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Dekloren wrote:John McCain's racist remark very troubling
Thursday, March 2, 2000
By KATIE HONG
On his campaign bus recently, Sen. John McCain told reporters, "I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live." Although McCain said he was referring only to his prison guards, there are many reasons why his use of the word "gook" is offensive and alarming.
It is offensive because by using a racial epithet that has historically been used to demean all Asians to describe his captors, McCain failed to make a distinction
http://www.VietnamVeteransAgainstJohnMcCain.com
That guy is a fucking pyscho path.
Frigidus wrote:Dekloren wrote:John McCain's racist remark very troubling
Thursday, March 2, 2000
By KATIE HONG
On his campaign bus recently, Sen. John McCain told reporters, "I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live." Although McCain said he was referring only to his prison guards, there are many reasons why his use of the word "gook" is offensive and alarming.
It is offensive because by using a racial epithet that has historically been used to demean all Asians to describe his captors, McCain failed to make a distinction
http://www.VietnamVeteransAgainstJohnMcCain.com
That guy is a fucking pyscho path.
Gook was one of the names used to describe the Vietnamese, much as they called Germans Jerry in WWII. Not convincing.
Snorri1234 wrote:Good to see you all are missing the entire point. Noone is saying McCain is a racist, they're just saying that he is ignorant of the meaning of the word in modern english. It makes him sort of stupid.
Groove, if your grandfather was president and referred to those damn japs, the japanese community would be very pissed off. Not everyone is as forgivable and understandable.
Frigidus wrote:Snorri1234 wrote:Good to see you all are missing the entire point. Noone is saying McCain is a racist, they're just saying that he is ignorant of the meaning of the word in modern english. It makes him sort of stupid.
Groove, if your grandfather was president and referred to those damn japs, the japanese community would be very pissed off. Not everyone is as forgivable and understandable.
So since he's not up to date on current racial slurs he's stupid?
Snorri1234 wrote:Frigidus wrote:Snorri1234 wrote:Good to see you all are missing the entire point. Noone is saying McCain is a racist, they're just saying that he is ignorant of the meaning of the word in modern english. It makes him sort of stupid.
Groove, if your grandfather was president and referred to those damn japs, the japanese community would be very pissed off. Not everyone is as forgivable and understandable.
So since he's not up to date on current racial slurs he's stupid?
Yes. Would you consider a president who kept referring to "those funny negroes" not stupid? He might consider it non-offending, and mean no harm with it, but it's still something that someone in his position should know.
comic boy wrote:I would have thought that freedom fighter would be a term better suited to the Vietnamese , it is after all their country.
Napoleon Ier wrote:comic boy wrote:I would have thought that freedom fighter would be a term better suited to the Vietnamese , it is after all their country.
Snorrarse: Yes, I love the US. Not in the same way I love my country, but I can honestly say that I believe that the American nation is unique, and frankly, despite the love I have for my country, say tha it is far and away the greates tnation on earth and the shining beacon of freedom (in the modern world, at least). Now, if loving a great Nation and friend of my Country like America is cause enough for snide, smug, arrogant European ingrates to dismiss me as a redneck-loving "stupid and extremely right wing person", then I don't know what to say, except suggest that they take a long, hard look at themselves....
Comicboy: Their country? What country? North Viet-Nam, South-Vietnam? Remember, the NVA was an invading army, and the NLF were NVA sponsored terrorists (by any definition of the word). And actually, your wrong : it's my country. Vive l'Indochine Française.
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DaGip wrote:Napoleon Ier wrote:comic boy wrote:I would have thought that freedom fighter would be a term better suited to the Vietnamese , it is after all their country.
Snorrarse: Yes, I love the US. Not in the same way I love my country, but I can honestly say that I believe that the American nation is unique, and frankly, despite the love I have for my country, say tha it is far and away the greates tnation on earth and the shining beacon of freedom (in the modern world, at least). Now, if loving a great Nation and friend of my Country like America is cause enough for snide, smug, arrogant European ingrates to dismiss me as a redneck-loving "stupid and extremely right wing person", then I don't know what to say, except suggest that they take a long, hard look at themselves....
Comicboy: Their country? What country? North Viet-Nam, South-Vietnam? Remember, the NVA was an invading army, and the NLF were NVA sponsored terrorists (by any definition of the word). And actually, your wrong : it's my country. Vive l'Indochine Française.
Hey! Don't forget Aussie! America/Britian/Aussie: Ameribritilia. Sounds good to me! And please don't get me wrong, I respect McCain and what he has done for our country during Vietnam, I just think he's got a screw loose from Hanoi and that would make him dangerous as the leader of the strongest military nation on the planet! McCain has been known to be a little bit of a loose cannon in the senate, that isn't what we need as President right now. Since Ron Paul isn't going to make it, then we need to decide who is going to make the best leader during WorldWar3. Because that is what is coming up, if we are not already into it. I am afraid McCain would fly off the handle, let his anger take over (DarthMcCain) and make bad judgements based on those emotions. Let's not forget that McCain is quite old as well. His choice in VP would need to be a strong one, one that would eminate as much leadership and youth as possible. Perhaps, McCain choosing Huckabee might change my mind. If he chose Ron Paul I would definitely vote McCain, but that would never in a million zillion years happen, since McCain has shown so much anomosity towards Paul.
McCain/Huckabee ticket might change my mind. Well worth reconsidering my stance. I thought last election was the most important election, but now I think this one is. Is this how it always feels during election time? That every election feels like the most important election of all time?
Napoleon Ier wrote:Snorrarse, how about we send you into an Indochinese internment camp where you are beaten daily and come out horrifically scarred psychologically and unable to life your arms above chest height, and see how you feel about the lovely innocent Viet-Namese peasants.
to describe their brutal, inhuman ennemy
He does not apply it to ordinary Americans of Asiatic descent.
Now if I'm honest, apart from the despicable use of this calomny against a courageous freedom fighter, a hero of the great war against Communism, who put his life on the line and gave blood, sweat and tears so that we could be free today,
the fact he openly refers to them as "gooks" shows his refusal to suck up to a pathetic PC system,
Napoleon Ier wrote:Viet-Nam was about exactly that. There's a little incident, that occured, oh, for a length of time really, between, ooh...roughly 1945 (we'll say it started during the Potsdam conference) and went on 'til about 1989 or '91. Read up on it, it's mighty interesting...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War
As for the rest of your post, fine, you rate presidential candidates based on the latent racism they may exhibit due to having been tortured by people who happen to be of a certain racial group for 5 years in service of their country,
Napoleon Ier wrote:DaGip wrote:Napoleon Ier wrote:comic boy wrote:I would have thought that freedom fighter would be a term better suited to the Vietnamese , it is after all their country.
Snorrarse: Yes, I love the US. Not in the same way I love my country, but I can honestly say that I believe that the American nation is unique, and frankly, despite the love I have for my country, say tha it is far and away the greates tnation on earth and the shining beacon of freedom (in the modern world, at least). Now, if loving a great Nation and friend of my Country like America is cause enough for snide, smug, arrogant European ingrates to dismiss me as a redneck-loving "stupid and extremely right wing person", then I don't know what to say, except suggest that they take a long, hard look at themselves....
Comicboy: Their country? What country? North Viet-Nam, South-Vietnam? Remember, the NVA was an invading army, and the NLF were NVA sponsored terrorists (by any definition of the word). And actually, your wrong : it's my country. Vive l'Indochine Française.
Hey! Don't forget Aussie! America/Britian/Aussie: Ameribritilia. Sounds good to me! And please don't get me wrong, I respect McCain and what he has done for our country during Vietnam, I just think he's got a screw loose from Hanoi and that would make him dangerous as the leader of the strongest military nation on the planet! McCain has been known to be a little bit of a loose cannon in the senate, that isn't what we need as President right now. Since Ron Paul isn't going to make it, then we need to decide who is going to make the best leader during WorldWar3. Because that is what is coming up, if we are not already into it. I am afraid McCain would fly off the handle, let his anger take over (DarthMcCain) and make bad judgements based on those emotions. Let's not forget that McCain is quite old as well. His choice in VP would need to be a strong one, one that would eminate as much leadership and youth as possible. Perhaps, McCain choosing Huckabee might change my mind. If he chose Ron Paul I would definitely vote McCain, but that would never in a million zillion years happen, since McCain has shown so much anomosity towards Paul.
McCain/Huckabee ticket might change my mind. Well worth reconsidering my stance. I thought last election was the most important election, but now I think this one is. Is this how it always feels during election time? That every election feels like the most important election of all time?
Yeah, I see where you're coming from, but thankfully, enough checks and balances exist that I think McCain is a perfectly safe and sensible choice. In comparison, if you look at Obama's policies, you want to cry. He barely proposes any, half the time he's just blathering about "America needs change", and when he does, they're horrifyind, and completely detatched from reality.
give universal employee healthcare provided by "managed competition" (=state control), and oh brilliant, "promote American competitivity using trade protection", the first step of which will be...yay!! renege on CAFTA.Napoleon Ier wrote: He wants to double capital gains tax (on the cusp of a recession),
Napoleon Ier wrote:give universal employee healthcare provided by "managed competition" (=state control),
Napoleon Ier wrote: and oh brilliant, "promote American competitivity using trade protection", the first step of which will be...yay!! renege on CAFTA.
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DaGip wrote:Napoleon Ier wrote:give universal employee healthcare provided by "managed competition" (=state control),
Universal healthcare has been batted around for a long time. The flaw here is that only a select few health insurance companies would be let in, and therefore make an incredible sum of money off of the American people who would be forced to pay them for coverage.
America's last chance at preserving its Republican/Libertarian roots rested with Ron Paul. Now that he is out, America will have to become more socialist. And with the advent of more war, America will have to become more nationalistic to maintain their morale. NationalSocialism...what does that spell? This is the new brand of Communism under the veil of freedom and democracy.
Snorri1234 wrote:DaGip wrote:Napoleon Ier wrote:give universal employee healthcare provided by "managed competition" (=state control),
Universal healthcare has been batted around for a long time. The flaw here is that only a select few health insurance companies would be let in, and therefore make an incredible sum of money off of the American people who would be forced to pay them for coverage.
Instead of the many insurance companies who now make an incredible sum of money off the backs of the american people, ofcourse.
I mean, you do realise that every other country in the world has cheaper healthcare?America's last chance at preserving its Republican/Libertarian roots rested with Ron Paul. Now that he is out, America will have to become more socialist. And with the advent of more war, America will have to become more nationalistic to maintain their morale. NationalSocialism...what does that spell? This is the new brand of Communism under the veil of freedom and democracy.
Lol the USA is becoming nazi-germany?
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DaGip wrote:Snorri1234 wrote:DaGip wrote:Napoleon Ier wrote:give universal employee healthcare provided by "managed competition" (=state control),
Universal healthcare has been batted around for a long time. The flaw here is that only a select few health insurance companies would be let in, and therefore make an incredible sum of money off of the American people who would be forced to pay them for coverage.
Instead of the many insurance companies who now make an incredible sum of money off the backs of the american people, ofcourse.
I mean, you do realise that every other country in the world has cheaper healthcare?America's last chance at preserving its Republican/Libertarian roots rested with Ron Paul. Now that he is out, America will have to become more socialist. And with the advent of more war, America will have to become more nationalistic to maintain their morale. NationalSocialism...what does that spell? This is the new brand of Communism under the veil of freedom and democracy.
Lol the USA is becoming nazi-germany?
well, NaziCooperateFascists, yes...NaziGermany, no.
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