I'm NOT a Yank!

[muy_thaiguy]

Kind of says how nice the people are over there, you know?

you have to be tough to cut it out here.

Or, just avoid the alley ways and such as much as possible. Yet, a friend of mine who went to NYC for a visit, was very nearly mugged, had it not been for his father figure/friend (also happens to be his sensei) who also comes form here, and the muggers ran off leaving my friend a bit startled and his sensei glaring at them. Kind of tells you what to expect. Though, neither of them were wearing their Gis, though my friend was wearing his cowboy hat.

[reminisco]

Though, neither of them were wearing their Gis, though my friend was wearing his cowboy hat.

yeah, i took 8 years of Issinryu... i know what's up...

and regarding the cowboy hat... that's actually a good tip for traveling abroad. in most 3rd world countries, people assume that US citizens wearing cowboy hats are armed, a la Clint Eastwood and John Wayne movies...

whereas here in the States (in the Northeast anyway) you see a guy wearing a cowboy hat, you don't assume he's armed, you assume he's brokeback mountain...

at least, that's the way it's been going the last few years... i'm sure things are different in Colorado.

[muy_thaiguy]

Though, neither of them were wearing their Gis, though my friend was wearing his cowboy hat.

yeah, i took 8 years of Issinryu... i know what's up...

and regarding the cowboy hat... that's actually a good tip for traveling abroad. in most 3rd world countries, people assume that US citizens wearing cowboy hats are armed, a la Clint Eastwood and John Wayne movies...

whereas here in the States (in the Northeast anyway) you see a guy wearing a cowboy hat, you don't assume he's armed, you assume he's brokeback mountain...

at least, that's the way it's been going the last few years... i'm sure things are different in Colorado.

Yeah, you know, that whole "Brokeback: crap thing came from a woman who stayed out on a classmate's (of mine) ranch property for awhile (rented, and she came from the East somewhere) and made up the story after seeing one guy nod to another in a bar.

Oh, and pretty much anyone from out West is most likely armed, mainly carrying around a pocket knife or 3 (no, I'm not bluffing you), which is quite common out here.

[Frigidus]

Though, neither of them were wearing their Gis, though my friend was wearing his cowboy hat.

yeah, i took 8 years of Issinryu... i know what's up...

and regarding the cowboy hat... that's actually a good tip for traveling abroad. in most 3rd world countries, people assume that US citizens wearing cowboy hats are armed, a la Clint Eastwood and John Wayne movies...

whereas here in the States (in the Northeast anyway) you see a guy wearing a cowboy hat, you don't assume he's armed, you assume he's brokeback mountain...

at least, that's the way it's been going the last few years... i'm sure things are different in Colorado.

Yeah, you know, that whole "Brokeback: crap thing came from a woman who stayed out on a classmate's (of mine) ranch property for awhile (rented, and she came from the East somewhere) and made up the story after seeing one guy nod to another in a bar.

Oh, and pretty much anyone from out West is most likely armed, mainly carrying around a pocket knife or 3 (no, I'm not bluffing you), which is quite common out here.

Terrifying. That said, the cowboy hat thing seems useful. Thanks for the tip.

[F1fth]

Being called a Yank by the Brits has always been endearing for me. I never read to far into it, and generally, nobody means harm with the word, so I don't think it really matters.

To foreigners, a Yankee is an American.
To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner.
To Northerners, a Yankee is an Easterner.
To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander.
To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter.
And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.

Anyway, given that the demonym for our people is "Americans," I think you can cut them a little slack for calling the place "America." It's not necessarily because they're full of themselves, it's just because it's easier and everybody knows what they're talking about when they say America (even though I always call it "the U.S." But, I'm a perfectionist like that).

[muy_thaiguy]

Being called a Yank by the Brits has always been endearing for me. I never read to far into it, and generally, nobody means harm with the word, so I don't think it really matters.

To foreigners, a Yankee is an American.
To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner.
To Northerners, a Yankee is an Easterner.
To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander.
To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter.
And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.

Anyway, given that the demonym for our people is "Americans," I think you can cut them a little slack for calling the place "America." It's not necessarily because they're full of themselves, it's just because it's easier and everybody knows what they're talking about when they say America (even though I always call it "the U.S." But, I'm a perfectionist like that).

Well, it is easier just to call ourselves Americans. If Canadians, Mexicans, Brazilians, etc want to, they can. But, I really have never heard any of them call themselves such, but I really don't care. If I'm not mistaken though, I though many people from Europe and other places called everyone "Yankees" that live in North America.

[Jenos Ridan]

I am an American citizen. That term might have worked back in the 1700s, but now it only works for the New England states! So could you guys find something a bit newer? Or am I going to have to start calling you guys lobster backs and the likes? Also, I've never been to the East coast, much less to the Mississippi! That's like calling all of you British folks English. And knowing how the Scots, Whelsh, and Irish feel about that, you get the idea.

We will call you it until the Americans realise we dont speak like we are from 1800 or in Mary Poppins. NO ONE IN ENGLAND SPEAK LIKE THAT ANYMORE.

Let me make this clear: Yankees are New Englanders, period. I don't call Welsh, Scots and Irish English, I call the former two British and only Englishmen do I call English. Saavy? Now, get this through your skull; learn to refer to Americans either as simple Americans or in accordance with the region of their inhabitance or expect the return of Limey, Lobster Back, Redcoat, Saxon and such like.

[Balsiefen]

Incidently, Yankees is not slang for a new englander or whatever, but for dutchmen. So really, any use of the word except referring to a dutch immigrent fighting for the north in the american civil war is incorrect.

And i personally wouldn't mind redcoat or saxon anyway.

[muy_thaiguy]

Incidently, Yankees is not slang for a new englander or whatever, but for dutchmen. So really, any use of the word except referring to a dutch immigrent fighting for the north in the american civil war is incorrect.

And i personally wouldn't mind redcoat or saxon anyway.

Then tell that to the rest of Europe, lobsterback.

[Jenos Ridan]

Incidently, Yankees is not slang for a new englander or whatever, but for dutchmen. So really, any use of the word except referring to a dutch immigrent fighting for the north in the american civil war is incorrect.

And i personally wouldn't mind redcoat or saxon anyway.

Then tell that to the rest of Europe, lobsterback.

Specifically, the Frogs (French) and Krauts (Germans, wait I am one ).

[fumandomuerte]

Calling the U.S. Citizens "Americans" is not correct since the continental fact (I live in the american continent too).
Calling the U.S. Citizens "North Americans" is not correct since the ecuatorial fact (I live in the same side of the continent).
Calling the U.S. Citizens Yankees seems to be offensive for some of them, than how should we call you people?.
"Gringo" ("Green Go") for the memory of Vietnam? Nah, it's even more offensive.

Well, I guess we're gonna deal with this the whooooole life.
You people are very ingenious in a lot of fields, than you can find out a suitable term for your citizens.

Anyway, I don't care about where people come from, what's their skin color or what god they believe or don't in.

Live and let live.

[muy_thaiguy]

Calling the U.S. Citizens "Americans" is not correct since the continental fact (I live in the american continent too).
Calling the U.S. Citizens "North Americans" is not correct since the ecuatorial fact (I live in the same side of the continent).
Calling the U.S. Citizens Yankees seems to be offensive for some of them, than how should we call you people?.
"Gringo" ("Green Go") for the memory of Vietnam? Nah, it's even more offensive.

Well, I guess we're gonna deal with this the whooooole life.
You people are very ingenious in a lot of fields, than you can find out a suitable term for your citizens.

Anyway, I don't care about where people come from, what's their skin color or what god they believe or don't in.

Live and let live.

Like I said, I don't care if people South of the US or people in Canada call themselves American, but how often do you guys even do that anyways? And since we are part of the North American Continent, I don't see how that should be an issue in the first place.

[reminisco]

Incidently, Yankees is not slang for a new englander or whatever, but for dutchmen. So really, any use of the word except referring to a dutch immigrent fighting for the north in the american civil war is incorrect.

And i personally wouldn't mind redcoat or saxon anyway.

where are you getting that from?

i had learned that Yankee was derived from the way the Native Americans pronounced Anglais through French influence -- as Yangeese... it became Yankees as anglicized during the French and Indian War.

[Snowpepsi]

To Quote Lee Greenwood

I’m proud to be an American where at least I know I’m free.
And I won’t forget the men who died, who gave that right to me.
And I’d gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land God bless the U.S.A.

[btownmeggy]

Calling the U.S. Citizens "Americans" is not correct since the continental fact (I live in the american continent too).
Calling the U.S. Citizens "North Americans" is not correct since the ecuatorial fact (I live in the same side of the continent).
Calling the U.S. Citizens Yankees seems to be offensive for some of them, than how should we call you people?.
"Gringo" ("Green Go") for the memory of Vietnam? Nah, it's even more offensive.

Well, I guess we're gonna deal with this the whooooole life.
You people are very ingenious in a lot of fields, than you can find out a suitable term for your citizens.

Anyway, I don't care about where people come from, what's their skin color or what god they believe or don't in.

Live and let live.

Like I said, I don't care if people South of the US or people in Canada call themselves American, but how often do you guys even do that anyways? And since we are part of the North American Continent, I don't see how that should be an issue in the first place.

In Latin America, the word "americano" is frequently used to distinguish people from the Americas from, usually, Europeans.

Spanish and Portuguese are nice in that they actually have a word for United-Statesian, estadounidense, but I'll admit the word is uncommonly used. Mostly people say norteamericano, which of course, offers some technical problems. Norteamericano never means Mexican, but rather U.S. American and Canadian... which I guess just feeds back into my old hypothesis that the U.S. and Canada are *practically* the same country.

[muy_thaiguy]

Calling the U.S. Citizens "Americans" is not correct since the continental fact (I live in the american continent too).
Calling the U.S. Citizens "North Americans" is not correct since the ecuatorial fact (I live in the same side of the continent).
Calling the U.S. Citizens Yankees seems to be offensive for some of them, than how should we call you people?.
"Gringo" ("Green Go") for the memory of Vietnam? Nah, it's even more offensive.

Well, I guess we're gonna deal with this the whooooole life.
You people are very ingenious in a lot of fields, than you can find out a suitable term for your citizens.

Anyway, I don't care about where people come from, what's their skin color or what god they believe or don't in.

Live and let live.

Like I said, I don't care if people South of the US or people in Canada call themselves American, but how often do you guys even do that anyways? And since we are part of the North American Continent, I don't see how that should be an issue in the first place.

In Latin America, the word "americano" is frequently used to distinguish people from the Americas from, usually, Europeans.

Spanish and Portuguese are nice in that they actually have a word for United-Statesian, estadounidense, but I'll admit the word is uncommonly used. Mostly people say norteamericano, which of course, offers some technical problems. Norteamericano never means Mexican, but rather U.S. American and Canadian... which I guess just feeds back into my old hypothesis that the U.S. and Canada are *practically* the same country.

Which may just bring up an old thread, yes?

[btownmeggy]

Which may just bring up an old thread, yes?

Well, if you insist...
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 39&start=0

[Balsiefen]

Incidently, Yankees is not slang for a new englander or whatever, but for dutchmen. So really, any use of the word except referring to a dutch immigrent fighting for the north in the american civil war is incorrect.

And i personally wouldn't mind redcoat or saxon anyway.

where are you getting that from?

i had learned that Yankee was derived from the way the Native Americans pronounced Anglais through French influence -- as Yangeese... it became Yankees as anglicized during the French and Indian War.

Interesting, I learnt it as a corruption from the civil war used by confederates. Many of the fighters from the north were dutch so calling them Yan Kees (John Cheese) was a bit like calling Germans Gerrys and the Brittish Tommies in WWII

[reminisco]

where are you getting that from?

i had learned that Yankee was derived from the way the Native Americans pronounced Anglais through French influence -- as Yangeese... it became Yankees as anglicized during the French and Indian War.

Interesting, I learnt it as a corruption from the civil war used by confederates. Many of the fighters from the north were dutch so calling them Yan Kees (John Cheese) was a bit like calling Germans Gerrys and the Brittish Tommies in WWII

interesting. i'd be curious to know your source...

the only thing that raises serious doubt in my mind as to the etymology you posit is the song "Yankee Doodle Dandy" pre-dating the US Civil War by at least 70 years.

[Balsiefen]

Some history program or other, you're proberbly right.

Interesting though, if you give historians one simple question, you will always get a good few more answers. What makes it so interesting i suppose.

[RedBullNation]

i guess what we can gather from this is that u tend to think u dont have an accent. this is obviously bullsh*t. either way, the americans dont all speak like 15% of brits think and visa versa

How exactly do brits think we speak?
"howdy, y'all gemme a bud laht frumda frige an turn on da NASCAR."

Or "nucular"

Is that it?

[Snorri1234]

Citizens of the United States of America are properly referred to as "Americans" and that is what we should take pride in first.

Someone earlier said that America was two continents so we shouldn't be called that. Should we ONLY refer to English citizens as Europeans then? Of course not and I doubt they would prefer that.

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I think referring to English citizens as europeans is sort off the same thing as you calling yourself americans...

You know, with europe and n-america being continents and all that....

No! We don't call ourselves North Americans . . just Americans. So it's not the same thing.

But it is.... You're referring to the continent (or two) instead of the country.

[Frigidus]

Citizens of the United States of America are properly referred to as "Americans" and that is what we should take pride in first.

Someone earlier said that America was two continents so we shouldn't be called that. Should we ONLY refer to English citizens as Europeans then? Of course not and I doubt they would prefer that.

....


I think referring to English citizens as europeans is sort off the same thing as you calling yourself americans...

You know, with europe and n-america being continents and all that....

No! We don't call ourselves North Americans . . just Americans. So it's not the same thing.

But it is.... You're referring to the continent (or two) instead of the country.

Once again I bring up the point that we don't really have any other options for our name. Calling ourselves yanks would be like...well, I don't know, a British person saying "I'm a Limey citizen". It just doesn't fit. We're stuck with American, no help for it.

[PhatJoey]

Love the avatar, Joey

Is that Parris Island or San Diego?

San Diego! With my son graduating from the same place I went through boot camp 30 years ago. Could not be prouder!

[PhatJoey]

Can't be "Uniteds" because that makes us sound like fans of some English Football team. Can't be "State-anythings" because we cannot lay sole claim to that title either (Did you know the official name of Mexico is the United Mexican States? I didn't.)

And everyone else complains when we use "Americans".

I guess they'll just have to get over it.