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Brain Chips

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:22 am
by GabonX
2006

The era of the real-life bionic man may be a little bit closer after scientists in the U.S. announced they had successfully implanted a chip into the brain of a quadriplegic man enabling him to use a computer and operate a robotic arm.

Professor John Donoghue of Brown University, who led the research, told CNN the breakthrough heralded the "dawn of the age of neurotechnology" after the results of the study were published in the latest edition of Nature.

The device, known as BrainGate, enabled 25-year-old Matthew Nagle to perform basic tasks such as moving a computer cursor, changing TV channels and even operating the fingers on a prosthetic hand.
"We have devices that can put signals into the brain that help treat disorders and restore function but we don't have devices for getting signals back out of the brain," said Donoghue.

"That's where we have really provided something new and that's really opening up a new vista for the field."

Donoghue said the long-term goal of the study was to develop brain computer interfaces (BCIs) that would enable the paralyzed to move their limbs.

"This study shows it is possible for someone with a longstanding spinal cord injury to use the brain signals from the movement areas of their brain to control the world again. We hope that one day we can physically repair the nervous system by connecting brain activity back up to the muscles and allowing them to move again."

But some futurists believe that could be the tip of the iceberg, with nanotechnological advances enabling the creation of chip implants small enough to sit within the human nervous system and cybernetic progress one day enabling the blind to see, the deaf to hear and the paralysed to walk.

Beyond alleviating the effects of severe disabilities, normal functioning humans could also benefit from "upgrades" to improve intelligence, sensory awareness or simply to counter the effects of aging.

Donoghue said such developments remained a long way off: "I think for the foreseeable future the center that picks up these brain signals needs to be on the inside. That requires surgery and I just don't see us having surgery."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/07 ... index.html














Three short years later...

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They can’t extract secret terrorist plots yet, but Utah bioengineers have implanted a brain chip in human test subjects that enables researchers to download brain data onto hard drives. The team working with the chip is hoping to make immediate improvements in the lives of people with epilepsy, paralysis or blindness, but say the chips may one day enable brain-native Internet browsing or most any other function currently possible with a computer.

The Utah Electrode Array’s purpose is analogous to a modem: It relays data from the brain to a computer, and vice-versa. It may soon enable thought control of bionic limbs like Luke Skywalker’s in Star Wars and, further in the future, may help the blind to see.

Neural Engineering Lab supervisor and University of Utah assistant professor Bradley Greger describes the chip as “a platform technology that is going to enable many, many new things.” With a grant from the National Institutes of Health, Greger and dozens of other scientists are pioneering brain-computing technology.

http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/article- ... d-see.html

"It's time you saw the future while you still have human eyes"
-Kane
















A Question:

Despite the obvious breach of ethics, when these things begin coming to fruition could there be a push for mind control in a physical sense?







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Re: Brain Chips

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:29 am
by SultanOfSurreal
this is bullshit, your thread title made me think lays was rolling out a new flavor

Re: Brain Chips

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:30 am
by GabonX
Missed you Sultan :mrgreen:

Re: Brain Chips

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:27 pm
by john9blue
How exactly is this a breach of ethics? I still stand by the idea that we will not be able to create consciousness because I think humans are more than material. In fact, as one of my profs is fond of saying, "computers are dumb" and only do exactly what you tell them to do. ;)

Re: Brain Chips

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:41 pm
by GabonX
We are more than matter but matter is a big part of our existence. If something goes wrong with our matter it is not a good thing.

I don't necessarily think the chips themselves are a breach of ethics, but rather using them for mind control or forcing people to get them for one reason or another.

Do you really not see what is wrong with these things?

Re: Brain Chips

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:10 pm
by john9blue
Mind control would be a breach of ethics. You're saying that the government will force people to get these installed? :?

Re: Brain Chips

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:11 pm
by GabonX
john9blue wrote:Mind control would be a breach of ethics. You're saying that the government will force people to get these installed? :?

No

I asked a question. Even if the government didn't "force" people to get these things, the potential for abuse in those who would get them would exist. Would education still be necessary or could we simply "download" everything we would need to know? Would the ability to reference information instantly and internally be just as good?

Imagine a world where you don't need an external device to browse the internet because the hardware is built in. Consider that the distinction between a computer virus, and a virus which affects people, may begin to blur...

Re: Brain Chips

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:46 pm
by john9blue
I think that as long as we retain our critical thinking skills (which are located in a different area of the brain than memory) then there is no problem with having direct mental access to digital information. It would probably be possible to distinguish the source of the information, because when you learn something today, it usually comes with a variety of sensory information... as opposed to a digital database where the information is raw.

Then again, I'm no neurologist, and how exactly they are capable of engineering the human brain, and to what extent, is beyond me.

Anyone who has read this week's chapter of One Piece will notice some interesting parallels... :lol:

Re: Brain Chips

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:22 am
by oVo
SultanOfSurreal wrote:this is bullshit, your thread title made me think lays was rolling out a new flavor

I'll wait for spicy bar-b-que flavor brain chips.

Re: Brain Chips

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:08 pm
by GabonX
Give it a couple years. They'll probably have a signal for that..

Re: Brain Chips

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:42 am
by VidaParis
john9blue wrote:Mind control would be a breach of ethics. You're saying that the government will force people to get these installed? :?

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