Conquer Club

This is to all foriegners and americans who think they know why America is so hated. please only post one reason at a time and i will try to answer them all. this is related to the "does america need a revolution" topic so post accordingly

Hmmm... what to choose.

Meh, let's see:

The Kyoto agreement.

McDonalds, Burger King, Kentucky Fried Chicken...

for the first reply you obvously dont no anything aobut the kyoto agreement or else you would only hate the countries that signed not the US. for the second one why would you hate a country for the business that originates here.the goverment doesnt force companies to move to other countries . business move there to make money. its called capitalism

for the first reply you obvously dont no anything aobut the kyoto agreement or else you would only hate the countries that signed not the US.

explain

You didn't answer either one. Amazing.

i answered both amazing how dumb you are

Good comeback, hendy. You've yet to explain why we should hate countries that signed the Kyoto Protocol.

qeee1 wrote:

for the first reply you obvously dont no anything aobut the kyoto agreement or else you would only hate the countries that signed not the US.

explain

not allof the protocaol is bad but there are some oarts that make it useless. for instance a country with emissions lower the the limit can sell its excess polution to another country. that doesnt solve the polution problem that just makes an industry out of excess polution sales

Okay, so how is that bad for the US, who has more than 5 times the allowable limit anyways?

the kyoto agreement is useless if a)you can sell it and b) no one follows it (or at least the US doesnt)

And if I were to guess, I would say many foreigners hate us because of the supreme arrogance of many prominent Americans.

People hate America because A) We are the richest country in the world (greed) B) We are the most powerful country in the world C) We start wars on countries D) We get into stuff that is none of our business (Isreal and Pakistan)
There are others, but those are the most obvious

The selling thing makes environmentally friendly country more economically sound countries. That's not necessarily a bad thing.

The fact that the US hasn't signed up to it, is hardly an argument against it, just an indictment of the US.

qeee1 wrote:The selling thing makes environmentally friendly country more economically sound countries. That's not necessarily a bad thing.

The fact that the US hasn't signed up to it, is hardly an argument against it, just an indictment of the US.

you shouldnt be able to buy enough extra polution so that you can go on the way you are the limits are there to do just that. limit the amount of polution that comes out of that particular country not to make another country economically sound

the world hates america because they dont know the REAL america, just the one that the media shows.

Cheesemore wrote:People hate America because A) We are the richest country in the world (greed) B) We are the most powerful country in the world C) We start wars on countries D) We get into stuff that is none of our business (Isreal and Pakistan)
There are others, but those are the most obvious

how is isreal none of our business? we are the most powerful ally they have. the only war we have started since we have existed is the america revolution and the Iraq war. Even if we dont find WMD's isnt it better to not have saddam in power anymore?saying no to that question is like saying if hitler hadnt invaded so many countries he wouldnt have been such a bad guy. we are the rishest country because of American work. 200 years ago we were nothing now we are a superpower and widly rich compared to other nations. that is because of work americans put in not anyone else. what are youeven talking about with pakistan?

Okay, so how is that bad for the US, who has more than 5 times the allowable limit anyways?

we are over the limit because we didnt sign because of the weaknesses in the protocol

thank you p gizzle you made a point i have overlooked

How about "The War on Terror" and "The axis of Evil"
Please tell me you guys don't actually buy it.

well dont tell me you dont believe in Terrorists. because even if it is a lame excuse to attack Iraq, there are terrorists out there and they don't like Christians, or Americans to be exact.

as for the Axis of Evil thing, look at N. Korea now. they are quite evil and want to kill us, so does Iran.

i belive that we are fighting against terrorists and evil people who hjate us if that means that i believ all that then so be it

terrafirma wrote:

qeee1 wrote:The selling thing makes environmentally friendly country more economically sound countries. That's not necessarily a bad thing.

The fact that the US hasn't signed up to it, is hardly an argument against it, just an indictment of the US.

you shouldnt be able to buy enough extra polution so that you can go on the way you are the limits are there to do just that. limit the amount of polution that comes out of that particular country not to make another country economically sound

The concept isn't to make the other country economically sound. The idea is to discourage polution, and encourage environmentally friendly policies. Economic sanctions are the best way to do this short of raising an army, and killing anyone who violates them. If the fines aren't working, they need to be increased.

Public space does not belong to anyone but is used by everyone, and as such needs regulation to ensure it's not abused. Pay parking is in operation in many cities, to aid the flow of traffic. Some people walk everywhere and save money. Some people see the car as indespensible sometimes, and pay to park when they need to. America parks it's big SUV in the middle of the road and refuses to pay the fines when called upon, because they can beat up anyone who would dare enforce the fines.

terrafirma wrote:how is isreal none of our business? we are the most powerful ally they have. the only war we have started since we have existed is the america revolution and the Iraq war. Even if we dont find WMD's isnt it better to not have saddam in power anymore?saying no to that question is like saying if hitler hadnt invaded so many countries he wouldnt have been such a bad guy. we are the rishest country because of American work. 200 years ago we were nothing now we are a superpower and widly rich compared to other nations. that is because of work americans put in not anyone else. what are youeven talking about with pakistan?

While I'm usually a proud American and will gravitate towards these sort of threads to attempt a civil defense against blind hatred... I have to point something out.

The American Revolution is out by default, Iraq included. But let's take a step back into history and take a look at wars the United States of America has started.

1.) Mexican-American War. President Polk used power politics and bullied the Mexican's into war. The American government of the time wanted the Mexican's northern territories because of the growing popularity of expansionism. Look up manifest destiny if you'd like to learn more about American expansion.

2.) Spanish-American War. You might read in high school history books that the American government of the time was well-prepared and just in their decision to declare war against Spain because of the sinking of the USS Maine. However, a little research into the spark of this war will tell you otherwise.

3.) Phillipine-American War. Just after the Spanish-American War, the United States purchases the Phillipines. A filipino movement of independence occurs just after news reaches them that the U.S. government planned on making their country a U.S. possession. American troops are sent in to stabilize the country, war ensues for three years.

4.) War of 1812. More American expansionism. Read up on that.

There are plenty of other wars that the United States has started in the name of one thing or another. If you're going to defend this country, at least do it with the information to back yourself up.

P Gizzle wrote:well dont tell me you dont believe in Terrorists. because even if it is a lame excuse to attack Iraq, there are terrorists out there and they don't like Christians, or Americans to be exact.

as for the Axis of Evil thing, look at N. Korea now. they are quite evil and want to kill us, so does Iran.

Terrorism has always been hard to define. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom-fighter. It's funny, how when Britain was experiencing 50 years of IRA bombs the US government did nothing to stop the funding coming out of the USA.

Who is to say what is "evil" It is a strong term, only used by the US government to whip people like Jay up.

LOL @ Qeee....come on my friend....what the hells are you talking about? Middle of the road? Dont pay the fines? I think youre watching too many movies......

Someone parks in the middle of the road, I'll fucking ram their pretty SUV into the ditch and call a tow truck who will impound it - no pay, no car. Only the criminal element ignore tickets on their eventual road to jail.

I usually love your euphamisms, but that one was just plain silly! Quit allying!!