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Greatest General after Alexander the Great of Macedon?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:59 pm
by muy_thaiguy
I know there are some front runners, and I believe that Alexander has the number 1 spot, unless someone disagrees for some reason. But I want to hear from others on their views about this.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:00 pm
by 0ojakeo0
george washington hannibal....

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:00 pm
by soundout9
Julius Caeser and Jackson are close but i voted Julius Caeser

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:01 pm
by Chris7He
Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:02 pm
by b.k. barunt
Stonewall Jackson if he had commanded at Gettysburg, we would have won. Lee was a pussy.


Honibaz

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:03 pm
by soundout9
Chris7He wrote:Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.

And then died :lol: And BK makes a good point too.

But then agian julius died too.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:04 pm
by Bigfalcon65
Chris7He wrote:Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.


what about the persian king? he did quite a nice job

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:05 pm
by Strife
What retard put Caesar? And where is the Pompey option?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:05 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Chris7He wrote:Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.
Hitler? He was military FOOL! It was because of his ineptetude that the Eastern Front backfired so tremendously! The only thing he could do personally was give speeches.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:05 pm
by Chris7He
soundout9 wrote:
Chris7He wrote:Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.

And then died :lol:


Because he was shot by his own troops. Lee was a gentleman who didn't see things the way Jackson did. He could've taken Little Round Top early, but he didn't he also could have struck from the north.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:06 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Strife wrote:What retard put Caesar? And where is the Pompey option?
There is the "other" option in case I would forget people like Pompey. I put Caesar up there because he is often counted among the great leaders in military.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:07 pm
by b.k. barunt
Chris7He wrote:Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.

This post is simply seething with brilliance. I guess you're right - Alexander was not the greatest general. Damn, and all this time i thought he was. I never realized that Hannibal or Julius would have beat him up - thank you for pointing that out. * * slaps head * * It's a fooking epiphany!


Honibaz

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:07 pm
by soundout9
Chris7He wrote:
soundout9 wrote:
Chris7He wrote:Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.

And then died :lol:


Because he was shot by his own troops. Lee was a gentleman who didn't see things the way Jackson did. He could've taken Little Round Top early, but he didn't he also could have struck from the north.

BK is right though if stonewall had been commmander the south probably would have won the cival war and then 8-[ we might be communist.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:07 pm
by Bigfalcon65
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Chris7He wrote:Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.
Hitler? He was military FOOL! It was because of his ineptetude that the Eastern Front backfired so tremendously! The only thing he could do personally was give speeches.


he wasnt a military fool, you are foolish for overlooking a grand detail, something called the holocaust had he not fucked around with jews he wouldve had alot more man power and transportation instead of wasting money and effort of the jewish people.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:08 pm
by Strife
I meant who voted for him MTG. I voted fer Boneparte :D

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:08 pm
by Chris7He
b.k. barunt wrote:
Chris7He wrote:Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.

This post is simply seething with brilliance. I guess you're right - Alexander was not the greatest general. Damn, and all this time i thought he was. I never realized that Hannibal or Julius would have beat him up - thank you for pointing that out. * * slaps head * * It's a fooking epiphany!


Honibaz


You're not that bad out of flame wars.

Hannibal used superior calvary tactics and Julius used legionnaire formations that easily crushed the phalanx formation.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:09 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Bigfalcon65 wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Chris7He wrote:Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.
Hitler? He was military FOOL! It was because of his ineptetude that the Eastern Front backfired so tremendously! The only thing he could do personally was give speeches.


he wasnt a military fool, you are foolish for overlooking a grand detail, something called the holocaust had he not fucked around with jews he wouldve had alot more man power and transportation instead of wasting money and effort of the jewish people.
I dearly hope you are being sarcastic.

And my bad Strife.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:09 pm
by Bigfalcon65
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Bigfalcon65 wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Chris7He wrote:Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.
Hitler? He was military FOOL! It was because of his ineptetude that the Eastern Front backfired so tremendously! The only thing he could do personally was give speeches.


he wasnt a military fool, you are foolish for overlooking a grand detail, something called the holocaust had he not fucked around with jews he wouldve had alot more man power and transportation instead of wasting money and effort of the jewish people.
I dearly hope you are being sarcastic.

And my bad Strife.


are you a retard, thats half the reason why they lost, they spent soooo much on shit that wasnt the war

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:10 pm
by Chris7He
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Chris7He wrote:Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.
Hitler? He was military FOOL! It was because of his ineptetude that the Eastern Front backfired so tremendously! The only thing he could do personally was give speeches.


Hitler invented a little thing called the blitzkrieg. No. It wasn't Rommel. It was Hitler who had spent time in the Great War and won an Iron Cross. He simply wasted time killing Jews when he could've spent time fighting.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:12 pm
by got tonkaed
Chris7He wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Chris7He wrote:Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.
Hitler? He was military FOOL! It was because of his ineptetude that the Eastern Front backfired so tremendously! The only thing he could do personally was give speeches.


Hitler invented a little thing called the blitzkrieg. No. It wasn't Rommel. It was Hitler who had spent time in the Great War and won an Iron Cross. He simply wasted time killing Jews when he could've spent time fighting.


hitler had a pretty big problem in geopolitics. Its pretty hard for anyone to win a war in that situation with those people fighting against you...at the same time, he had not done some of the things in russia he did, he may have had a better chance.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:13 pm
by Bigfalcon65
got tonkaed wrote:
Chris7He wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Chris7He wrote:Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.
Hitler? He was military FOOL! It was because of his ineptetude that the Eastern Front backfired so tremendously! The only thing he could do personally was give speeches.


Hitler invented a little thing called the blitzkrieg. No. It wasn't Rommel. It was Hitler who had spent time in the Great War and won an Iron Cross. He simply wasted time killing Jews when he could've spent time fighting.


hitler had a pretty big problem in geopolitics. Its pretty hard for anyone to win a war in that situation with those people fighting against you...at the same time, he had not done some of the things in russia he did, he may have had a better chance.


that and, japan had to be a douchebag and bomb america so it wasnt all germany's fault that they got fucked over.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:13 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Bigfalcon65 wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Bigfalcon65 wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Chris7He wrote:Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.
Hitler? He was military FOOL! It was because of his ineptetude that the Eastern Front backfired so tremendously! The only thing he could do personally was give speeches.


he wasnt a military fool, you are foolish for overlooking a grand detail, something called the holocaust had he not fucked around with jews he wouldve had alot more man power and transportation instead of wasting money and effort of the jewish people.
I dearly hope you are being sarcastic.

And my bad Strife.


are you a retard, thats half the reason why they lost, they spent soooo much on shit that wasnt the war
Hence another reason why he was a fool. He concentrated manpower on death camps and concentration camps instead of the front lines.

And Chris, Alexander used superior cavalry, employed war elephants (great for rendering cavalry useless), and used a different form of the phalanx the what later people would use, one that was more flexible and effective.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:14 pm
by Bigfalcon65
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Bigfalcon65 wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Bigfalcon65 wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Chris7He wrote:Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.
Hitler? He was military FOOL! It was because of his ineptetude that the Eastern Front backfired so tremendously! The only thing he could do personally was give speeches.


he wasnt a military fool, you are foolish for overlooking a grand detail, something called the holocaust had he not fucked around with jews he wouldve had alot more man power and transportation instead of wasting money and effort of the jewish people.
I dearly hope you are being sarcastic.

And my bad Strife.


are you a retard, thats half the reason why they lost, they spent soooo much on shit that wasnt the war
Hence another reason why he was a fool. He concentrated manpower on death camps and concentration camps instead of the front lines.

And Chris, Alexander used superior cavalry, employed war elephants (great for rendering cavalry useless), and used a different form of the phalanx the what later people would use, one that was more flexible and effective.


he let his hatred consume him, doesnt mean he was a bad genral, means he was a bad leader.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:14 pm
by Chris7He
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Bigfalcon65 wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
Chris7He wrote:Alexander was not a great general. If he fought Hannibal or Julius, he would've been fucked. The true best tactician is Hitler or Genghis Khan. Stonewall Jackson was a hotheaded general who got the job done.
Hitler? He was military FOOL! It was because of his ineptetude that the Eastern Front backfired so tremendously! The only thing he could do personally was give speeches.


he wasnt a military fool, you are foolish for overlooking a grand detail, something called the holocaust had he not fucked around with jews he wouldve had alot more man power and transportation instead of wasting money and effort of the jewish people.
I dearly hope you are being sarcastic.

And my bad Strife.


His brilliance was prevalent up until he started taking various medications so that he looked like a TRUE 'aryan superman'. He then deterred from research into nuclear weapons, tanks, missiles, and jets.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:17 pm
by Norse
Where's the "ron paul" option?....

terrible, I actually like ron paul.