Conquer Club

So...
Which party do you think will control the House and Senate after the election?

Will Kerry's comments about the military affect the Democrat's chances of taking control?

Will the sex scandal of a major Christian conservative surely bury the Republicans?

Make your predictions here.

Does it really matter.

They are both controlled by big business.

They are just carbon copies of each other that claim to have different interests but in the end they both bow down to big bucks.

They should just join together and form the Lobby party since thats who controlls them both already.

Kerry should just bury his head in the sand and never bring it out.

When a week goes by theres not a scandal in Washington we should all celebrate.

I think either party will help a little but screw us over in the long run.

I don't think the actions of one person should have such large, maybe election changing, effects on the way people look at the whole party. Foley sent some sexual messages to a page! Republicans shouldn't get control of the white house.. Kerry makes a stupid statement! Can't let the Democrats have control.. Does that make sense to anyone? Maybe i'm just slow..

As for who wins, I have no predictions..

Well, if the Democrats take control prepare for Polosi to repeal the Bush tax cuts, and brace yourself for tax increases along with cuts in the military. If it happens we are in trouble.

jay_a2j wrote:Well, if the Democrats take control prepare for Polosi to repeal the Bush tax cuts, and brace yourself for tax increases along with cuts in the military. If it happens we are in trouble.

Well, considering that I don't make $100,000+ a year I'm not really worried about the tax cuts being repealed.

And as far as the military is concerned, we spend $466 billion a year on defense. The next highest spender is China, they spend $65 billion. Just who are we competing with?
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... ending.htm

with all the bad publicity the republicans are getting, the democrats could easily take control.

vtmarik wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:Well, if the Democrats take control prepare for Polosi to repeal the Bush tax cuts, and brace yourself for tax increases along with cuts in the military. If it happens we are in trouble.

Well, considering that I don't make $100,000+ a year I'm not really worried about the tax cuts being repealed.

And as far as the military is concerned, we spend $466 billion a year on defense. The next highest spender is China, they spend $65 billion. Just who are we competing with?
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... ending.htm

I was going to write that butvt fastposted me by 30 minutes.

vtmarik wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:Well, if the Democrats take control prepare for Polosi to repeal the Bush tax cuts, and brace yourself for tax increases along with cuts in the military. If it happens we are in trouble.

Well, considering that I don't make $100,000+ a year I'm not really worried about the tax cuts being repealed.

And as far as the military is concerned, we spend $466 billion a year on defense. The next highest spender is China, they spend $65 billion. Just who are we competing with?
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... ending.htm

What is with the total bs? I don't make anywhere near 100,000 + and I benefited from the Bush tax cuts! And so did a whole lot of other "unrich" people! I didn't realize people actually bought the Demacrats line of "Republicans only give tax breaks to the rich"! Are you mad?


Yeah well something ain't right here. If we are spending $466 B a year then how is it the dems where complaining that our troops were underequiped with the lack of body armor and what not? Wake up, the democrats are taking you for a ride.

jay_a2j wrote:

vtmarik wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:Well, if the Democrats take control prepare for Polosi to repeal the Bush tax cuts, and brace yourself for tax increases along with cuts in the military. If it happens we are in trouble.

Well, considering that I don't make $100,000+ a year I'm not really worried about the tax cuts being repealed.

And as far as the military is concerned, we spend $466 billion a year on defense. The next highest spender is China, they spend $65 billion. Just who are we competing with?
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... ending.htm

What is with the total bs? I don't make anywhere near 100,000 + and I benefited from the Bush tax cuts! And so did a whole lot of other "unrich" people! I didn't realize people actually bought the Demacrats line of "Republicans only give tax breaks to the rich"! Are you mad?


Yeah well something ain't right here. If we are spending $466 B a year then how is it the dems where complaining that our troops were underequiped with the lack of body armor and what not? Wake up, the democrats are taking you for a ride.

most of his tax cuts do only benefit the risk like the inheritance tax or whatever it was too lazy to look it up..



Well since we've got troops in all 192 countries.. its hard to keep all of them equipped iwth only 465. We e

Rev you may need to look at this >>> http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/reports/taxplan.html



And I highly doubt we have troops in all 192 countries.

jay_a2j wrote:Rev you may need to look at this >>> http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/reports/taxplan.html



And I highly doubt we have troops in all 192 countries.

saying all 192 countries was hyperbole but we do have troops in alot but I"ve got headache and dont want to look it up right now..


the death tax elimination was proven to protect 99% rich people only..


on http://www.emogame.com play teh bush game... it has facts supporting ti too.

The fountain of ignorance spewing forth in this thread is mind-boggling.

First of all, the inheritance or estate tax doesn't just affect "rich people." Above all, the inheritance tax is absolutely screwing families such as farmers who have held a large amount of land in their families for generations but now are forced to liquidate their assets just to pay the taxes. That's absolutely ridiculous.

Second, I'm not sure where the $100,000 figure is coming from (for some reason, $75,000 is stuck in my head) as the threshold for tax relief, but that really is NOT a lot of money in a double-income household as many Americans are these days (we can argue what defines "rich" all day long).

In my opinion, the Sixteenth Amendment should be repealed and replaced with a national sales tax (FairTax - H.R. Bill 25/S. 25) but that debate should most likely be reserved for another thread.

The defense department is always going to take the lion's share of the budget, as it should be, since this is the primary responsibility of the government. Is $400+ billion excessive? Probably. There's a lot of waste. Do we cut back? Not without consequence. With the Islamoterrorists making it their stated goal of destroying the West and with the madman in North Korea playing with nukes, I'd say that's who we're competing with.

And will it really matter which party controls Congress? Probably not. Although I'm personally a little uncomfortable with people like John Kerry in charge of the safety of our service men and women and I'm *really* leery of "Speaker" Pelosi having her little hands on the nation's purse strings, the good thing that might come out of this is that there will be a stalemate in Washington and NOTHING gets done - I'm quite happy with each passing day where the politicians don't get a chance to screw us.

By the way, Caleb, thanks for starting another thread that pushes people's buttons.

DogDoc wrote:By the way, Caleb, thanks for starting another thread that pushes people's buttons.

President Bush came here, Greeley, Colorado, Saturday to rally support for Marilyn Musgrave and Bob Beauprez.
I am against Bob, the Republican candidate for governor, for one main reason.
He illegally accessed court information about a trial that is only suppossed to be seen in for reasons of justice and used the info in an attack ad on his Democratic opponent, Bill Ritter.
I support Bill Ritter on some issues, while strictly disagree with him on stem cell research.
Then Marilyn Musgrave is running for Senator in my local Congressional District against the liberal Anggie Paccione.
Paccione admits to have not paid her taxes, but wants to raise mine.
She filed bankruptcy in 1992, wants to give illegal immigrants more rights and benefits.
I do not think that I want her to handle my money.
So I hope that the Democrats will gain control of the governor seat, but that Musgrave will hold her seat in Congress.

Thoreau didn't pay his taxes... nice fellow.

Whoever wins, propotionally, the rich will get richer, the middle class will evaporate, and the poor will remain poor.

Wait why would we cut military spending anyways? Like DogDoc said there are still a lot of terrorists out there. Second if either John Kerry or Hilary Clinton get control I'm moving.

regarding tax cuts:
No president hs ever balanced the budget by cutting taxes.

No president has EVER cut taxes during a time of war.

By "saving" us from terroism president Bush is putting us at the mercy of japanese adn chinese venture capitalists who are buying up T-bills and floating our debt. We will eventually need to pay them back, jsut liek with the vietnam war bonds which we paid back recently due to foreign investors loaning us more money (thats taking a loan to pay off a loan).

Republicans and their tax cuts are a HUGE gamble, will China and Japan and the rest of the world still have enough confidence in us when we slip from being THE world economic power to give us money to repay the bonds later on, or will we fall into a very dangerous economic situation. I am going to be the one to pay for my parent's mistakes. please suck it in, buy a car which eats less gas, pay higher taxes and the money you save will go into the future of the nation.

Also: If the rich didn't so selfishly hide their money away in tax shelters we would have billions of dollars more to use, we woudlnt' be trillions of dolalrs in debt either.

Does anyone have an recent polls or somesuch which show the general trend most states are following...? I'm having trouble finding anything useful.

OMG, the LAST thing you should base your vote off of is what everyone else thinks. Besides, according to most political theorists, the majority is very easily swayed, and dont' always mae the best choices

cowshrptrn wrote:OMG, the LAST thing you should base your vote off of is what everyone else thinks. Besides, according to most political theorists, the majority is very easily swayed, and dont' always mae the best choices

Oh please. Not only am I too young to vote in the first place, but I would NEVER base my vote off of what the majority voted for.

But since this thread is about speculating what will happen, I figured polls might be useful.

whoops, my bad for not reading the first post...

if its predictions, then i'm going with the general concensus; Senate is toss up/republican leaning, and the hoseu is probably going to end up democrat

cowshrptrn wrote:buy a car which eats less gas, pay higher taxes

but the government taxes 24 cents for every gallon of gas, so if we use less gas, the government gets less money...

we also have gas subsidies, huge ones mind you.

besides it woudl drive the price down in general, meaning we would be less averse to paying more in income taxes