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Postby yorkiepeter on Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:44 pm

william18 wrote:Start claiming or we lose.


my thoughts exactly. I do think that if there is a cop then they will probably 4 scum to balance it out. No cop and maybe only 3 scum.

If we have a cop then you need to role claim now and give us your results. Yes you may get eaten tonight but if you don't the game could very well end here.

I'm not so sure on Iliad, if he were a noob then yes getting on all 4 bandwagons would be scummy, but he's not a noob and if he were scum I doubt he would make that mistake.

I still think that we should be looking for the quieter players who tend to get forgotten about. So therefore vote Phil

He was keen on lynching amazzony and now me, but apart from that he's hardly said a word
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Postby william18 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:45 pm

How do you know that he doesn't have any scum results?
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Postby ExplainThis on Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:47 pm

william18 wrote:How do you know that he doesn't have any scum results?


I don't. But if he has them he'd be claiming them anyway under what you asked for. That and he likely would have already claimed if he had a guilty, but w/e.
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Postby william18 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:47 pm

yorkiepeter wrote:
william18 wrote:Start claiming or we lose.


my thoughts exactly. I do think that if there is a cop then they will probably 4 scum to balance it out. No cop and maybe only 3 scum.

If we have a cop then you need to role claim now and give us your results. Yes you may get eaten tonight but if you don't the game could very well end here.

I'm not so sure on Iliad, if he were a noob then yes getting on all 4 bandwagons would be scummy, but he's not a noob and if he were scum I doubt he would make that mistake.

I still think that we should be looking for the quieter players who tend to get forgotten about. So therefore vote Phil

He was keen on lynching amazzony and now me, but apart from that he's hardly said a word


Why not vote Iliad? Im not liking what I see with ExplainThis and you Yorkie.
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Postby yorkiepeter on Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:48 pm

Even if he has no scum results we still need to know who the 2 townies are that he's investigated so at least it narrows down the choices for us.
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Postby william18 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:50 pm

yorkiepeter wrote:Even if he has no scum results we still need to know who the 2 townies are that he's investigated so at least it narrows down the choices for us.


The only thing that we need are scum results. Town results have now benifet for the town. What do you want to narrow down, who to kill at night three?
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Postby william18 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:53 pm

The only reason im not voting for you or explainThis is because im have a strong feeling that Ilaid is Godfather.
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Postby yorkiepeter on Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:58 pm

william18 wrote:
yorkiepeter wrote:Even if he has no scum results we still need to know who the 2 townies are that he's investigated so at least it narrows down the choices for us.


The only thing that we need are scum results. Town results have now benifet for the town. What do you want to narrow down, who to kill at night three?


Look one thing is for sure anybody who is scum knows who the townies are anyway.....

Let me put it simply. If there is a cop then we probably have 1 cop, 4 townies and 4 scum. If the cop says for example that et and phil are both town then we have to choose out of the other 6, 1 of 4 scum to lynch.

If on the other hand the cop keeps quiet then we have to chose 1 of 4 scum from 9....much more difficult.

I will assume that if a cop doesn't claim this weekend then there is no cop in this game in which case 4 scum would be too much and we have to chose 1 of 3 to lynch out of 9 and we will not be in LOYL
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Postby william18 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:03 pm

yorkiepeter wrote:
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yorkiepeter wrote:Even if he has no scum results we still need to know who the 2 townies are that he's investigated so at least it narrows down the choices for us.


The only thing that we need are scum results. Town results have now benifet for the town. What do you want to narrow down, who to kill at night three?


Look one thing is for sure anybody who is scum knows who the townies are anyway.....

Let me put it simply. If there is a cop then we probably have 1 cop, 4 townies and 4 scum. If the cop says for example that et and phil are both town then we have to choose out of the other 6, 1 of 4 scum to lynch.

If on the other hand the cop keeps quiet then we have to chose 1 of 4 scum from 9....much more difficult.

I will assume that if a cop doesn't claim this weekend then there is no cop in this game in which case 4 scum would be too much and we have to chose 1 of 3 to lynch out of 9 and we will not be in LOYL


Then why not vote Iliad? We may have a vig.
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Postby icedagger on Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:11 pm

Great now Yorkie's acting scummy too. The evidence overwhelmingly points to Iliad. ET's "I've got a feeling he's cop" seems "I'm his scum buddy but can't think of a good reason to say why I shouldn't vote for him". Which is odd because I really thought ET was town.

Case against Iliad- Tries to get no less than 4 town killed, KK who accused him is night killed. Also reading through the whole thread I was just getting scum vibes off him.
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Postby william18 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:14 pm

Lynch Iliad, Lynch Iliad, Lynch Iliad!



-3 for Iliad.
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Postby ExplainThis on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:01 pm

Yesterday the reason I hammered amazon (other then him not claiming) was that I thought Iliad was the cop. It explains why he pushed for me pre-claim but then ignored me the rest of day 1. Then day 2 came out in strong defense of me. Yesterday I was thinking he got a guilty on amazon and it made him think me town, but after his lynch I'm thinking he got an innocent on me, which made him think amazon was scum. As for town results being useless.... thats the most newb thing I've heard this game, and some pretty newb things have been said. Icedagger already explained why though.
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Postby william18 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:09 pm

ExplainThis wrote:Yesterday the reason I hammered amazon (other then him not claiming) was that I thought Iliad was the cop. It explains why he pushed for me pre-claim but then ignored me the rest of day 1. Then day 2 came out in strong defense of me. Yesterday I was thinking he got a guilty on amazon and it made him think me town, but after his lynch I'm thinking he got an innocent on me, which made him think amazon was scum. As for town results being useless.... thats the most newb thing I've heard this game, and some pretty newb things have been said. Icedagger already explained why though.


I never said they were useless, I said they were dangerous.
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Postby ExplainThis on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:11 pm

william18 wrote:
yorkiepeter wrote:Even if he has no scum results we still need to know who the 2 townies are that he's investigated so at least it narrows down the choices for us.


The only thing that we need are scum results. Town results have now benifet for the town. What do you want to narrow down, who to kill at night three?
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Postby william18 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:14 pm

ExplainThis wrote:
william18 wrote:
yorkiepeter wrote:Even if he has no scum results we still need to know who the 2 townies are that he's investigated so at least it narrows down the choices for us.


The only thing that we need are scum results. Town results have now benifet for the town. What do you want to narrow down, who to kill at night three?


exactly, they have no benifet for the town, but the mafia could easily use this new knowledge.
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Postby ExplainThis on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:17 pm

william18 wrote:
ExplainThis wrote:
william18 wrote:
yorkiepeter wrote:Even if he has no scum results we still need to know who the 2 townies are that he's investigated so at least it narrows down the choices for us.


The only thing that we need are scum results. Town results have now benifet for the town. What do you want to narrow down, who to kill at night three?


exactly, they have no benifet for the town, but the mafia could easily use this new knowledge.


Since Ice daggers explanation doesn't seem to be enough for you. If there is a cop and we lynch wrong its likely its game over. By getting known town out in the open we maximize our odds of lynching scum. On top of that me and the cop would get night killed well before the named townies anyway, so by not revealing them all we do is waste the chance to share knowledge the mafia already has.
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Postby william18 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:18 pm

If you don't vote Iliad then your gonna get FOSed by a lot of people.
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Postby ExplainThis on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:19 pm

william18 wrote:If you don't vote Iliad then your gonna get FOSed by a lot of people.


Don't make threats for other people, let them make them for themselves.
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Postby william18 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:19 pm

EBWOP, you fastposted me, hmm but what if we get it right?
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Postby ExplainThis on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:22 pm

william18 wrote:EBWOP, you fastposted me, hmm but what if we get it right?


Even if we lynch correctly if there are 4 scum now it will still be lynch or lose tomorrow. If the cop is revealing anything he should reveal everything, not doing so is asking for him to be killed and bring useful information to his grave.
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Postby icedagger on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:27 pm

Iliad if you are cop, now's the time to claim.

I'll unvote until Iliad says something.
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Postby william18 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:30 pm

icedagger wrote:Iliad if you are cop, now's the time to claim.

I'll unvote until Iliad says something.


same, unvote
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Postby yorkiepeter on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:31 pm

william18 wrote:
ExplainThis wrote:
william18 wrote:
yorkiepeter wrote:Even if he has no scum results we still need to know who the 2 townies are that he's investigated so at least it narrows down the choices for us.


The only thing that we need are scum results. Town results have now benifet for the town. What do you want to narrow down, who to kill at night three?


exactly, they have no benifet for the town, but the mafia could easily use this new knowledge.


How? don't you suppose that scum already know who town are. Considering they know each other anybody who is not a fellow scum is town.

Cop hasn't cleared anybody but surprise surprise the scum ate a townie both nights.

William has behaved so scummy over this. Would you prefer that the cop kept quiet while we lynched another townie? Yes I think you probably would.

vote william
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Postby william18 on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:36 pm

yorkiepeter wrote:
william18 wrote:
ExplainThis wrote:
william18 wrote:
yorkiepeter wrote:Even if he has no scum results we still need to know who the 2 townies are that he's investigated so at least it narrows down the choices for us.


The only thing that we need are scum results. Town results have now benifet for the town. What do you want to narrow down, who to kill at night three?


exactly, they have no benifet for the town, but the mafia could easily use this new knowledge.


How? don't you suppose that scum already know who town are. Considering they know each other anybody who is not a fellow scum is town.

Cop hasn't cleared anybody but surprise surprise the scum ate a townie both nights.

William has behaved so scummy over this. Would you prefer that the cop kept quiet while we lynched another townie? Yes I think you probably would.

vote william


Well if you havn't noticed, I tried to prevent the mafia to access valueable and dangerous info. Your the one acting scummy, refusing to vote Iliad based on your gut. Or is it more then just a gut feeling?
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Postby icedagger on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:38 pm

If Iliad claims cop, my vote will go on william assuming the claim's believable and william isn't cleared. I can see how me pushing for Iliad's lynch could be percieved as scummy, but I really believed he was mafia. However ET's idea makes alot of sense. Iliad was defending ET after night one, and ET certainly seemed the most likely investigation.
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