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Postby Guiscard on Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:50 pm

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sam_levi_11 wrote:this is true, but why do americans think we speak like that


The only real exposure to the british most of them have are Hugh Grant and a couple of others?


Helen Mirram.
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:51 pm

Guiscard wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
sam_levi_11 wrote:this is true, but why do americans think we speak like that


The only real exposure to the british most of them have are Hugh Grant and a couple of others?


Helen Mirram.


mirren...
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Postby btownmeggy on Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:54 pm

Even if you speak very plainly and clearly and without any regional "dialect", you still have an accent. If you think you don't have an accent, it's probably one called Standard British English, or General Received Pronunciation. Likewise, people in the US who think they "don't have an accent" probably speak something similar to General American, aka Standard American English.
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Postby Guiscard on Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:56 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:
Guiscard wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
sam_levi_11 wrote:this is true, but why do americans think we speak like that


The only real exposure to the british most of them have are Hugh Grant and a couple of others?


Helen Mirram.


mirren...


Oops... Although google Helen Mirram and you get a rather interesting picture... Can anyone see the one I mean?
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:59 pm

the man dressed up as a p*ssy?
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Postby Skittles! on Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:02 pm

I can safely say that Yanks are pussy's. :lol:
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:06 pm

Skittles! wrote:I can safely say that Yanks are pussy's. :lol:
If by that you mean those in New England, then I guess so. Haven't met to many of them though.

So, what snorri said is that instead of one stereotype of British (the whole "pip pip" thing) it's instead the tavern-tough type of thing (Oy, oo o'er thar, get yer arse ova 'ere sos I's can beat ya to a bloo'ey pulp!).
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Postby Snorri1234 on Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:09 pm

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Skittles! wrote:I can safely say that Yanks are pussy's. :lol:
If by that you mean those in New England, then I guess so. Haven't met to many of them though.

So, what snorri said is that instead of one stereotype of British (the whole "pip pip" thing) it's instead the tavern-tough type of thing (Oy, oo o'er thar, get yer arse ova 'ere sos I's can beat ya to a bloo'ey pulp!).


Well ofcourse there are more types, but at least that one actually has a bit of truth to it.
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Postby Dancing Mustard on Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:36 pm

I can assure you that both of those British stereotypes actually exist in staggeringly large quantities, though seldom in the same place. If you're prepared to move between the various regions of the United Kingdom then you will find multiple disturbingly accurate real-life portrayals of both of those two characters. They are very very real.
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Postby Snorri1234 on Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:42 pm

Dancing Mustard wrote:I can assure you that both of those British stereotypes actually exist in staggeringly large quantities, though seldom in the same place. If you're prepared to move between the various regions of the United Kingdom then you will find multiple disturbingly accurate real-life portrayals of both of those two characters. They are very very real.


Really? I've been in the UK quite a few times, but never encountered the former. Though I suppose I missed a great deal of England and Wales.
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Postby Napoleon Ier on Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:42 pm

Dancing Mustard wrote:I can assure you that both of those British stereotypes actually exist in staggeringly large quantities, though seldom in the same place. If you're prepared to move between the various regions of the United Kingdom then you will find multiple disturbingly accurate real-life portrayals of both of those two characters. They are very very real.


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Postby Dancing Mustard on Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:50 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:Really? I've been in the UK quite a few times, but never encountered the former. Though I suppose I missed a great deal of England and Wales.
Speaking purely from my own experience: Bath, Oxfordshire and Hampshire (the countryside bits of it at any rate) are both completely awash with the 'pip-pip' brigade, and Hampshire's ports (Southampton and Portsmouth), the East-End of London, Manchester, Birmingham and Leeds are all infested with the "I'll fooking av ya" hooligan types.

Well, either that or I need to find myself a more up to date copy of the Good Pub Guide.
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Postby The1exile on Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:56 pm

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Re: I'm NOT a Yank!

Postby brooksieb on Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:00 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:I am an American citizen. That term might have worked back in the 1700s, but now it only works for the New England states! So could you guys find something a bit newer? Or am I going to have to start calling you guys lobster backs and the likes? Also, I've never been to the East coast, much less to the Mississippi! That's like calling all of you British folks English. And knowing how the Scots, Whelsh, and Irish feel about that, you get the idea.


we will call u it until the americans realise we dont speak like are from 1800 or in mary poppins. NO ONE IN ENGLAND SPEAK LIKE THAT ANYMORE.


apart from the royal family, where we get our stereotype from
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Postby Minister Masket on Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:11 pm

Did I start this? Honestly mui, it's all fun and sport old bean!
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Postby Guiscard on Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:13 pm

Dancing Mustard wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:Really? I've been in the UK quite a few times, but never encountered the former. Though I suppose I missed a great deal of England and Wales.
Speaking purely from my own experience: Bath, Oxfordshire and Hampshire (the countryside bits of it at any rate) are both completely awash with the 'pip-pip' brigade, and Hampshire's ports (Southampton and Portsmouth), the East-End of London, Manchester, Birmingham and Leeds are all infested with the "I'll fooking av ya" hooligan types.

Well, either that or I need to find myself a more up to date copy of the Good Pub Guide.


University campuses are awash with Pip-Pip's also. I believe the current term is 'rahs' or 'yahs'. So you can get a good cross section up in Leeds if you want...
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Postby Grooveman2007 on Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:40 pm

To the world all americans are yanks, to southerners northerners are yanks (damnyankees in the deep south). In the North, New Englanders are yanks, while in New England people from New Hampshire are yanks. In New Hampshire, it's people from Vermont, and in Vermont, it's people specifically from Montpellier. So, those in Montpellier are the purest of yanks.
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Re: I'm NOT a Yank!

Postby johnnyrotten on Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:55 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:I am an American citizen. That term might have worked back in the 1700s, but now it only works for the New England states! So could you guys find something a bit newer? Or am I going to have to start calling you guys lobster backs and the likes? Also, I've never been to the East coast, much less to the Mississippi! That's like calling all of you British folks English. And knowing how the Scots, Whelsh, and Irish feel about that, you get the idea.

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Postby Frigidus on Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:08 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:well just imagione the most accentless person in the world and thats the accent a lot of england has

the exeption being scousers, mancunians, brummies, neys and anyone from norwich


I think that least accent in the world can be found a bit West of Illinois...the Great Plains simply have no noticeable accent.
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Postby Risktaker17 on Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:09 pm

No one where I live in on the east coast of US has any accent. I guess we sound American...
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Postby Snorri1234 on Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:11 pm

Frigidus wrote:
sam_levi_11 wrote:well just imagione the most accentless person in the world and thats the accent a lot of england has

the exeption being scousers, mancunians, brummies, neys and anyone from norwich


I think that least accent in the world can be found a bit West of Illinois...the Great Plains simply have no noticeable accent.


Actually, my province doesn't have a noticeable accent either, unless you count being obnoxiously loud an accent.

Too bad when we speak english it sound like butchering kittens...
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Postby sam_levi_11 on Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:14 pm

i guess what we can gather from this is that u tend to think u dont have an accent. this is obviously bullsh*t. either way, the americans dont all speak like 15% of brits think and visa versa
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Postby sully800 on Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:18 pm

Frigidus wrote:
sam_levi_11 wrote:well just imagione the most accentless person in the world and thats the accent a lot of england has

the exeption being scousers, mancunians, brummies, neys and anyone from norwich


I think that least accent in the world can be found a bit West of Illinois...the Great Plains simply have no noticeable accent.


I refer you to btownmeggy's earlier post. The concept of speaking without an accent is ridiculous. An accent is just the way a group of people say certain words. So if everyone from the Great Plains speaks in a similar manner, and its different from other accents, than it is an accent as well.

I'm sure that your concept of a person without an accent is different from sam_levi's definition of an accentless person. Thereby proving that they are both actually accents.
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Postby Snorri1234 on Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:30 pm

sam_levi_11 wrote:i guess what we can gather from this is that u tend to think u dont have an accent.


Yeah I think this is kind of the problem. I never considered myself to have an accent either, untill I realised that is only because I am used to it. Sure it's not as thick as some of the more isolated places, but there is still quite a trace there.
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:07 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:
sam_levi_11 wrote:i guess what we can gather from this is that u tend to think u dont have an accent.


Yeah I think this is kind of the problem. I never considered myself to have an accent either, untill I realised that is only because I am used to it. Sure it's not as thick as some of the more isolated places, but there is still quite a trace there.
Everyone does have an accent, it just varies from region to region. Look at Texas, the people from there seem to have a combination of Southern and Western accents, though the 2 are similar, there are noticeable differences as well.
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