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LLC's, S Corps, Business Licenses

Postby bedub1 on Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:09 pm

Does anybody know anything about starting an LLC? I'm looking for info from people who have created one already, or who are professionals like a CPA or Tax Attorney.

Which tax structure should I file under? Do I have to get a business license for every state I do work or perform sales in?
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Postby Harijan on Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:32 pm

In order to answer your question we need a bit more information.

What state is your business going to located in?

What is the business (yes it does make a difference in how you organize)?
Which tax structure should I file under?

As a general rule, professional service businesses file as LLCs or LLPs
Wholesale trade businesses don't actually need a business license
Retail trade businesses file as either S-corps or C-corps

As far as federal tax implications go, as an S-corp or a C-corp you have to deal with double taxation. You get taxed once on the profits of the business and a second time on any distributions or payments the business makes to you.

The trade off for double taxation is a liability benefit. Owners of S and C corps cannot usually be sued for any wrongdoings done by the business.

There is a way around double taxation that is slightly risky as far as tax implications go. Essentially instead of taking payments or distributions from the company to yourself, the company loans you money that you must pay back to the company at some future time. Loans are not taxed for either the borrower, or the lender (the lender does have to pay taxes on any interest collected from the loan though. This is usually a very small taxable amount).

Sole proprietorships, LLCs and LLPs only have single taxation, but it is much easier to sue the owners of the company in case something goes wrong.

Do I have to get a business license for every state I do work or perform sales in?


No, only the state where your business is based.

My qualifications:
I have started 3 businesses, helped probably 10-15 other people start business. I work with lawyers and CPAs every day who deal with business start-up issues like this. I have an MBA from Babson College which is considered by wall street journal, Fortune Magazine, and U.S. News to be the best business entrepreneurship school in the world.
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Postby bedub1 on Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:34 pm

I currently live in Nevada.
I am moving to Washington.
I planned on setting up the LLC in Washington with my parents address as the main address for the LLC.

I will be purchasing product from Dell wholesale, without sales tax. I will be selling it to clients in Washington, and possibly Nevada before I move. Sounds like retail to me. I will also be installing the equipment, which is performing labor and a service.

I will either be a Sole Proprietership or an S corp. Both tax structures pass the income to me, and neither of the "structures" has to pay taxes. A c corp has to pay corporate taxes, so I won't do that.

So I'm thinking federal Tax ID that is free and works in any state. Getting a Washington State business license, trademarking the business name, obtaining a sales-tax exemption(or whatever it is), and then creating the LLC. I think that for nevada, if I want to sell product here before I move, that I have to get a Nevada sales-tax exemption here too. Do I also need a business license?

Thanks for the help,
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Postby wicked on Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:36 pm

bedub1 wrote:So I'm thinking federal Tax ID that is free and works in any state.


That part is right.
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Postby Harijan on Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:46 pm

you will need a business license for two reasons.

1. to pay taxes
2. to get insurance.

Your text is a bit confusing. You say you are going to start as an LLC, but then later say you are setting up as an S-corp. These are not the same thing.

Apologies, I mispoke when I said S-corps get double taxed, you are right, only C-corps get hit with double tax.

A good thing to do is check and see which state (washington or Nevada) is more favorable to small businesses. There are usually websites dedicated to such.

One business I helped organize was set up in Nevada, it was not a very business friendly state. I have no experience in washington.
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