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Postby muy_thaiguy on Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:36 am

Skittles! wrote:Change it back then.
To what? So that a city in Italy can control Western Europe and the entire Mediteranean again? Not to mention that what the Arabs look like is about as close to what Jesus would have looked like 2000 years ago. The Jews of many places today, are the fruits of nearly 2000 years of exile from their homelands. Journeying throughout Europe and parts of Asia, and marrying into European peoples.
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Postby Skittles! on Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:52 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:
Skittles! wrote:Change it back then.
To what? So that a city in Italy can control Western Europe and the entire Mediteranean again? Not to mention that what the Arabs look like is about as close to what Jesus would have looked like 2000 years ago. The Jews of many places today, are the fruits of nearly 2000 years of exile from their homelands. Journeying throughout Europe and parts of Asia, and marrying into European peoples.

I meant change what Jesus looks like now to back when he was actually alive. Make him look like an Arab. What's the harm?
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Postby Jenos Ridan on Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:54 am

Skittles! wrote:Change it back then.


We're trying to get people used to the idea that Jesus wasn't the Blonde Haired, Blue Eyed pale figure seen in Victorian Era paintings, but there is still resistance.

Interestingly, two of my best friends, who are Southern Baptist, acknowledge that Jesus wasn't pale. Maybe it is because they have a faint American Indian heritage (very faint, so I'm told).
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Postby muy_thaiguy on Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:55 am

Skittles! wrote:
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Skittles! wrote:Change it back then.
To what? So that a city in Italy can control Western Europe and the entire Mediteranean again? Not to mention that what the Arabs look like is about as close to what Jesus would have looked like 2000 years ago. The Jews of many places today, are the fruits of nearly 2000 years of exile from their homelands. Journeying throughout Europe and parts of Asia, and marrying into European peoples.

I meant change what Jesus looks like now to back when he was actually alive. Make him look like an Arab. What's the harm?
Because he wasn't an Arab. Just that he probably looked fairly similar to an Arab. Also, it is practically impossible to tell what the Jews looked like back then other then that they most likely looked like the Arabs do.
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Postby Jenos Ridan on Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:55 am

Skittles! wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Skittles! wrote:Change it back then.
To what? So that a city in Italy can control Western Europe and the entire Mediteranean again? Not to mention that what the Arabs look like is about as close to what Jesus would have looked like 2000 years ago. The Jews of many places today, are the fruits of nearly 2000 years of exile from their homelands. Journeying throughout Europe and parts of Asia, and marrying into European peoples.

I meant change what Jesus looks like now to back when he was actually alive. Make him look like an Arab. What's the harm?


In all honesty, none. None at all, as most Christians already know this. Some, on the other hand......
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Postby Skittles! on Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:00 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:
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muy_thaiguy wrote:
Skittles! wrote:Change it back then.
To what? So that a city in Italy can control Western Europe and the entire Mediteranean again? Not to mention that what the Arabs look like is about as close to what Jesus would have looked like 2000 years ago. The Jews of many places today, are the fruits of nearly 2000 years of exile from their homelands. Journeying throughout Europe and parts of Asia, and marrying into European peoples.

I meant change what Jesus looks like now to back when he was actually alive. Make him look like an Arab. What's the harm?
Because he wasn't an Arab. Just that he probably looked fairly similar to an Arab. Also, it is practically impossible to tell what the Jews looked like back then other then that they most likely looked like the Arabs do.

I said "look like", not "be like". There is a faintly small difference.
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Postby got tonkaed on Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:58 am

i would actually imagine he will start to change over time. There was no real reason for him to be portrayed differently for at least the last 1900 years. The more multicultural elements come into play on a global stage the more people will probably begin to portray him closer to what he may have looked like.

I mean in some places they have already started referring to God in less gender specific terms and thats only after really a few decades of the second wave womens movement.
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Postby Jenos Ridan on Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:00 am

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I mean in some places they have already started referring to God in less gender specific terms and thats only after really a few decades of the second wave womens movement.


In spite of what Scripture tells us about Him. Lord, Father, God; none of these sound very "non-gender" to me. And I would think that Jesus, being the Son of the Lord (And thus being the Lord) would have Clue One in his Brain One when He refers to God as Father.

But maybe because I actually read what is written and not what I wish to see, maybe that makes me evil? I doubt it, but Contritarians love to use that tortured logic to justify the destruction of anything "traditional". Take a good look at the world: it hasn't changed fundamentally (it's still just as carnal as it was in Roman times) in over 2000 years and won't until Judgement Day.
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Postby Neutrino on Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:22 am

Jenos Ridan wrote:
In spite of what Scripture tells us about Him. Lord, Father, God; none of these sound very "non-gender" to me. And I would think that Jesus, being the Son of the Lord (And thus being the Lord) would have Clue One in his Brain One when He refers to God as Father.

But maybe because I actually read what is written and not what I wish to see, maybe that makes me evil? I doubt it, but Contritarians love to use that tortured logic to justify the destruction of anything "traditional". Take a good look at the world: it hasn't changed fundamentally (it's still just as carnal as it was in Roman times) in over 2000 years and won't until Judgement Day.


But God is supposed to be infinite. As an integral part of being infinite, God must possess every concievable trait. God is as much male as it is female, as it is a small hallucanogenic mushroom.
It may style itself male (or, more accurately, humans may style it male), but in reality it would be so far beyond human comprehension as to make the term "male" completely pointless.

P.S. I refuse to believe in any apparently infinite deity who's ego is so fragile as to require constant groveling in the form of violations of normal gramatical laws. The praying I can understand, as this requires some effort and so shows that person's love for God. The capitalization, however, is completely pointless.
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Postby unriggable on Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:40 am

Jenos Ridan wrote:
Skittles! wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Skittles! wrote:Change it back then.
To what? So that a city in Italy can control Western Europe and the entire Mediteranean again? Not to mention that what the Arabs look like is about as close to what Jesus would have looked like 2000 years ago. The Jews of many places today, are the fruits of nearly 2000 years of exile from their homelands. Journeying throughout Europe and parts of Asia, and marrying into European peoples.

I meant change what Jesus looks like now to back when he was actually alive. Make him look like an Arab. What's the harm?


In all honesty, none. None at all, as most Christians already know this. Some, on the other hand......


You know, if 3% of the American population says Jesus is the best American ever, I doubt they know what he looks like.
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