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Gay Adoption

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:11 pm
by Napoleon Ier
Answer the question, and post as to why you answered as you did.

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:12 pm
by got tonkaed
posted yes they should have the same rights....i think ive flushed out most of my rationale behind why i believe so by now.

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:13 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Persoanlly, I believe that a child should have both the mother and father. But that's just me.

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:16 pm
by dacey
How about a "Yes, but heterosexual is preferred" option?

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:20 pm
by Napoleon Ier
dacey wrote:How about a "Yes, but heterosexual is preferred" option?
I delibarated, but thought a clear poll like this was better. The second option does imply you think that there are some circumstances in which they should i.e when no other parents are available.

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:22 pm
by Simonov
NO! children have rights too.

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:25 pm
by Napoleon Ier
Simonov wrote:NO! children have rights too.
Quoted.
For.
Truth.
Children are not toys of politically correct media and of gays!

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:25 pm
by Snorri1234
No ofcourse not! I don't want them to spread the GAY to our children.

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:27 pm
by DaGip
Mother=Woman, Father=Man...two Fathers cannot have children by design, and neither can two Mothers...it seems like a natural law to me, but when has humanity ever thought they were subject to natural law?
I would say the natural choice would be a mother, father relationship...but if that is not available, then I guess a homo couple is better than nothing!

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:27 pm
by Napoleon Ier
Snorri1234 wrote:No ofcourse not! I don't want them to spread the GAY to our children.
The cynicism...its burning my screen!

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:27 pm
by flashleg8
Simonov wrote:NO! children have rights too.
WTF?! What right means you can't be adopted by a couple that are prepared to love you?
Anyone should be allowed to adopt - as long as they are proved to be fit for the responsibility. Any age, race, sexuality, marriage status.

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:30 pm
by jiminski
I think it's perfectly acceptable and would adopt a lesbian tomorrow!

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:32 pm
by Napoleon Ier
flashleg8 wrote:Simonov wrote:NO! children have rights too.
WTF?! What right means you can't be adopted by a couple that are prepared to love you?
Anyone should be allowed to adopt - as long as they are proved to be fit for the responsibility. Any
age, race,
sexuality,
marriage status.
A three year old cannot adopt a ten year old.
A pedophile cannot adopt.
A single person cannot adopt.
A gay is unfit for the responsibility, and cannot adopt.

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:54 pm
by heavycola
Napoleon Ier wrote:A gay is unfit for the responsibility, and cannot adopt.

go on then, explain why a gay
couple is unfit for the responsibility

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:57 pm
by Napoleon Ier
heavycola wrote:Napoleon Ier wrote:A gay is unfit for the responsibility, and cannot adopt.

go on then, explain why a gay
couple is unfit for the responsibility
As I've said, I hink it is clear that huge impact will be had on a child's development if he is raised bu gays. This is unnatural, and the effect will e negative. Simply because gays want rights doesnt mean they should be allowed to trample the fundamental rights of others : namely a child to have a father and a mother

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:57 pm
by got tonkaed
Napoleon Ier wrote:heavycola wrote:Napoleon Ier wrote:A gay is unfit for the responsibility, and cannot adopt.

go on then, explain why a gay
couple is unfit for the responsibility
As I've said, I hink it is clear that huge impact will be had on a child's development if he is raised bu gays. This is unnatural, and the effect will e negative. Simply because gays want rights doesnt mean they should be allowed to trample the fundamental rights of others : namely a child to have a father and a mother
thus far there has been no conclusive evidence to prove that charge is true napoleon.

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:00 pm
by Risktaker17
Who am I to take away the right of someone else.

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:01 pm
by Napoleon Ier
got tonkaed wrote:Napoleon Ier wrote:heavycola wrote:Napoleon Ier wrote:A gay is unfit for the responsibility, and cannot adopt.

go on then, explain why a gay
couple is unfit for the responsibility
As I've said, I hink it is clear that huge impact will be had on a child's development if he is raised bu gays. This is unnatural, and the effect will e negative. Simply because gays want rights doesnt mean they should be allowed to trample the fundamental rights of others : namely a child to have a father and a mother
thus far there has been no conclusive evidence to prove that charge is true napoleon.
But just think about it.
At every stage from being primates on we were raised by a mother and a father. Psychology tells us both play an essential role in our growing up.
You can't just say, ah, no studies to the contrary (obviously, since you can't exactly get your samples this early in the stage of this debate), so lets just allow gays to adopt.Its ridiculous.

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:01 pm
by diddle
I have no opinion. I am a personality-less prawn.

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:03 pm
by Heimdall
I wish a couple of hot lesbians would adopt me.

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:03 pm
by got tonkaed
no but you can look at similar studies and say well what are they telling us.
In many cases studies on divorced homes (which although not the same thing by any stretch, is a non "traditional" sort of, set of family circumstances)
many of those studies we are finding now are suggesting that those kids are no less properly adjusted for life than kids who come from normal circumstances. Why is this so? Because the parent that remains, or the two parents in concert provide the proper support for the kids, which is the most important thing for a childs development.
To put it in forumla
Parental support + children aging = probably a well adjusted child
Lack of parental support + children aging = a higher likelyhood of less adjusted children.
You can get parent support from two parents of the same sex, certainly if you can get it from one parent.

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:04 pm
by Napoleon Ier
Heimdall wrote:I wish a couple of hot lesbians would adopt me.


Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:04 pm
by heavycola
Napoleon Ier wrote:heavycola wrote:Napoleon Ier wrote:A gay is unfit for the responsibility, and cannot adopt.

go on then, explain why a gay
couple is unfit for the responsibility
As I've said, I hink it is clear that huge impact will be had on a child's development if he is raised bu gays. This is unnatural, and the effect will e negative. Simply because gays want rights doesnt mean they should be allowed to trample the fundamental rights of others : namely a child to have a father and a mother
unnatural?
The biologst Bruce Baghemil produced research in 1999 that found evidence of homosexual activity in over 1,500 species, from gut worms to primates. The number of species that shave or drive cars, on the other hand, is one.
What do you mean by unnatural?

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:10 pm
by Napoleon Ier
got tonkaed wrote:no but you can look at similar studies and say well what are they telling us.
In many cases studies on divorced homes (which although not the same thing by any stretch, is a non "traditional" sort of, set of family circumstances)
many of those studies we are finding now are suggesting that those kids are no less properly adjusted for life than kids who come from normal circumstances. Why is this so? Because the parent that remains, or the two parents in concert provide the proper support for the kids, which is the most important thing for a childs development.
To put it in forumla
Parental support + children aging = probably a well adjusted child
Lack of parental support + children aging = a higher likelyhood of less adjusted children.
You can get parent support from two parents of the same sex, certainly if you can get it from one parent.
???
Divorce has been proven to significantly damage children
Besides, the point is that two parents of different sex are what is best. No one can contend with that. And it is unnatural for gays to raise a child, heavycola.

Posted:
Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:12 pm
by got tonkaed
no the more recent literature has suggested its not the divorce that maladjusts children its the lack of parental support, which although often occurs in divorced situations, certainly is not found solely there.
And your premise that matters to the debate has no evidence behind it, you cannot keep advancing it as if it was truth, without a smidiging of actual evidence, besides how youve been socialized to think.