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English lady jailed for calling a teddy bear " mohamed&

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:50 pm
by graeme89
What do muslems on thiis website think about this

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:51 pm
by graeme89
I apologise for my mispelling

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:52 pm
by Anarkistsdream
Neither the title of the post nor your question make any sense, mate.

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:53 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Some random lady was arrested for calling a stuffed bear Mohammed, Islam's main prophet.

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:57 pm
by Anarkistsdream
muy_thaiguy wrote:Some random lady was arrested for calling a stuffed bear Mohammed, Islam's main prophet.
Ah! I see...
So why would anyone care if she did that? What makes that story interesting?

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:00 pm
by Guiscard
Anarkistsdream wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:Some random lady was arrested for calling a stuffed bear Mohammed, Islam's main prophet.
Ah! I see...
So why would anyone care if she did that? What makes that story interesting?
She was a teacher in a school in Sudan. She let her class name the bear. Apparently it broke their laws about blasphemy. To be fair, it is a harsh punishment for something not meant with any malicious intent, but she was perhaps a little naive in deciding to name the bear Muhammad in the first place.

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:05 pm
by The1exile
Sure, Sudan's laws might be archaic and/or stupid. But if you go to a country, you abide by their laws, or face the punishment.
There may be extenuating circumstances, but seeing most of the bullshit tabloid headlines, I'll wait a few months before looking it up.

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:09 pm
by graeme89
I just think its religious extremism going bsck to the medieaval times , the British Gvt should pull out all stops to have the woman returned. Teddy bears for God's sake.

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:10 pm
by Guiscard
The1exile wrote:Sure, Sudan's laws might be archaic and/or stupid. But if you go to a country, you abide by their laws, or face the punishment.
There may be extenuating circumstances, but seeing most of the bullshit tabloid headlines, I'll wait a few months before looking it up.
Indeed. The red tops have a field day when they can throw in the fact that 'muhammad is the most popular name for new born baby boys in Britain today.'

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:14 pm
by life-saver
I believe this is right, the class voted on the bear to be called Mohammed. And that the most popular boy (maybe popular name...) was named Mohammed.


Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:16 pm
by Guiscard
life-saver wrote:I believe this is right, the class voted on the bear to be called Mohammed. And that the most popular boy (maybe popular name...) was named Mohammed.

Yep. And in the UK the class could vote to call it 'Child Fucker Pedo King' but it would still be illegal here...
Not saying its a law that I especially agree with, but it is one that she broke. As a teacher she is responsible for what happens in her class.
I think what actually happened was that the boy won the competition to name the bear and named it after himself.

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:18 pm
by Dancing Mustard
*Sigh*
I miss Norse.
This thread would be more fun with him around...
*Sigh*

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:19 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Dancing Mustard wrote:*Sigh*
I miss Norse.
This thread would be more fun with him around...
*Sigh*
QFT.


Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:20 pm
by got tonkaed
the thing that strikes me is that, for someone coming from a country which is part of a political correctness movement (a western nation essentially) to go to a nation where political correctness may not be such a contested issue, and still make such a silly cultural snafu, seems almost absurd to me.

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:20 pm
by graeme89
Dancing Mustard wrote:*Sigh*
I miss Norse.
This thread would be more fun with him around...
*Sigh*
Oh cant u give you're own opinion

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:21 pm
by Dancing Mustard
graeme89 wrote:Dancing Mustard wrote:*Sigh*
I miss Norse.
This thread would be more fun with him around...
*Sigh*
Oh cant u give you're own opinion
Sorry, the German sub-forum is several pages down from here.
Now let me grieve in peace...
PS. My own opinion is that you are an assface

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:26 pm
by graeme89
Guiscard wrote:life-saver wrote:I believe this is right, the class voted on the bear to be called Mohammed. And that the most popular boy (maybe popular name...) was named Mohammed.

Yep. And in the UK the class could vote to call it 'Child Fucker Pedo King' but it would still be illegal here...
Not saying its a law that I especially agree with, but it is one that she broke. As a teacher she is responsible for what happens in her class.
I think what actually happened was that the boy won the competition to name the bear and named it after himself.
evout
I think it was an innocent mistake and not an insult against Islam. And what about the childrens parents ' the devout islamists whonever violate the laws of Islam but enforce it on foreignors ???
No way

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:27 pm
by The1exile
graeme89:
Firefox has a built in spellchecker.
http://www.getfirefox.com
go. quick.

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:48 pm
by graeme89
Ok but i would rather have a cup of tea and a digestive

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:04 pm
by khazalid
me/ jihad on u
thats right

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:05 pm
by Guiscard
graeme89 wrote:Guiscard wrote:life-saver wrote:I believe this is right, the class voted on the bear to be called Mohammed. And that the most popular boy (maybe popular name...) was named Mohammed.

Yep. And in the UK the class could vote to call it 'Child Fucker Pedo King' but it would still be illegal here...
Not saying its a law that I especially agree with, but it is one that she broke. As a teacher she is responsible for what happens in her class.
I think what actually happened was that the boy won the competition to name the bear and named it after himself.
evout
I think it was an innocent mistake and not an insult against Islam. And what about the childrens parents ' the devout islamists whonever violate the laws of Islam but enforce it on foreignors ???
No way
An innocent mistake can still be considered a crime. As I've said before, it may seem barbaric (it certainly does to me) but she is living in another country and must abide by their laws. Whether or not you think it was a genuine 'insult' is by the by. She broke the law.

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:07 pm
by Anarkistsdream
Well now that I know the situation, I must agree with Guis and Exile...
You are a teacher... You are there to teach the kids laws and education.
If you know that naming a bear Mohammed will get you arrested, what exactly are you teaching those kids? That you are an idiot?
So, is anyone aware of what sort of punishment she could face?

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:09 pm
by RobinJ
I thought it was very harsh to imprison here for such a menial "crime". On the other hand, it was silly on her part to let the bear be called Mohammed. We all know how zealous the Muslims are. Remember the time a British newspaper made cartoons about him and there was hell to pay?

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:16 pm
by Guiscard
Anarkistsdream wrote:Well now that I know the situation, I must agree with Guis and Exile...
You are a teacher... You are there to teach the kids laws and education.
If you know that naming a bear Mohammed will get you arrested, what exactly are you teaching those kids? That you are an idiot?
So, is anyone aware of what sort of punishment she could face?
Shes got 15 days in prison, I think... I think she may have had the choise of that, a fine or a flogging...

Posted:
Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:17 pm
by STUD24
The punishment will be 40 lashings or a few months jail yet to be decided.
However the funny thing is it was the children who named the bear muhammad not the teacher. She innocently went along with the name that the children gave it not knowing that it was offensive nor direspectful.
Even worse, I believe that if it were a male in her position none of this would have happened.