that wasn't my point.

My point was that he wasn't violating the rules he agreed to when he signed up to play CC.

There's a million shithead things you can do on CC that aren't violating the rules. This was just yet another one.

The software controls in place are lacking; and that was my point.
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Postby lozzini on Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:16 am

i think its funny when u geuss stupid easy passwords like 'rt' or 'game', other people can drop the game if they want anyway. only did it once, other players thjought it was quite funny
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Postby Dancing Mustard on Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:19 am

cleveridea wrote:There's a million shithead things you can do on CC that aren't violating the rules. This was just yet another one.

The software controls in place are lacking; and that was my point.
Lacking though they may be, that doesn't avoid the fact that Jamie (and anybody doing the same thing) is, as you so aptly put it, a Shithead.


So it's official kids, Jamie is a Shithead.
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Postby hideaway on Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:07 am

It's just plain wrong. Quit justifying it.
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Postby cleveridea on Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:18 pm

hideaway wrote:It's just plain wrong. Quit justifying it.


If you are speaking to me (I can't tell if you are), then what is also plain wrong is all the people who voted that it's wrong and yet don't hold the caretakers of the system to put a software control in place.

For instance, we could roll our own dice physically and input the values. Putting in inflated rolls would be be plain wrong too. But we bundle the expectation of software controls with the value of the CC service in general.

My point is that as long as people can easily defeat the software control and people are complaining about it, a significant onus is on the caretakers to implement a fix. Just hoping the jackasses will stop being jackasses really isn't a solution no matter how warm and fuzzy it makes you feel by pointing out how plain wrong it is.

Then again if this isn't a big problem and people aren't complaining much, then the caretakers have an insignificant onus to resolve.
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Postby Dui on Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:40 pm

Funny. Don't see a reason to discuss this. I just put these 3 on ignore. Easy, isn't it? Whoever doesn't think this is acceptable shouldn't have to play with them, whoever does, well, whatever.
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Postby TheBro on Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:07 pm

So only 89%... Fuzzy was wrong. :roll:
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Postby The Fuzzy Pengui on Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:22 pm

TheBro wrote:So only 89%... Fuzzy was wrong. :roll:

actually it's in the 70ish%...someone was bound to say it, so i thought I should....

plus, not many people voted, compared to the amount of people that play, so it could be higher or lower....

but i was kinda close.....

our point was still proven....it's wrong to do...

:D :P 8) :wink:

Edit: Another vote for "Yes" while i was typing this message, so it's going in our favor even more :twisted:
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Postby TheBro on Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:48 pm

Oh yes I misread. Good call Pengui.
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Postby The Fuzzy Pengui on Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:00 pm

TheBro wrote:Oh yes I misread. Good call Pengui.

:P

by the way....4 more "yes" and 1 more "no"

it's going up more :D
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Postby Ditocoaf on Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:45 am

Yeah... it wasn't a bad thing I robbed the bank! It only shows how that bank should have had better security! Stop arresting me; you should be e-ticketing the bank, requesting that they upgrade!

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Postby firth4eva on Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:26 am

I personally find it hilarious. Especially when you are the final one in on doubles game and they all start blaming each other about giving the password to you. And you go on to make things worse by saying one of them did it and the others get really pissed off. And then the other team asks you to lose on purpose because you cheated your way in. One of the bes gaems I played on this site.

And it taught all of you a lesson of not having easy to guess passwords. Talk to the1exile. You will never ever guess one of his passwords. Serve you right really.
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Postby TheBro on Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:17 pm

Serves me right? We're killing them in Alexander's Empire. Karma. And this is not justice, this is a question on if it is right or wrong. You avoided the point.
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Postby firth4eva on Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:20 pm

TheBro wrote:Serves me right? We're killing them in Alexander's Empire. Karma. And this is not justice, this is a question on if it is right or wrong. You avoided the point.

Read between the lines asshat
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Postby Herakilla on Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:48 pm

Dancing Mustard wrote:
cleveridea wrote:There's a million shithead things you can do on CC that aren't violating the rules. This was just yet another one.

The software controls in place are lacking; and that was my point.
Lacking though they may be, that doesn't avoid the fact that Jamie (and anybody doing the same thing) is, as you so aptly put it, a Shithead.


So it's official kids, Jamie is a Shithead.
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Postby TheBro on Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:41 pm

:lol: You ramble on about a story where I suppose you and your buds did the same thing. Do you have a point, asshat?
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Postby firth4eva on Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:42 pm

TheBro wrote::lol: You ramble on about a story where I suppose you and your buds did the same thing. Do you have a point, asshat?

:roll: It was just me. I think it's perfectly fine to do it so long as I like you. But if I don't like you(e.g. Jamie), then I think you area a cunt for doing it.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:43 pm

Lets keep the flames out of the GD. :)


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Postby MOBAJOBG on Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:44 pm

Be civil and respectful here so that we can have a healthy and thriving community.
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