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Posted: **Sat May 17, 2008 10:47 pm**

I never hear any Hitler quotations? Does anybody know any? Has anyone read Mein Kampf?

I started reading Mein Kampf. Then I got to about page 10 and my Jewish girlfriend found out I was beginning to read Mein Kampf and she really hated me for it, so I never finished reading it. I stopped reading it right there and then and immediately returned the book to the library.

Am I really missing out on anything in particular from not reading Hitler's How To Start A Holocaust manual?

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2008 11:14 pm**

Hey, das ist mien drink!

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2008 11:15 pm**

"Ich ben ein Berliner"...?

"I want a horny little Jewish Princess"...?

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 12:09 am**

InkL0sed wrote:"Ich ben ein Berliner"...?

"I want a horny little Jewish Princess"...?

Are those from Mein Kampf?

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 12:10 am**

wienerschnitzel... best fast food name ever...

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 12:20 am**

I think it's obvious your answer is no.
I identify Frank Zappa, and JFK, but no Hitler in the quotes.
Frankly, important as the book is as ahistoorical source, I wouldn't tackle it myself unless I was deeply into source documents for the period.

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 12:58 am**

jonesthecurl wrote:I think it's obvious your answer is no.
I identify Frank Zappa, and JFK, but no Hitler in the quotes.
Frankly, important as the book is as ahistoorical source, I wouldn't tackle it myself unless I was deeply into source documents for the period.

That's kind of what I figured. Why do I need to read it unless I am studying history for my graduate studies? And I really don't have any desire to delve into it. I would rather read Ron Paul and DnD 4E!

I just build tractor cabs!

All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.--Adolf Hitler

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 1:05 am**

i had to read it for a class in college.

it's pretty fucking stupid.

and he wrote it all hopped up on amphets. like Kerouac with On The Road. and yup, that one was completely self-indulgent, rambly and fucking stupid too.

hooray. hitler was a meth-head douche bag who twisted the shit out of Hegel and hid behind the general public's misconceptions about eugenics and genetics.

don't waste your time reading the book. if you really wanna understand, go cook up some meth, mainline that shit, then sit around blowing bubbles from a pipe while your cronies cook up another gun of meth for you, and you sit in front of the typewriter writing everything bit of rambling vitriol you can come up with off the top of your head (and with your malformed and incomplete education).

the meth will make you feel like you are a demigod. it's not real. but that's the mindset that brought about the worst war in human history.

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 1:47 am**

Look!

Hitler after 10 years of Meth addiction:

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 3:45 am**

reminisco wrote:i had to read it for a class in college.

it's pretty fucking stupid.

and he wrote it all hopped up on amphets. like Kerouac with On The Road. and yup, that one was completely self-indulgent, rambly and fucking stupid too.

hooray. hitler was a meth-head douche bag who twisted the shit out of Hegel and hid behind the general public's misconceptions about eugenics and genetics.

don't waste your time reading the book. if you really wanna understand, go cook up some meth, mainline that shit, then sit around blowing bubbles from a pipe while your cronies cook up another gun of meth for you, and you sit in front of the typewriter writing everything bit of rambling vitriol you can come up with off the top of your head (and with your malformed and incomplete education).

the meth will make you feel like you are a demigod. it's not real. but that's the mindset that brought about the worst war in human history.

You're full of shit, you never read Mein Kampf. Also, unless the German prison system offered amphetimines to the prisoners he was totaly sober when the book was written. Hitler's drug use came much later, strange that your professor didn't mention this...

I have the book and couldn't get through the whole thign. Hitler dicusses history, anti semitism, politics, and his own philosophical view of the world in no particular order. In essence it's a giant rant which would have been lost by now had Hitler not been such a major historical figure. In Mein Kampf, Hitler advocates that Aryans are the strongest race and that because of that they are entitled to do whatever the wants. He seems to advocate that survival of the fittest should be applied to the different races of man and that the Germans would benifite from this. He also dicusses at length the threat of jews and how they are slowly diluding superior german genes.

If you really want to understand how Hitler thought Mein Kampf is the book to read but there is an inherint danger that you may find yourself agreeing with some of his ideas. I had a conversation with a friend earlier this week about reading the non racial parts of the book in a public place, not telling people what it was, and how interesting it would be to see peoples reactions. Maybe you should do that for your next YouTube video Gip!!

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 6:16 am**

Its essential reading.
Which means I have read most of it, but not all of it

Some if it is good, reasoned stuff, about the history of Germany - but the majority of it is pretty frightening. Churchill considered it (in the 1930s) "the most important book in the world". Although it is far too easy to mock the appeasers, one does think after reading Kampf- "WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING OF"! Because Hitler makes no secret of his ambitions for European domination, and the solution to the "Jewish Question".

A Good Hitler quote (which he stole off someone else, but i think he is now credited for it)

"It is the winners who write the History books"./ "The victor will never be asked if he told the truth".

Hes a very quotable chap, up there with Churchill - they both loved oratory and extreme juxtapostions. Google him!

"I said "war", and Chamberlain trembled..."

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 6:21 am**

So, I googled Hitler.

"If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed".

Twildo is a man really. Repeat after me...

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 6:23 am**

"What good fortune for governments that the people do not think."

ps wheres Norse these days?

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 6:49 am**

reminisco wrote:i had to read it for a class in college.

it's pretty fucking stupid.

and he wrote it all hopped up on amphets. like Kerouac with On The Road. and yup, that one was completely self-indulgent, rambly and fucking stupid too.

hooray. hitler was a meth-head douche bag who twisted the shit out of Hegel and hid behind the general public's misconceptions about eugenics and genetics.

don't waste your time reading the book. if you really wanna understand, go cook up some meth, mainline that shit, then sit around blowing bubbles from a pipe while your cronies cook up another gun of meth for you, and you sit in front of the typewriter writing everything bit of rambling vitriol you can come up with off the top of your head (and with your malformed and incomplete education).

the meth will make you feel like you are a demigod. it's not real. but that's the mindset that brought about the worst war in human history.

You clearly haven't read mein kampf.

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 8:32 am**

when hitler was in prison, he was living in what was basically club med. he and his buddies would hang around smoking cigarettes and lounging on couches provided to them, hitler ranting and getting high on the amphets, and some of his cronies taking down his dictation for the book.

and yes, i have read it. and it is pretty fucking stupid.

the best lies are 90% true. so Hitler includes just enough truth to give his shit 'truthiness', but it is all used to support despicable lies.

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 9:06 am**

DaGip is scared by Hitler's words...he must read a book in juxtaposition to Hitler's thoughts!

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 2:51 pm**

DaGip wrote:I never hear any Hitler quotations? Does anybody know any? Has anyone read Mein Kampf?

I started reading Mein Kampf. Then I got to about page 10 and my Jewish girlfriend found out I was beginning to read Mein Kampf and she really hated me for it, so I never finished reading it. I stopped reading it right there and then and immediately returned the book to the library.

Am I really missing out on anything in particular from not reading Hitler's How To Start A Holocaust manual?

Winston Churchill said it best ... he who ignores history is doomed to repeat it.

You should read this, and study others with whom you disagree, both so you can be sure you really DO disagree, and to better learn how to avoid their mistakes in the future.

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 3:06 pm**

Hmm, a very different take than Reminisco's "it's stupid and nobody should ever read it" stance..

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 10:22 pm**

GabonX wrote:Hmm, a very different take than Reminisco's "it's stupid and nobody should ever read it" stance..

misquoting me.

i didn't say nobody should ever read it. i said DaGip shouldnt' waste his time.

it's a dangerous book in the hands of idiots, and it's a chore of self-indulgence to the intelligent. it's designed to manipulate people who haven't read the sources upon which Hitler lifts and twists to justify his pernicious lies (or to manipulate those who want to be manipulated). it's designed to make the reader angry and full of pride... esprit de corps, so to speak, of being an Aryan.

i read it as part of a course investigating the roots of fascism from a philosophical, political, and economic background. reading Mein Kampf was part of that -- looking at how Hitler manipulated a nation...

ultimately, however, Mein Kampf is, as i said, pretty fucking stupid. as Hitler's example well shows, he didn't really succeed, in the first place, and his philosophy was so clearly evil that one shouldn't replicate it or support it. honestly, i felt a little bit dirty having read the book, but it certainly helped me learn how to pick the truth out from the lies, especially when the lie is 90% true. it's finding that twist, that self-serving justification, that failure of universal moral law that allows the reader to see how truly fucking stupid hitler's book is.

there are many philosophies that deny the universal moral law, but Hitler mentions none of them. in fact, he tries to cloak himself in the justification of righteousness -- which is what nearly all evil men do. since he has to justify his actions in the first place, it leads him to convince himself, and of course others, that what he proposes and what he does is a good, morally upright action.

Posted: **Sun May 18, 2008 11:43 pm**

I was going to cleverly edit previous posts and put my argument about reading original texts.

Instead, I am going to ask, how many of you own a copy of Malleus Malleficarum, or know what it is?

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2008 12:48 am**

it's a dangerous book in the hands of idiots

The infamous manifesto penned in prison during the 1920s by one of history's greatest despots has become a bestseller in Turkey, a troubling sign of increasing anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=44727

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2008 10:15 pm**

DaGip wrote: Then I got to about page 10 and my Jewish girlfriend found out I was beginning to read Mein Kampf and she really hated me for it, so I never finished reading it.

Man, your girlfriend is a real jerk. So your reading an important historical source of an interesting era of history, and your GF gets pissed off because it was written by Adolf Hitler? By that logic, she would never ride the autobahn in Germany, drive a VW car, fly Lufthansa, or even visit Munich because of its association with the beerhalls. Or even get her picture taken next to the Eiffel Tower because Hitler did it.

Maybe its time to get a new GF... one less bitchy.

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