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A naive hope this is not against rules, but...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:16 pm
by Semigall
...i just wanted to advertise my cousin's new website a bit :)

http://www.thefabulouspet.com/

The website is for pet owners. You write your pet diaries, upload your pets photos, comment & rate other owner pet diary entries and photos and so on :)

The site is really new, so there's not many users yet, but everything's working fine :)

Bug reports, suggestions welcomed (but in the site, not here, plz).



P.S. I really hope i have not breaked any rules with this discussion. Just helpin' my pal to start off his site for good :)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:24 pm
by unriggable
Nice website. One problem though:

Pet diaries? How bored are some people these days...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:32 pm
by InkL0sed
Why would it be against the rules? You should see some of the things people post here...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:36 pm
by wcaclimbing
Well, joining only to advertise another site IS against the rules, but since you have been around and played some games, im guessing that it is fine.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:38 pm
by Semigall
unriggable wrote:Pet diaries? How bored are some people these days...

Well, some people just like to take their hobbies to a new level :D

Oh, and about the site i have good news - many bugs have been fixed, some new small features added and as always - new users are very welcomed :)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:39 pm
by wicked
Why don't the pets write their own diaries?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:39 pm
by got tonkaed
wicked wrote:Why don't the pets write their own diaries?


we have yet to get a good translation system that is cheap and effective.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:14 am
by Geoff_with_a_G
i'd write my pussycat's diary for her, she's my best non-human friend, but i have no idea what she does during the day when i'm not here and she never tells me... :idea: i suppose i could install cameras

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:16 am
by heavycola
wicked wrote:Why don't the pets write their own diaries?


Many pets lack opposable thumbs :(

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:52 am
by MeDeFe
heavycola wrote:
wicked wrote:Why don't the pets write their own diaries?

Many pets lack opposable thumbs :(

Ever heard of the "two fingers search system"? You don't need thumbs for that.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:57 am
by Geoff_with_a_G
wicked wrote:Why don't the pets write their own diaries?


because...ScienceDaily (May 22, 2002) — ITHACA, N.Y. -- After more than 5,000 years of human-feline cohabitation and enough elaborations on "meow!" to fill a dictionary, cats still haven't mastered language.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:06 am
by MeDeFe
geoff@xtra.co.nz wrote:
wicked wrote:Why don't the pets write their own diaries?

because...ScienceDaily (May 22, 2002) — ITHACA, N.Y. -- After more than 5,000 years of human-feline cohabitation and enough elaborations on "meow!" to fill a dictionary, cats still haven't mastered language.

I think it's the other way around, we haven't been able to learn to recognize and understand the fine distinctions between different meows and we lack a system of symbols that can accurately represent these nuances. The result is that the cats believe us to be stupid by nature, which goes a long way to explain their behaviour towards us.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:07 am
by Geoff_with_a_G
heavycola wrote:
wicked wrote:Why don't the pets write their own diaries?


Many pets lack opposable thumbs :(


why are you so sad about that?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:12 am
by Geoff_with_a_G
MeDeFe wrote:
geoff@xtra.co.nz wrote:
wicked wrote:Why don't the pets write their own diaries?

because...ScienceDaily (May 22, 2002) — ITHACA, N.Y. -- After more than 5,000 years of human-feline cohabitation and enough elaborations on "meow!" to fill a dictionary, cats still haven't mastered language.

I think it's the other way around, we haven't been able to learn to recognize and understand the fine distinctions between different meows and we lack a system of symbols that can accurately represent these nuances. The result is that the cats believe us to be stupid by nature, which goes a long way to explain their behaviour towards us.


you're so right...the article goes on to say...at the 143rd meeting of the Acoustical Society of America, in Pittsburgh, "shows that some very effective cat-to-human communication is going on," he says. "Though they lack language, cats have become very skilled at managing humans to get what they want ---- basically food, shelter and a little human affection." He played back the recorded cat calls to 26 human volunteers and asked them to rate each sound for pleasantness and appeal, on a scale of 1 to 7. Nicastro played the same 100 sounds to a second set of 28 volunteers and asked them to indicate how urgent and demanding the sounds were, also on a 1-to-7 scale. He then analyzed the calls to see which acoustic features tended to go with pleasant or urgent meows.

Nicastro, who is a student in the laboratory of Cornell psychology assistant professor Michael Owren, found a clear negative relationship between pleasantness and urgency, rooted in how the calls sounded. "The sounds rated as more urgent (or less pleasant) were longer,". Nicastro says, "with more energy in the lower frequencies, along the lines of 'Mee-O-O-O-O-O-W!' Whereas, the sounds rated as more pleasant (or less demanding) tended to be shorter, with the energy spread evenly through the high and low frequencies. These sounds started high and went low, like 'MEE-ow.'"

"I was interested in learning how humans have shaped cat vocal behavior by artificial selection, and how cats have evolved to exploit pre-existing human perceptual tendencies.

"Cats are domesticated animals that have learned what levers to push, what sounds to make to manage our emotions," Nicastro says. "And when we respond, we too are domesticated animals."

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:17 am
by Geoff_with_a_G
geoff@xtra.co.nz wrote:
heavycola wrote:
wicked wrote:Why don't the pets write their own diaries?


Many pets lack opposable thumbs :(


why are you so sad about that?


if i came home from a hard day at work, and the bus had been late both on the way to work and the way home, and i found out that i was going to have to work that weekend, and i came home and found my cat sitting on the couch all hoity-toity and la-di-dah, sitting there using its opposable thumb to smoke one of my cigarettes, there'd be hell to pay

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:37 am
by Semigall
geoff@xtra.co.nz wrote:i'd write my pussycat's diary for her, she's my best non-human friend, but i have no idea what she does during the day when i'm not here and she never tells me... :idea: i suppose i could install cameras

Good idea :)

Actually i have heard there are people, who watch over their pets via webcams 'n' stuff, so it's just another modern way how to solve simple problems :)

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:00 am
by heavycola
geoff@xtra.co.nz wrote:
heavycola wrote:
wicked wrote:Why don't the pets write their own diaries?


Many pets lack opposable thumbs :(


why are you so sad about that?


How are they supposed to operate a can opener? Let alone hold a pen. I guess they could type on a keyboard big enough to accommodate their paws.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:32 am
by MeDeFe
heavycola wrote:
geoff@xtra.co.nz wrote:
heavycola wrote:
wicked wrote:Why don't the pets write their own diaries?

Many pets lack opposable thumbs :(

why are you so sad about that?

How are they supposed to operate a can opener? Let alone hold a pen. I guess they could type on a keyboard big enough to accommodate their paws.

Two fingers search system, no thumbs needed, I know I already mentioned it, at a pinch claws will work as well.