Conquer Club

Hey, I just saw on the news, that Quebec is trying to be declaired it's own country again. But this time, it want's to be a country inside of Canada. As in a country inside a country. They want to use all the same Canadian stuff, (curence, power, trading, etc...) but be reconized as a country inside Canada.
What is your guys outlook upon this,
Mine is against cause if they want to be their own country, go right ahead, but don't let them benifit off of Canada and all the stuff we have worked for.

Hmm... like the Vatican? I dunno. I think they can keep the same currency, but I personally think they should obtain their own power and claim to fame. get what i'm saying?

who are they putting this claim into?

isnt canada still an english thingy...or at least recognises are queen as one of the heads of state

edmundomcpot wrote:who are they putting this claim into?

isnt canada still an english thingy...or at least recognises are queen as one of the heads of state

yeah, the queen is head of gov't, but does absolutely nothing. and all governmental ties to england are gone.

but they just cant be bothered asking for official independance?...or do candadians veiw themselvs as independant

any province that promotes eating Poutine should definitely be kicked out of the country.

edmundomcpot wrote:but they just cant be bothered asking for official independance?...or do candadians veiw themselvs as independant

They want sovereignty within the Canadian Government? As an American I don't have much info. Sounds to me like they've got a case. I mean, they're pretty insular to begin with aren't they?

Then they can call themselves Quebeckians and we can get a new map for CC.

edmundomcpot wrote:but they just cant be bothered asking for official independance?...or do candadians veiw themselvs as independant

they already view themselves as indepedent, of course, because they are. but getting independence would either result in war or the breakup of the common wealth.

i understand now..except one thing..would the queen actually have a say in the final outcome

probably, seeing that it would be a new country in her commonwealth. i'm an american, so i'm not sure tho.

Correct me if I'm wrong but...

Canada is a fully soverign state, like the United States, Japan, India, ect...

Quebec (and other Canadian provinces) occupy the same "spot" in Canadian government as states do in the US

the largest factor keeping Quebec a part of the Canadian State is that if Quebec became its own State the Maritime Provinces would be seperated from the rest of Canada. Of course, there are economic factors, but isn't that the largest problem of Quebec gaining independence as its own State?

p.s. state=state, State=country/nation

you're right. i hadn't thought of that. maybe labrador will go out with it.

wicked wrote:any province that promotes eating Poutine should definitely be kicked out of the country.

True true, though it tastes actually not bad but still...
Quebec tried before to split off of Canada and become its own Country but didn't succeed cause they realized they wouldn't be able to survive with all the stuff that comes with being your own country, also the natives that own most of northern Quebec, have Quebec's main power dams and stuff on their land, so they threatened Quebec that if they became their own country, they would stop Quebec using the power stations on thier land and more than likely make Quebec pay for that power...which would hurt Quebec alot.
And to my knowledge (im only 17, but the Queen has almost no say in anything, Canada I believe has split off of Britian's ties.

Ha, me and my dad say we should ship all the Quebecer's that want to split off to newfoundland and let them be their own country and bring the Newfie's inland into Quebec..so Quebec that wants to be their own country, can have water access and be out of Canada's ways.

bluereaper wrote:, Canada I believe has split off of Britian's ties.

then whyarnt we bombing you??? .... or dont you have any sheep over there..we only fight over places with sheep

ummm...how does the British queen have anything 2 do with Canada, when it was the French who claimed it as a territory

edmundomcpot wrote:

bluereaper wrote:, Canada I believe has split off of Britian's ties.

then whyarnt we bombing you??? .... or dont you have any sheep over there..we only fight over places with sheep

nope, no sheep over here...we are like America, (but don't do wars and such) we all friends with other countries, but don't go by Britain's rules. We have made our own


Correct me if im wrong anyone

I am a canadian citizen plz ignore my location......f*** quebec cause ur staying in Canada whether u like it or not

Sammy gags wrote:ummm...how does the British queen have anything 2 do with Canada, when it was the French who claimed it as a territory

Yes, but when the French lost the French and Indian War (I believe it's also called the Seven Years War?) anyway, Britian gained France's territory in North America.

I really wanted to vote but i couldnt find the "who gives a flying f*ck" button, so i voted the last option on because it was the only thing that came close to f*ck and canada.

can't they just be a regular province like B.C., Ontario, etc.? you don't see California goin around tryin to become a country. there's a reason for that. if Quebec tries, you know the Canadian Army (what's actually there, all 500 people ) would invade and destroy Quebec and French Canadians altogether. that wouldn't be smart.

P Gizzle wrote:can't they just be a regular province like B.C., Ontario, etc.? you don't see California goin around tryin to become a country. there's a reason for that. if Quebec tries, you know the Canadian Army (what's actually there, all 500 people ) would invade and destroy Quebec and French Canadians altogether. that wouldn't be smart.

Yup, we can invade them and make them all convert to english

bluereaper wrote:

P Gizzle wrote:can't they just be a regular province like B.C., Ontario, etc.? you don't see California goin around tryin to become a country. there's a reason for that. if Quebec tries, you know the Canadian Army (what's actually there, all 500 people ) would invade and destroy Quebec and French Canadians altogether. that wouldn't be smart.

Yup, we can invade them and make them all convert to english

hey not a bad idea. at least somebody (even if they are canadians) actually invaded Canada (even though us Yankees did waaaay back in the Rev. War)

As I understand it, Canada has never broken its ties with the British monarchy. The Governor General of Canada is appointed by the duly elected Prime Minister to be the Queen's representative in Canada. The GG gives royal assent to all bills that make their way through Parliament and the Senate. The GG is also Commander in Chief of the military. Back in the 80s, Queen Elizabeth and then Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau signed the Canadian Constitution. Prior to this, Canada existed due to an act of the British parliament - the British North America Act. The constitution has never been ratified by Quebec because it does not contain special provisions which would allow the Quebec provincial government to preserve its French heritage and culture (among other things). There have been subsequent attempts to bring Quebec into the fold, most notably the proposed Meech Lake Accord which would have given Quebec a distinct society status. However, the other provinces did not agree to adopting the Meech Lake Accord (and other proposed accords/amendments).
Although I'd like to retain Quebec, I don't think this issue will ever be resolved until the separatists have their way. Support for an independent Quebec is too strong - I don't believe it is just going to go away. If Quebec is going to leave, they should just hurry up and get it over with. In the end, it might be best for everyone. Frigging around with "distinct society" clauses and nations within nations is just stupid in my opinion.

bluereaper wrote:quebec being aloud to be a country inside canada

I think Canada is loud enough now! Can you imagine how loud it would be with french people actually inside you?

That's just crazy talk.