Just Give Up Hope

[DaGip]

Just give up hope like me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiiaBqwqkXs

[DaGip]

Here is another by the same guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu0Oaw9tIPM&NR=1

[lalaland]

Is anybody doing anything about it?

[DaGip]

Here is another by the same guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu0Oaw9tIPM&NR=1

Sorry, this is not by the same guy...this is a Ron Paul supporter, but he is trying to show that ROn Paul got dissed in this election...here is another vid by this same guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8xgWjFe1cE

[DaGip]

Is anybody doing anything about it?

Why? When you can make whoever win, win, why would you want to change it?

I believe Stalin had it said right...the voters don't matter, it's the people who count the votes!

[Snorri1234]

I'm sure Ron Paul actually would win in the upcoming election, but the NWO is just going to ignore it and fix the election.

I also believe there is a leprachaun who visits me every night and steals my socks. And that the KJV bible holds the ultimate truth and when it contradicts the hebrew version it's clear the hewbrew version is wrong.

[OnlyAmbrose]

If you really believe that our elections are fixed I am ashamed that you aren't starting an armed revolution.

As for me, I think that's a load of bunk... Ron Paul's chances are fine, and the reason they aren't as good as the other Republican's isn't because the voting system is rigged against him, it's because he has some revolutionary ideas which won't be swallowed by the mainstream Republican party.

If it has ANYTHING to do with a "conspiracy theory" (and I use the term loosely), then you should be ranting about how the mass media hates him, most specifically Fox. But that's as far as it goes.

If it goes further, grab the twelve gauge and head to the local bar to rally some support.

[DaGip]

:roll:

If you really believe that our elections are fixed I am ashamed that you aren't starting an armed revolution.

As for me, I think that's a load of bunk... Ron Paul's chances are fine, and the reason they aren't as good as the other Republican's isn't because the voting system is rigged against him, it's because he has some revolutionary ideas which won't be swallowed by the mainstream Republican party.

If it has ANYTHING to do with a "conspiracy theory" (and I use the term loosely), then you should be ranting about how the mass media hates him, most specifically Fox. But that's as far as it goes.

If it goes further, grab the twelve gauge and head to the local bar to rally some support.

Screw that, I don't support Ron Paul anymore, so I am glad he got cheated. I am perfectly fine with rigged election ballots. I am just going with the flow like the majority of you. Thusly the name of this thread...I gave up all hope, so I am just accepting it. I am gonna accept World War Three and the war with Iran, Russia, China, Africa. I am supporting chip implants, super highways, and the North American Union. I have become a devout atheist/communist in my thinking, and I hope all the 9-11 Truthers get put into concetration camps. Good riddance!

Government is the only truth...there is no other. Bush is God! Accept it!

[Dancing Mustard]

Screw that, I don't support Ron Paul anymore, so I am glad he got cheated. I am perfectly fine with rigged election ballots. I am just going with the flow like the majority of you. Thusly the name of this thread...I gave up all hope, so I am just accepting it. I am gonna accept World War Three and the war with Iran, Russia, China, Africa. I am supporting chip implants, super highways, and the North American Union. I have become a devout atheist/communist in my thinking, and I hope all the 9-11 Truthers get put into concetration camps. Good riddance!

Government is the only truth...there is no other. Bush is God! Accept it!

*Talks into walkie-talkie*

Come in Overlord, come in Overlord.
Subject 4 has cracked... move to phase 2 of operation 'mentally break the truthers'.

[OnlyAmbrose]

Screw that, I don't support Ron Paul anymore, so I am glad he got cheated. I am perfectly fine with rigged election ballots. I am just going with the flow like the majority of you. Thusly the name of this thread...I gave up all hope, so I am just accepting it. I am gonna accept World War Three and the war with Iran, Russia, China, Africa. I am supporting chip implants, super highways, and the North American Union. I have become a devout atheist/communist in my thinking, and I hope all the 9-11 Truthers get put into concetration camps. Good riddance!

Government is the only truth...there is no other. Bush is God! Accept it!

*Talks into walkie-talkie*

Come in Overlord, come in Overlord.
Subject 4 has cracked... move to phase 2 of operation 'mentally break the truthers'.

[jay_a2j]

The elections are obviously rigged (and I couldn't get any of the links to work), there is no, what we in law enforcement call "chain of custody". We vote, someone counts or some corporation counts via computers and how do we know the count is correct? Recounts? If you rig the count WHY WOULD YOU NOT rig the re-count? The press in Italy has stated election fraud is going on in the US! Polls are another issue and are easily manipulated. I have NEVER received a phone call asking me who I was voting for and I have been a registered Republican for over 15 years. Then the phone polls are set up to favor certain candidates:


"Hello: Press 1 if you intend to vote for Rudy Guliani
Press 2 for Mike Huckabee
Press 3 for Mitt Romney
Press 4 for John McCain
Press 5 for Fred Thompson
Press 6 for any other candidate"


Yeah....fair poll there.



But NEVER give up hope! These things must happen but Christ WILL prevail!

[heavycola]

The elections are obviously rigged (and I couldn't get any of the links to work), there is no, what we in law enforcement call "chain of custody". We vote, someone counts or some corporation counts via computers and how do we know the count is correct? Recounts? If you rig the count WHY WOULD YOU NOT rig the re-count? The press in Italy has stated election fraud is going on in the US! Polls are another issue and are easily manipulated. I have NEVER received a phone call asking me who I was voting for and I have been a registered Republican for over 15 years. Then the phone polls are set up to favor certain candidates:


"Hello: Press 1 if you intend to vote for Rudy Guliani
Press 2 for Mike Huckabee
Press 3 for Mitt Romney
Press 4 for John McCain
Press 5 for Fred Thompson
Press 6 for any other candidate"


Yeah....fair poll there.



But NEVER give up hope! These things must happen but Christ WILL prevail!

er, surely you mean ron paul will prevail?

Why trust the italian press of all people?

[jay_a2j]

er, surely you mean ron paul will prevail?

Are you kidding? Paul doesn't stand a chance as long as election fraud is going on..... and it will go on.

[Dancing Mustard]

The elections are obviously rigged

Well I'm convinced...

Evidence? What's that?

there is no, what we in law enforcement call "chain of custody".

Hang on a moment... are you telling me that your job is to lock up enemies of the same State that you spend every waking hour bitching about? Does this make you the equivalent of a FEMA camp guard?

We vote, someone counts or some corporation counts via computers and how do we know the count is correct?

Yeah you're right, we should totally put you in charge of counting votes, what with you being the fairest person on the earth ever.

The press in Italy has stated election fraud is going on in the US!

Well that settles it then... the European press are always right about the internal affairs of foreign nations. They're especially right when you just say that they are without actually providing the articles that make the claim.

Hey! I've got an idea! Perhaps we could get the Italians to count your votes for you! After all, I'm sure they have no history of ballot fraud whatsoever...

I have NEVER received a phone call asking me who I was voting for and I have been a registered Republican for over 15 years.

I thought that mental patients were only allowed to make out-calls, not receive in-calls? Maybe that has something to do with it?

But NEVER give up hope! These things must happen but Christ WILL prevail!

Him or Muhammed... it's a fairly even playing field right now.

[Norse]

"Why can't anyone see that Ron Paul is being spied on by The US Government? It's all so that Some smelly looking liberal, hidden in a secret HQ near The Pentagon can Defraud the American people. After that, The US Government will Invade some rag-head's oil supply when the disorder caused by Some smelly looking liberal reaches a peak. The only thing we can do is let Jay_a2j put together a militia to stop them. "

http://www.alchemica.co.uk/conspire/truth.cgi

[unriggable]

But NEVER give up hope! These things must happen but Christ WILL prevail!

If that's your mindset, Huckabee is a much more fitting candidate.

[OnlyAmbrose]

Honestly, if you guys think election fraud is going on, why aren't you running to Washington with your torches and pitchforks? The founding fathers would be ashamed.

[muy_thaiguy]

Honestly, if you guys think election fraud is going on, why aren't you running to Washington with your torches and pitchforks? The founding fathers would be ashamed.

They would be ashamed if you used pitchforks, shotguns, UZIs, and m
AK-47s would be more like what they would expect (in retrospect).

[jay_a2j]

Honestly, if you guys think election fraud is going on, why aren't you running to Washington with your torches and pitchforks? The founding fathers would be ashamed.

Voter Fraud Against Paul Confirmed in Sutton, N.H.

Kurt Nimmo
Truth News
January 8, 2008

According to a post this evening on the Ron Paul Forums, vote fraud occurred in Sutton, New Hampshire:

Sutton with 100% reporting reported 0 votes for paul but poster in Sutton posted:

My mom, aunt, and dad all voted for RP today in my hometown, My mom and aunt both work passing out ballots, and checking them off. I just looked at the politico map and it says their town has ZERO votes for Ron. Now i know that there isn’t corruption on voting in that little town, so where they reported it must be. What do I do, anyone know???

[unriggable]

Honestly, if you guys think election fraud is going on, why aren't you running to Washington with your torches and pitchforks? The founding fathers would be ashamed.

Voter Fraud Against Paul Confirmed in Sutton, N.H.

Kurt Nimmo
Truth News
January 8, 2008

According to a post this evening on the Ron Paul Forums, vote fraud occurred in Sutton, New Hampshire:

Sutton with 100% reporting reported 0 votes for paul but poster in Sutton posted:

My mom, aunt, and dad all voted for RP today in my hometown, My mom and aunt both work passing out ballots, and checking them off. I just looked at the politico map and it says their town has ZERO votes for Ron. Now i know that there isn’t corruption on voting in that little town, so where they reported it must be. What do I do, anyone know???

This is why capitalism sucks. You trust the government with the voting machines, not some corporation that can be easily swayed by either side.

[luns101]

Yes, there was a mistake made in Sutton, New Hampshire. The problem was corrected by the next morning and Ron Paul did receive credit for his 31 votes. It did not affect the outcome of the New Hampshire primary.

[jay_a2j]

Yes, there was a mistake made in Sutton, New Hampshire. The problem was corrected by the next morning and Ron Paul did receive credit for his 31 votes. It did not affect the outcome of the New Hampshire primary.

Yes because 3 definite votes were not accounted for so they had to "fix" it. But how many other districts did the same thing happen but went unnoticed?

[luns101]

Yes, there was a mistake made in Sutton, New Hampshire. The problem was corrected by the next morning and Ron Paul did receive credit for his 31 votes. It did not affect the outcome of the New Hampshire primary.

Yes because 3 definite votes were not accounted for so they had to "fix" it. But how many other districts did the same thing happen but went unnoticed?

Jay, mistakes happen during elections. The problem was rectified. I don't know how many other districts made mistakes and neither do you. Why should we automatically assume that there's some type of deception going on?

Let me ask you something, Jay. Read this story about what happened. Do you think the backlash Jennifer Call received was appropriate behavior?

At best, you could make the case that she should be held accountable to the people in her town when the next election rolls around for her position of town clerk. Perhaps she doesn't deserve to be the town clerk, but I hardly think threatening her was appropriate.

[jay_a2j]

Yes, there was a mistake made in Sutton, New Hampshire. The problem was corrected by the next morning and Ron Paul did receive credit for his 31 votes. It did not affect the outcome of the New Hampshire primary.

Yes because 3 definite votes were not accounted for so they had to "fix" it. But how many other districts did the same thing happen but went unnoticed?

Jay, mistakes happen during elections. The problem was rectified. I don't know how many other districts made mistakes and neither do you. Why should we automatically assume that there's some type of deception going on?

Let me ask you something, Jay. Read this story about what happened. Do you think the backlash Jennifer Call received was appropriate behavior?

At best, you could make the case that she should be held accountable to the people in her town when the next election rolls around for her position of town clerk. Perhaps she doesn't deserve to be the town clerk, but I hardly think threatening her was appropriate.

Well, you have to keep things in perspective. Ron Paul has been the target of many underhanded things and when people vote for him and its not counted it's easy to jump to the conclusion that, "They're doing it again".

I didn't get anything "threatening" from the article, however it was confusing her name being Call and received a call.....



Ron Paul wins 3 debates according to a phone text vote yet keeps coming in 5th. (Until Mich. were he finished 4th) RP is omitted from the NH debate and even the NH republican party pull their support of FOX citing the "unfairness of excluding Paul".

After the last Fox debate... where Paul came in 1st in the text poll. Sean Hannity skipped over Paul and talked about everybody else. You have to be blind not to see the bias.


I wonder how you would react if it was Huckabee and not Paul who was getting this kind of treatment?

[OnlyAmbrose]

Ron Paul wins 3 debates according to a phone text vote yet keeps coming in 5th. (Until Mich. were he finished 4th) RP is omitted from the NH debate and even the NH republican party pull their support of FOX citing the "unfairness of excluding Paul".

That's perfectly predictable. Ron Paul's supporters are generally younger, and thus they're the ones who use text polls to begin with. They're also a lot more passionate, so they text in their votes on every phone in their household. Surely you're not saying that success in a text poll is going to translate to success in the election?

I'm still firmly behind Ron Paul, but I'm not blaming his primary performance on rigged polls.

However, I DEFINITELY don't deny the lack of media coverage he's getting, but that's the fault of the media, not the government...