Risk Snobbery

[insomniacdude]

Meh. I wouldn't want to play against most of the higher-ups anyway. I like having fun and everything, but I'd prefer to also not lose every game I play if I can avoid it. There are plenty of really solid player in my rank range that provide a very good fight, but not so much so that my spirits are crushed to little more than a pea

I don't think it's out of line for higher-ups to want to play people of similar skill. I completely agree with them. It provides them with the most interesting games for them.

[KoE_Sirius]

I really don't get this thread.

I am a keen supporter of my local village football team. What do you think alex ferguson would say if we offered to play manchester united.

You wanna play against better players fine, then first beat people regularly at or just above your level and you will increase in points to a point where you will be invited to play the best.

Its not snobbery

Man utd play in the FA Cup already,but your local team is another matter lol..He'd say get lost lol

[trk1994]

I do tend to agree with sirius, i would like a shot at the top rank players as well. however. one could really expect to do so. Take boxing for instance, the rookie doesn't get the first shot at the champ, he must work his way up the ladder. Beat your peers before taking on those who have alreay make it past us. We will all get our shot as long as we keep at it and devole our patience and strategy. keep moving and don't give up.

[comic boy]

First of all lets be quite clear that the majority of high ranked players are competative and therefore do care about points,that is their perogative just as it is the perogative of others not to care at all about rank. However it is entirely wrong to suggest that we do not also play for fun, the point is that it is that there is little fun to be had playing against opponents that may well target you or ruin a tight game through poor strategy. When I play against 5 opponents averaging 2500 points I stand to gain 70 points and lose 30+, those are tough enough numbers to overcome but playing against guys on say 1200 points would be simply suicidal. Frankly anybody who maintains a rank of Major or above for a long period playing sequential (not freestyle ) singles deserves recognition for excellent gameplay, not name calling and snide remarks.
I concur entirely with Yorkiepeter, if you wanna play the big guns then work your way up the ranks like they did.

[KoE_Sirius]

Now that I have reached over 2400 points from playing public single player games.I can safely say.Risk snobs ...Give everyone a chance guys.
No glory in your snobbery.

[Scott-Land]

What crown have you ever worn? I'm assuming your're referring to the old ranking system where 2000 was a colonel............

[Snorri1234]

I do tend to agree with sirius, i would like a shot at the top rank players as well. however. one could really expect to do so. Take boxing for instance, the rookie doesn't get the first shot at the champ, he must work his way up the ladder. Beat your peers before taking on those who have alreay make it past us. We will all get our shot as long as we keep at it and devole our patience and strategy. keep moving and don't give up.

Fully agreed. It's only reasonable to expect this.

[Larry Mal]

The only thing I haven't seen on here is a revamping of the points system itself, in which a higher ranked person wouldn't lose so much that it would never be worth their time to play against a newcomer.

That is to say, if the Saint Louis Cardinals had to win more games than the lesser ranked opponents to make the playoffs, they'd take less chances with whom they played, right? Because like baseball and Conquer Club, and unlike chess, there is very much luck involved in Risk.

That is to say, at the beginning of a 5 person game, I have around a 20% chance of winning. Any greater skill I bring to the game than another, newer player, will likely be neutralized by the luck inherent in the game through dice and placement.

On the other hand, I only need to win one out of every eight or nine games or so to steadily move up in rank. Which is good, I haven't deviated from winning more than 30% or so games since I started.

In short: The points system is somewhat pointless, if I'll keep moving up in rank with greater #'s of points offsetting losses, then who cares about an individual game? It's all a steadily increasing aggregate so by taking the long view, whatever goal I were to set will be met in time.

I just play because I enjoy the game.

[Snorri1234]

That is to say, at the beginning of a 5 person game, I have around a 20% chance of winning. Any greater skill I bring to the game than another, newer player, will likely be neutralized by the luck inherent in the game through dice and placement.

Well not neutralized, but the skill-increase is not proportional to the changes of winning. And when you lose a game to luck, it's fucked up if you were playing against someone with such a low rank you lose lots of points.

[Andrevian]

I understand that the higher-ups don't like losing points, and play to be competitive. I can get that.

Really, then, we should implement a way for them to set the lowest rank of people they'll play, and for lower level folks, a higher level of people they'll play. I'm getting tired of playing higher level players myself, but not because of any actual competitive attitude.

I purchased premium to get in on speed games, because I enjoy the added bit of tension it injects into the atmosphere. Unfortunately, the game is a rare one where, when I'm in a good position, I don't hear the phrase "Kill Andrevian; he'll make us lose too many points if he wins."

I know that's some good meta-strategy; everybody seems to do it. But it gets tiring, hearing that phrase whenever I have a chance at victory. Maybe premium memberships should be rank-restricted, so that casual speed-game players don't get the opportunity to feel cheated when everyone jumps on them for not having the right number of chevrons next to their name.

If they can choose not to play lower level players, then I should get a choice, in advance, not to play higher level folks who are likely to utter that line, "Hey, we have to kill {color}or we'll lose a lot of points."

Maybe they should get a second tag around their name. Like, say, Lieutenant{Afraidtolosehisrank} or something.

[Snorri1234]

I understand that the higher-ups don't like losing points, and play to be competitive. I can get that.

Really, then, we should implement a way for them to set the lowest rank of people they'll play, and for lower level folks, a higher level of people they'll play. I'm getting tired of playing higher level players myself, but not because of any actual competitive attitude.

I purchased premium to get in on speed games, because I enjoy the added bit of tension it injects into the atmosphere. Unfortunately, the game is a rare one where, when I'm in a good position, I don't hear the phrase "Kill Andrevian; he'll make us lose too many points if he wins."

I know that's some good meta-strategy; everybody seems to do it. But it gets tiring, hearing that phrase whenever I have a chance at victory. Maybe premium memberships should be rank-restricted, so that casual speed-game players don't get the opportunity to feel cheated when everyone jumps on them for not having the right number of chevrons next to their name.

If they can choose not to play lower level players, then I should get a choice, in advance, not to play higher level folks who are likely to utter that line, "Hey, we have to kill {color}or we'll lose a lot of points."

Maybe they should get a second tag around their name. Like, say, Lieutenant{Afraidtolosehisrank} or something.

Doesn't sound like a bad idea actually.

[bkondik]

I here you on the snobbery issue. I am new to the game. I am 2-0 with 38 games played. In 2 of those games I defeated Xtratabasco and now she put me on her ignore list. She plays all of the games, and now I can't join any of them. I never typed in one word either toward or against her. Apparently she doesn't like to lose. LOSER

[rebelman]

when sirius started this thread he was a corporal and the ponies didn't want him to be part of a clan challenge - now that hes a major and playing i believe exactly the same as he did back then maybe clans and individuals should start looking beyond the scoreboard and see the player instead.

[JACKAZZTJM]

man i gotta admit there are alot of snobby pricks on this site god forbid your not in the top 500 shit the chatroom is more clicky than a highschool lunch room people in here gotta realize its just a game have fun with it u cant say nething without being trashed for it if ur new alot people in here gotta learn how to take a jk

[hulmey]

Not only that! Most of the players that have points over 2500 take this game as a matter of life or death. Most of them have also got the intelligence of a school girl LMAO....

Notice they always play the same kind of maps and game types (escalating). How boring are we gentlemen?

[Blitzaholic]

I just wish the snobbery would stop in this community.I have never refused to play anyone because of rank.If I did then I would properly still have a crown.The crown would be worthless though.
If you can't play all of conquerclub,then it tends to limit our horizons.
Still thats just me.
I can understand why you wouldnt want to play deadbeats,but thats where my understanding comes to a close.
I'm sorry if this offends some of you,but its how I feel.

are you saying you had a crown before and hit over 3000?

cause i am quite sure you never have, no offense.

[KoE_Sirius]

I just wish the snobbery would stop in this community.I have never refused to play anyone because of rank.If I did then I would properly still have a crown.The crown would be worthless though.
If you can't play all of conquerclub,then it tends to limit our horizons.
Still thats just me.
I can understand why you wouldnt want to play deadbeats,but thats where my understanding comes to a close.
I'm sorry if this offends some of you,but its how I feel.

are you saying you had a crown before and hit over 3000?

cause i am quite sure you never have, no offense.

I had a crown before they changed the rank system...Not really sure why you took this blip out of the subject tho.

[Blitzaholic]

well a crown back then was like 2000

anyways, sorry to interrupt

[hulmey]

and was a bloody good score to have considering the amount of players that were playing at the timE!

[Scott-Land]

well a crown back then was like 2000

anyways, sorry to interrupt

why didnt you read my post in this thread Blitz-- dissing me like that = )

[billy07]

there is nothing more fustrating than watching some low rank take a cash of 20 in an 8 player esc game and go for europe. Destroying any strategy you had in a game. Then watching the next player sweep the board.

Oh aye that is fun, and sirius is this why you only play age of realms magic, freestyle? Proof you don`t care about points, eh?

[KoE_Sirius]

there is nothing more fustrating than watching some low rank take a cash of 20 in an 8 player esc game and go for europe. Destroying any strategy you had in a game. Then watching the next player sweep the board.

Oh aye that is fun, and sirius is this why you only play age of realms magic, freestyle? Proof you don`t care about points, eh?

I like capitals...I used to play it a lot in MSN The Zone...I do play other maps from time to time...Classic is so boring though.I have the star wars map at home and its a more pleasing on the eye.I also play Feudal war a lot and sometimes the other Realms map.I often open a 1v1 game for anyone to join.

[KoE_Sirius]

well a crown back then was like 2000

anyways, sorry to interrupt

why didnt you read my post in this thread Blitz-- dissing me like that = )

Scott ..I know you got a problem with me,but this thread is not really about me...Its about snobs who won't play chefs etc..The crown back then was hard to achieve.Only a handful had one.At the time you didnt,but I won't get into that.I'm not a risk snob!...I would have been happy as a private.

[owenshooter]

I have the star wars map at home

star wars?!!! did someone just say star wars??!!! i feel that this thread is about to be hijacked!!-0

[KoE_Sirius]

I have the star wars map at home

star wars?!!! did someone just say star wars??!!! i feel that this thread is about to be hijacked!!-0

Jedi Knights stay away...I was refering to a Star Wars Version of the Parker Brothers Risk "Clone Wars Edt".Nothing more..This subject is about Risk Snobs.