Conquer Club

I personally dislike the BBC, and everything that it stands for.

The "British Broadcasting Corporation", funded by the unpopular "Televesion licence" within the UK has an unfair, anti-competitive, government consensus message throughout all of it's poor, low quality broadcasts.

Funded solely by the television licence fee (about 120 Quid per household per year), one could see it not only as a "soviet style" government agenda spewing think-tank, but also as an extra enforced "tax burden" upon the British public.

Everything it represents is unfair and against all market principles. The disturbing ties between political leaders in the past and BBC cheif-directors has been concerning, and the actual programme content is of an absolutely shite quality, aiding a dumbed down britain, little imagination or intellectual relevance.

But what really annoys me, is that you fuckers sit there, absorbing their governmental consensus, politically motivated correctness, socialist mentality and contempt for anything "British".

How do you get away without paying for this TV licence??

The official rules state "if you have an aerial attached to a television, it is mandatory for you to pay the licence fee"

Now, this is not neccassarily correct.

If, like me, you do not want to have this enforced tax bill thrust upon you, funding their shite quality programming and radio broadcasts, simply untune any BBC channels from your analogue or digital reciever, and notify BBC of you doing this. If you subscribe to cable or satelite, you can also request your service provider to block these channels to your set-top boxes.

This will leave you TV licence exempt.


Now, we can start the revoloution...which of you fucking greasy internet monkies are with me?

i seldom watch the news on television, but when i do, i almost exclusively watch the BBC World News, either on BBC America or on PBS.

it gives me more information about more topics and more areas of the world than anything coming from American television news, and in the same amount of time.

so, as an outsider, i appreciate the BBC for that. and some of the television i've seen come from the BBC has been very good (all 3 of the House of Cards series, or The Office, for example -- also Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy and Smiley's People all of which i've bought on DVD.)

as for the price you're paying, that's equivalent to 240 American dollars, i think. so about 20 bucks a month, right? that's cheaper than cable is here, but that's just a tax to keep the BBC in operation, n'est pas? if that's case, you're right about it being unjust.

however, PBS and NPR are both publicly supported here in the USA, which means our tax dollars go to underwriting their programming.

reminisco wrote:
as for the price you're paying, that's equivalent to 240 American dollars, i think. so about 20 bucks a month, right? that's cheaper than cable is here, but that's just a tax to keep the BBC in operation, n'est pas? if that's case, you're right about it being unjust.

Yes, the BBC is funded solely by this licence fee, except for the whole embarrasing (and illegal, treachourous) incident where the EU pumped a great deal into this supposed "unbiased" broadcaster, which funnily enough seems to have a pro-EU agenda nowadays...

http://www.tpuc.org/stoppayingtvlicencefees

But of course, if one wanted to subscribe to cable or sky, an additional cost would be paid for on top of this.

however, PBS and NPR are both publicly supported here in the USA, which means our tax dollars go to underwriting their programming.

Oooh...seems like the land of the free has been dealt a nice dose of "media-immunity"..

Never knew that.

The British don't deserve television. Especially not unbiased television like the BBC.

I hereby decree that Fox News is the only channel that you dirty brits may watch!!!

Anarkistsdream wrote:The British don't deserve television. Especially not unbiased television like the BBC.

I hereby decree that Fox News is the only channel that you dirty brits may watch!!!

You're sexist against Brits!

You would fit in well with the BBC.

oh, and here in the states, at least among the intellectual elite, BBC's programming (such as those i mentioned purchasing on DVD) seems to rate alongside HBO's programming.

but of course, that's only with the programs that manage to get attention 3,000 miles from where they were produced -- almost certainly distilling out the shitty programs.

also, the public support for NPR and PBS is almost certainly costing each American household less than the 240 bucks it's costing for your support of the BBC. and of course, NPR and PBS subsist quite a bit off of donations, which are, naturally, tax deductible.

reminisco wrote:oh, and here in the states, at least among the intellectual elite, BBC's programming (such as those i mentioned purchasing on DVD) seems to rate alongside HBO's programming.

but of course, that's only with the programs that manage to get attention 3,000 miles from where they were produced -- almost certainly distilling out the shitty programs.

also, the public support for NPR and PBS is almost certainly costing each American household less than the 240 bucks it's costing for your support of the BBC. and of course, NPR and PBS subsist quite a bit off of donations, which are, naturally, tax deductible.

Meh...you're opinons are invalidated by your opinions. I generally don't speak to people with poor taste.

Autotoad wrote:Meh...you're opinons are invalidated by your opinions. I generally don't speak to people with poor taste.

you didn't like Tinker Tailor, or House of Cards?

i thought they were faithful to the novels, and very proficiently produced. oh well. there's simply no pleasing some people.

also, AD raises a good point... Fox News -- a privately owned and funded corporation, is more a propaganda mouthpiece for the gov't than NPR or PBS are.

in fact, NPR is more often critical of the gov't than any of the privately owned media outlets over here. more than likely due to our silly preoccupation with free speech than anything else.

reminisco wrote:oh, and here in the states, at least among the intellectual elite, BBC's programming (such as those i mentioned purchasing on DVD) seems to rate alongside HBO's programming.

but of course, that's only with the programs that manage to get attention 3,000 miles from where they were produced -- almost certainly distilling out the shitty programs.

also, the public support for NPR and PBS is almost certainly costing each American household less than the 240 bucks it's costing for your support of the BBC. and of course, NPR and PBS subsist quite a bit off of donations, which are, naturally, tax deductible.

I saw on The News Hour a couple of months ago that the amount of public funding NPR and PBS combined receive is equal to about $1 per U.S. American.

Though, I would say that in general BBC offers much higher quality programming than NPR and PBS.

btownmeggy wrote:I saw on The News Hour a couple of months ago that the amount of public funding NPR and PBS combined receive is equal to about $1 per U.S. American.

Though, I would say that in general BBC offers much higher quality programming than NPR and PBS.

oh yeah, The News Hour is really good. i watch that too actually, but less frequently than BBC World News (which is pretty infrequent -- i generally prefer to read the news)

Jim Lehrer is awesome. he was actually our speaker at my commencement, when i graduated from college so very, very long ago.

and his novels aren't half bad either. pick one up if you ever feel so inspired.

sorry but I like Top Gear it gives an accurate and sorry to say this entertaining view on cars.

McGrod wrote:sorry but I like Top Gear it gives an accurate and sorry to say this entertaining view on cars.

I'm a fan of Top Gun, personally.

So you are just now waking up to the fact that your gvenrment has been moving smoothly tword a Stalinist style of government? Just get out of the pub after a year or ten bender there dude? Face it kiddo you live in a socialist republic and have for many years... I would say paying for tripe on a tele is the least of your worries.

oh, and by the way, 90% of American television is tripe too.

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Jesus...I even gave you bloody pilgrim-fathers a bloody option, so as to massage your bleeding ego's, but you just aren't satisfied, are you? Nothing is enough to satisfy your lard-arsed greed...YOU'RE TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL!!

i wasn't attempting to make it all about America, i was drawing parallels to try and draw out how i could empathize with your situation.

since i'm not in Britain, and not subjected to your BBC tax, the best i can do is draw parallels between your situation and my own.

so, simma.

also, you never answered my question... do you seriously hate EVERYTHING on television that the BBC produces? or are you just being ornery?

and honestly, we'd all be a hell of a lot better off if we just took a cue from Chuck Palahniuk. he hasn't had a TV since 1992.

anyway, i'll stay away from this thread now. clearly you brits don't want anyone commenting on or trying to understand your culture, even though you're all experts on ours.

I'll be totally honest, I watch about 3 hours of TV per week. Before I left my parents house at age 18, I watched a great deal more TV, and plunged into a different situation where I didn't have nor want a TV. Since then, I had grown "less reliant" upon it for my entertainment. Now, being a libertine and mastermind, I can see through the agenda-pushing and subliminal messages that even the higher bracket of intellectual indivduals would miss, and I find that on the BBC, with every TV programme advertised, every drama scene, every environmental documentary shown, there is a sickening level of politicised garbage being pushed upon the vulnerable of mind.

Global warming!
Terrorism!
Racism!
Teh Capitalists!
Carbon footprint!
Middle east!
Iraq!
China!
George Bush!

Same phucking shit every time.

See, what you must realise, is that the BBC has no competition to deal with, they can spew whatever they like, safe in the comfort that they will get their licence fee's every year, thus not providing the people with what they actually want to see, but rather what the BBC wants to show them. If thwey were a commercial broadcaster, I can gaurentee to you now that a great deal less people would be interested in watching their poor programming, and that they would eventually have to take into account the wants of the public, so as to raise their commercial value.

What grates at me, is that the public are forced to pay for their own impending government message....and that just aint cricket.

Autotoad wrote:I'll be totally honest, I watch about 3 hours of TV per week. Before I left my parents house at age 18, I watched a great deal more TV, and plunged into a different situation where I didn't have nor want a TV. Since then, I had grown "less reliant" upon it for my entertainment. Now, being a libertine and mastermind, I can see through the agenda-pushing and subliminal messages that even the higher bracket of intellectual indivduals would miss, and I find that on the BBC, with every TV programme advertised, every drama scene, every environmental documentary shown, there is a sickening level of politicised garbage being pushed upon the vulnerable of mind.

Global warming!
Terrorism!
Racism!
Teh Capitalists!
Carbon footprint!
Middle east!
Iraq!
China!
George Bush!

Same phucking shit every time.

See, what you must realise, is that the BBC has no competition to deal with, they can spew whatever they like, safe in the comfort that they will get their licence fee's every year, thus not providing the people with what they actually want to see, but rather what the BBC wants to show them. If thwey were a commercial broadcaster, I can gaurentee to you now that a great deal less people would be interested in watching their poor programming, and that they would eventually have to take into account the wants of the public, so as to raise their commercial value.

What grates at me, is that the public are forced to pay for their own impending government message....and that just aint cricket.

IJust think...we won't have to put up with that nasal, whining voice of their Scumthorpe correspondant detailing the latest dowturn in the life of poor immigrant Ahmed, or the intricate workings of Upper Baconsbury's local Green Party MP's newest solar panel.

There really is an easy answer to these problems.

Autotoad wrote:You're sexist against Brits

I'm racist against animals

CoffeeCream wrote:

Autotoad wrote:You're sexist against Brits

I'm racist against animals

I wont lie there are a group of people out there who do consider specieism as legitamate as some of the other isms. Now i suppose there are a lot of things that could be said about that in general, but it is staggering when you consider how many things have to die so the majority of people can eat their typical diet.

Also i apparently cant stop replying to your posts CC.

CoffeeCream wrote:

Autotoad wrote:You're sexist against Brits

I'm racist against animals

I bet you I am more ageist against black paople than you.

Personally I think the tv license is too steep. Eastenders is rubbish (bring back johnny allen!) ...neighbours will never be as good as it once was. And the News well I happen to like the news ...although would like the service to be about everywhere and give stories that are not mainstream worldwide.
Its good to have a channel not tied into products as we see in top gear = honest opinions (even if it is getting a bit obviously staged the stuff they get up to). I would like to see some controversy on the BBC as channel four has not got that bite anymore. I think we should have the BBC....who hasn't worked alongside a David Brent or the crazed TA SAS wannabe?

got tonkaed wrote:

CoffeeCream wrote:I'm racist against animals

Also i apparently cant stop replying to your posts CC.

Oh! Tonky! I'm so happy for you. I knew that one day you would find "the one".